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Old 2018-01-25, 20:50   Link #181
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Of course in there Alchemy can be used to explain everything
Though Winry apparently didn't use Alchemy?
But it can be argued that technologies derived from Alchemy made Prosthetics possible
What I wanted to ask is exactly that, what is the "Alchemy Equivalent" for this series?
you can see it as a sort of "steampunk" set up, where they have a sort of "advanced" old technology.
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Old 2018-01-25, 22:25   Link #182
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oohhhh Myyyyy GOOOOODDDDD ;___;
My god indeed. PTSDs are coming back..... Seems that someone in the staff likes that show to cast her in that particular role for that particular scene.
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Old 2018-01-25, 22:31   Link #183
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Of course in there Alchemy can be used to explain everything
Though Winry apparently didn't use Alchemy?
But it can be argued that technologies derived from Alchemy made Prosthetics possible
What I wanted to ask is exactly that, what is the "Alchemy Equivalent" for this series?
typewriters
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Old 2018-01-25, 23:53   Link #184
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typewriters
Wow~ Such a leap of generations of technologies

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you can see it as a sort of "steampunk" set up, where they have a sort of "advanced" old technology.
Yea, for the moment, I take this stance
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Old 2018-01-26, 03:05   Link #185
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Random trivia: The insignia given to the Dolls who underwent training is based on the lily of the valley, combined with the motif of typrwriter keys. In the Western language of flowers, it means "return of happiness", while in hanakotoba means "sweetness".
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Old 2018-01-26, 22:44   Link #186
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Now that I've seen all three of the first episodes, I have to say, I'm truly impressed. I really love it. Every episode is like... an emotional little present. There's precedent for calling this show melodramatic, but it's not on a ridiculous level or anything (for me). When I read the initial premise to this series and its source material, I actually didn't know it was going to be a journey of Violet growing and learning "how to people". I had figured she was already pre-established and such. What we're presented with here is way better.

And while the OP isn't Violet Snow like I had hoped, I actually do enjoy the song that is there. It's extremely fitting and, like someone else said, it does sound like something from a movie. I approve.
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Old 2018-01-27, 03:01   Link #187
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Old 2018-01-27, 07:33   Link #188
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When Violet received the brooch from that instructor, I was like... "err what.. She only typed directly what the other girl said.. Nothing else"

Too easy
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Old 2018-01-27, 11:34   Link #189
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When Violet received the brooch from that instructor, I was like... "err what.. She only typed directly what the other girl said.. Nothing else"

Too easy
I thought so, too. At least she could have been required to write one more letter with the teacher observing or reviewing.

Still, this show becomes richer each episode. I really hope Lucilia ends up employed by Claudia. She's a lovely and well-voiced character who deserves to continue in the story;. The scene with Lucilia and her brother at the top of the bell tower seemed rather conclusive in terms of story-telling feel, though he could fall back into being a drunk at a moment's notice and becoming a burden to Lucilia again. I saw the relationship between Lucilia and Violet as one that could help them both grow. Lucilia can learn from Violet's innate strength of characrter, and Violet can learn about feelings from Lucilia.

My parents owned a small business. This was the only typewriter they ever owned.



My father, of course, never could type, so it was my mother's job. When I was in high school, she made me take a summer typing course. I don't think she had any idea how much typing I would come to do in my career, and though I was not especially fond of the class, I'm glad she made me take it.

It took a lot of finger strength to raise the keys that struck the page on that Underwood. Electric typewriters were a big improvement. I had one of those in college, and an IBM Selectric with the typeface ball later on. Now I have a laser printer.,

Violet's 200 words-per-minute pace would break the known record on a manual typewriter:

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[Albert] Tangora set a world speed record for sustained typing on a manual keyboard for one hour at 147 words a minute on October 22, 1923. After a rest period, he typed 159 words in a one minute “sprint”. The machine was an Underwood Standard keyboard [probably similar to the one above]. His record over the one-hour period has never been surpassed on a manual typewriter.

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Old 2018-01-27, 19:06   Link #190
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I think it was 200 characters per minute, not 200 words per minute, if the subtitles were correct. 200 words would probably be way too fast for a typewriter to handle.
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Old 2018-01-28, 00:54   Link #191
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I've always seen typing speeds measured in words per minute. Two hundred characters would be about 30-35 words per minute. That may be what they said in the show, but that isn't especially fast, even on the machines they were using. I bet my mother could have typed that fast.
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Old 2018-01-28, 02:05   Link #192
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^It's character. 200 "moji" per-minute. It's actually weird since this show's letters is supposed to be equivalent to alphabet, not kanji. So that's not fast at all.
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Old 2018-01-28, 04:10   Link #193
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Maybe it's because the class is aimed at beginners and even a strict teacher wouldn't instruct a beginner to break world records.
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Old 2018-01-28, 10:23   Link #194
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I've read that some people thought that Violet getting the graduation insignia is a poor writing choice because it was "too convenient" or "too cliche".

For me, it really isn't that. As the instructor said, letters are about communicating someone's feelings and an optimal Doll is someone who can decipher their client's feelings and express it in words. Violet has the trappings of an excellent Doll, and only lacked understanding other people's feelings and expressing it in letter. Her friend Lucilia also knows this and wants to support Violet in order for her to graduate too. Her showing the instructor Violet's short, straight-to-the-point but impactful letter to her brother is proof enough for the instuctor to award Violet the insignia.
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Old 2018-01-28, 14:58   Link #195
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When Violet received the brooch from that instructor, I was like... "err what.. She only typed directly what the other girl said.. Nothing else"

Too easy
Exactly the motif of this episode. Words that are so simple to say that sometimes people have a hard time communicating it.
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Old 2018-01-28, 15:16   Link #196
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Except Lucilia said those words. A Doll should be able to type the words that weren't said.
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Old 2018-01-28, 15:30   Link #197
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Except Lucilia said those words. A Doll should be able to type the words that weren't said.
It's not a matter of whether the words are said or not. The point is to recognize what the client actually wants to convey. Sometimes that goes unsaid and you have to read between the lines but sometimes it's there all along.

Violet was able to recognize that those simple words were the important bits Luculia wanted to convey to her brother.
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Old 2018-01-28, 15:37   Link #198
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It's not a matter of whether the words are said or not. The point is to recognize what the client actually wants to convey. Sometimes that goes unsaid and you have to read between the lines but sometimes it's there all along.

Violet was able to recognize that those simple words were the important bits Luculia wanted to convey to her brother.
Violet did the job. Obviously. But the point is that on the whole, it was an easy one. Not something worth graduating from an elite and demanding program.
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Old 2018-01-28, 15:39   Link #199
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Violet did the job. Obviously. But the point is that on the whole, it was an easy one. Not something worth graduating from an elite and demanding program.
Agree with you on that, actually that's something people mentioned on other places, literally lots of viewers giving too much credit to this instead of just recognize it wasn't that big of a deal.
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Old 