Brexit Vote

[Ithekro]

Well...

God save the Queen.

[Irenicus]

Originally Posted by Eisdrache

It's interesting to see that every single area in the north has voted for remain while the south is mostly for leave.

If you define the north as Scotland, yeah. But if you define the north as Northern England, they are the ones who buckled the polls the most -- Newcastle is the lone Remain outlier, and at a far smaller margin than expected.

I'd go on a limb here and consider this to be the start of the dissolution of the Union. Scotland will not forgive this, and if this is really shaping up to be a Black Friday (Asian markets are taking a heavy beating as I write), Sinn Fein will pull Northern Ireland towards reunification within five years, at most.

[KiraYamatoFan]

Originally Posted by Kakurin-san

I think this is quite short-sighted. The sharp north-south divide is dangerous for the future of the United Kingdom. Scotland as a bloc voted 62% remain. Northern Ireland is divided as always, but also features a 56% majority for remain. While Nicola Sturgeon isn't a gambler like Salmond and probably will only call for another independence vote if she has a stable and high majority in the polls it is a situation where a United Kingdom leaving the EU is basically doomed to perform well from the start. If things don't go well this vote yesterday could be the straw the broke apart the United Kingdom instead of making it great again.

Very much this.

As someone from a different forum wrote, this is one case where "those with lower intelligence have seismically changed the course of the country". Based on more information I gathered everywhere, it's an alliance of baby-boomers longing for past glory tainted with selfishness, and of uneducated idiots who made that mess a reality.

Originally Posted by Kakurin-san

HSBC and Standard Chartered lost up to 12.5% at the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

That didn't take long and that isn't going to stop any time soon.

[MeoTwister5]

You people are making it sound like the leave people are looking for the resurgence of the British Empire when it is probably more like the fractures will likely extend to the remnants of the UK likewise splitting apart.

[Newhope]

To be frank I don't personnal care if Scotland leave they have nothing of value and only a drain on Englands revenue, if they leave they'll have to cut their public spending by half.

And to be honest anybody who can't see that the EU has pretty much been imploding for years is blind, you have countries like Greece, Italy, Spain and portugal that in dire financial state you have some of the big German bank on the verge of collapse the EU is a frigging ticking time bomb.

[risingstar3110]

Originally Posted by Newhope

To be frank I don't personnal care if Scotland leave they have nothing of value and only a drain on Englands revenue, if they leave they'll have to cut public spending by half.

And to be honest anybody who can't see that the EU has pretty much been imploding for years is blind.

The problem is Brexit gonna accelerate it.

Damn, lots of uncertainty ahead. All negative too

[Solace]

EU was a good idea doomed by pride.

[Brother Coa]

Originally Posted by KiraYamatoFan

As someone from a different forum wrote, this is one case where "those with lower intelligence have seismically changed the course of the country". Based on more information I gathered everywhere, it's an alliance of baby-boomers longing for past glory tainted with selfishness, and of uneducated idiots who made that mess a reality.

Hate it if you must but remember - you live in democracy. And it is that democracy, that everyone cherish and defend to death, that enable UK to vote how it voted.
They may be 'uneducated','ignorant' and so on.... the point still remains - they are majority and they proved it. Minority in that case can only sit down and watch as they celebrate.

Isn't democracy great thing? Now we all need is for Trump to in US elections and this year will be recorded in history as "most interesting one".

[KiraYamatoFan]

Originally Posted by Newhope

And to be honest anybody who can't see that the EU has pretty much been imploding for years is blind.

One could have waited to see what the Germans do first in their upcoming election. They are in far deeper shit with the EU than Britain is.

All I see now is the GBP and British companies dropping value at the stock exchange. Furthermore, businesses have started moving their assets and headquarters out of Britain. Enjoy time in the wilderness if that's what you really want.

[MCAL]

Well with 99.5 percent of the voted counted, its official. Leave won.

EDIT: “We have done it without having to fight, we have done it without a bullet being fired. Dare to dream that the dawn is breaking on an independent nation.”

In case you were wondering if Leave was headed by a sane, decent person...

[Newhope]

Originally Posted by KiraYamatoFan

One could have waited to see what the Germans do first in their upcoming election. They are in far deeper shit with the EU than Britain is.

All I see now is the GBP and British companies dropping value at the stock exchange. Furthermore, businesses have started moving their assets and headquarters out of Britain. Enjoy time in the wilderness if that's what you really want.

It's not the British markets I am worried about some chaos is to be expected and will calm down after awhile, I am more worried about could this be the pin that finally pricks the current debt/market bubble the world economys in right now if that happens everybody is screwed.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

My aunt is an ex-consul of my country in France. She's telling me that if either Germany or France leave then the EU is essentially fucked.

I would agree though. France maybe but you'd need to go over Merkel's cold rotting corpse before you can get Germany out.

Oh, I don't think we really want to leave. Especially now that the Brits are gone at last.

[Kotohono]

Originally Posted by KiraYamatoFan

Baby-boomers (not all, but a lot) fucking things up for the younger generations. Why am I not surprised?

That's somehow not surprising and yet depressing :/.

Originally Posted by Brother Coa

Hate it if you must but remember - you live in democracy. And it is that democracy, that everyone cherish and defend to death, that enable UK to vote how it voted.
They may be 'uneducated','ignorant' and so on.... the point still remains - they are majority and they proved it. Minority in that case can only sit down and watch as they celebrate.

Except generally nations are founded on representative democracy, not pure democracy because of the danger of issues like this as a majority vote doesn't make something right nor a good idea.

[Ithekro]

Better question, does this do anything to European security? It make be an issue of long ago, but what about the Russians? Or is that still just NATO and everything is normal?

[ImperialKnight]

Not even a mighty warrior can break a frail arrow when it is multiplied and supported by its fellows. As long as you brothers support one another and render assistance to one another, your enemies can never gain the victory over you. But if you fall away from each other your enemy can brake you like frail arrows, one at a time.

Genghis Khan

People talk about independence all the time and about doing things yourself but the reality is that as a society we need each other for the greater good.

But hey what do I know right? When you let emotions rule you then you're bound to make crazy decisions but as others have said this has been coming due to the incompetence of certain people.

On the other hand I'm sure Putin is smiling with glee.

[Haak]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Well...

God save the Queen.

God help us all. XP

[Kakurin]

The German stock index DAX has opened with the biggest drop since 2008. Opened with a 10% loss. The Nikkei in Tokyo dropped by 8%. The Swiss market index SMI also lost 7% with their banks suffering the most. UBS and Credit Suisse stocks dropped by 13%. Fun times.

[DerGilga]

Can somebody explain to a Continental European what the English people gained today?

On another note, could this lead to a non United Kingdom?

Also, is my Schadenfreude a sign that I'm a bad human being?

[Helius]

Here we are folks, history is made.

Brexit: Leave wins EU referendum: BBC News

[MCAL]

And David Cameron just resigned. Normally this would be a happy occasion, but considering who is going to replace him...