2007-04-05, 10:06 | Link #41 |
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Itachi is blind without sharingan
Kakashi has 3rd teir sharingan and all of the benifits. His isn't 'better' than any other third teir. they all do the same thing. The reason he is 'better' than old school 'standard' sharingan useres is cuz he has other skillz besides sharingan, and he's pretty smart(also prolly alot of uchiha didn't make it to 3rd teir). The Weakness of Kakashi using sharingan is that it takes an extreme toll on his body. Most of the time we see kakashi use any form of sharingan for more than 30 seconds he's out for at least a week. Where as Itachi and Sasuke use it in their battles regularly without side effects. I also assume this would apply double to MS as even uchiha have side effects from it.
This makes me think of something interesting as well. Sharingan is awsome and lets you see moves ahead of time. This makes me think that there is no reason Itachi's eyesight would be bad WHEN USING REGULAR SHARINGAN, but if he was using his regular eyes, he might not even be able to see at all. This would explain why he keeps sharingan on all the time. If sasuke figures this out and renderes MS innefective, itachi's screwed cuz Sasuke can prolly just prolong the fight. This would also explain why Itachi doesn't want to drain below 20-30% chakra just from fighting. A jinkuri's regeneration ablility would be awsome for itachi's eyes. . . . Kakashi's words come back to haunt (greater jutsu, greater drawbacks) As For Juugo, what Sasuke wants is MS (prolly), but I doubt he told Oro about the requirements, otherwise oro might have set it up for sasuke to kill naruto. Instead If he can somehow simulate the requirements chemically of killing the closeset thing to him (with juugo's crazy enzymes) then he might be able to get MS without killing anyone(specifically naruto).
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plus after the time skip we arent sure what sasuke can do but if naruto passed him then it is safe to assume sasuke did as well |
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2007-04-05, 10:16 | Link #43 | |
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If it was Kakashi and Sasuke vs. Itachi, I don't think Itachi would last very long. (or even want to fight them)
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2007-04-05, 12:18 | Link #45 | |
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The reason why everyone had doubts about Itachi's supposingly inhuman strength/skill is Kishi always protrayed him as a cautious person who runs first, and question later. We have yet to see Itachi owning anyone to the extent of him gaining his reputation and if Kishi wants this character to keep this reputation, he has to create a scene soon that would prove Itachi's dominance. I am not a fan of this spoiler if it is true. It is yet another crippling blow to Orochimaru as all of us thought all along that the CS was something he invented... but yet it is another 'blood trait' (if you want to call it that) that he stole for his own usage.
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But at the same time....i get the same feeling from Jiraiya or...the other Sannin....but especially from Jiraiya. I got a feeling that he is extremly important in Naruto and may be the strongest regardless of what has been said or happend. But that's just me..
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also itachi is a sick bastard (untill futher notice) so he dosn't need a reason to kill them i cant say anyting on sasukes behalf cause i have no idea what he can do post time skip (hope we will see him do something soon ) Quote:
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2007-04-05, 12:59 | Link #48 | |
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He is not smarter then Shikamaru and he dont have better nose then Kiba and ofc he wont have better sharingan then any Uchiha .. he just said it becouse Kakashis expirience is battles. But i dont understand how Kakashi have Mangekyou |
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2007-04-05, 13:12 | Link #49 |
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I didn't understand that either. I a guessing it shows just as smart kakashi is. he unlocked something he shouldn't be able to. the same reason why the sharingran takes a great toll on him might be the reason why he didn't have to kill his best friend.
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2007-04-05, 14:29 | Link #50 | |
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And about Kakashi being better at .... i think Naruto ment it in a way of experience indeed. He said literaly: Heh Kakashi-sensei is really very strong. Smarter then Shikamaru...better nose then Kiba...a better Sharingan then Sasuke...Taijutsu even faster then thick-brows. Page 13, chapter 256...it's NOT a filler
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2007-04-05, 15:07 | Link #51 |
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If the cursed seal helped Sasuke in some way to overcome Orochimaru and control him, then the new guy can play a big part to rescue Orochimaru if something goes wrong with the cursed seal. It would be really fun to see Sasuke's cursed seal failing to activate suddenly (due to the new guy) against a strong opponent and meeting his doom day unexpectedly early, but, unfortunately, it will not happen anytime soon.
And, still there is no news on Kabuto. At the least, Jiraiya should have heard about Orochimaru by now, and hopefully reached Konoha to give the news to Tsunade. I hope, there would be at least one panel to let us know about either Kabuto or Jiraiya, or someone important (in other words, anyone other than the Bleach characters). |
2007-04-05, 15:10 | Link #52 |
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I know that is not filler but that is only Narutos words which dont mean that he really is all that .. becouse he dont have more then 200 IQ like Shikamaru .. And he dont have better nose and smell then Kiba .. and about Sharingan naruto said 2,5 years before, becouse he dont have clue what can Sasuke now with Sharingan.
Like u said now my papa is stronger then Taison that dont mean he is really stronger becouse he is stronger then me. We saw that Itachi is better Sharingan user when they confront in Konoha. |
2007-04-05, 15:23 | Link #53 | |
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And, Kakashi's sharingan can be considered as being better than Sasuke's. You cannot argue against, if someone tells you that Sasuke still does not have MS, whereas Kakashi has already attained it. Also, anything Sasuke can do, it is also possible for Kakashi to do. Lastly, even if you forget about MS, what Naruto said can almost ensure us one thing, that Kakashi's basic sharingan abilities without MS is better than Sasuke's sharingan from 2.5 years ago. Notice the word basic. That also means you can neither validate nor invalidate the claims regarding who has the better sharingan abilities right now. As we all know what sharingan can do is a matter of how puff the magic dragon impacts the brain, anything is possible at this point regarding both Kakashi and Sasuke, and regarding what both can do. |
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2007-04-05, 15:33 | Link #54 | |
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I don't post here very often but I read through the thread on a regular basis. I remember reading that as well, and i would have to agree with most of it. I think the Sasuke Sharingan reference would have to be about how well Sasuke used it 3 yrs prior as at that chapter of the manga they had not run into him sinse hel left to the sound village. |
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2007-04-05, 15:38 | Link #55 |
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OK i will put this simple .. becouse u explain something without any reason ..
-Shikamaru is smarter then Kakashi becouse he have more IQ then Kakashi .. -Kiba have better sense for smell then Kakashi becouse he can do 1000 times more smell sense.. -And at last Sasuke have better sharingan becouse he have 2 eyes and he is from Uchiha .. He didnt mean literaly "better" he meant that Kakashi use better all that in battle which is only point of expirience in battle .. |
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He could've ment things more then just battle experience...but...you stated your opinion and i did mine...it is pointless to continue this pointless discussion of the past. Especially if this isnt the proper thread for it. Regardless of the april things...there are less spoilers then usually...well atleast the last few weeks...and it's thursday already...there will be a raw this week right?
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2007-04-05, 16:13 | Link #57 |
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I understand when opinions r diferent .. but this is funny ..
IF Kakashi is smarter then Shikamaru then he have more then 300 IQ and he wouldnt admire Shikamarus tactics when they went on mission against Hidan and Kakuzu ! IF Kakashi have better smell then Kiba then he wouldnt use dogs to track, and he would beat Zabuza in mist and he would find Naruto without dog at waterfall! IF he have better Sharingan he wouldnt be pwned by Itachi Sharingan ! |
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Even if Shikamaru gains the same level of experience as Kakashi, in a typical fight, he may not be able to overcome the level Kakashi incorporates his intelligence to his other talents and abilities, making him the better. That might also be true for Kiba or others, if they also do not have strength to make use of their abilities at/above the level of Kakashi's. When did that happen? 2.5 years before the time that dialogue took place. And, whom did Naruto compare Kakashi to? Sasuke, the same guy who was also pwned by Itachi sharingan, and not once. |
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U again explain something that i said and then again u said something stupid .. U didnt mention anything about Kiba so i will assume that i was right there .. And Naruto said better then Sasukes sharingan and he didnt see him 2.5 years and now u question me why i meantion Itachi when that happened 2.5 years before .. I meantioned Itachi becouse Johny said that Kakashi have better sharingan then Itachi.. 1.Shikamaru have bigger IQ and that mean he is smarter! So Naruto failed in statement.. 2.Kiba have better smell then Kakashi (becouse Kakashi cant track without dogs or cant smell in mist when he fought Zabuza.. And Kiba can fight without open eyes)! So Narutos statement failed again.. 3.Kakashi cant have better sharingan then 2 sharingan eyes, he can use better then Sasuke but that was 2.5 years ago, and Naruto didnt see him 3 years from then! So Narutos statement failed again .. So if u find that 1 of these tree are true, then Naruto conclusions r wrong about everything .. |
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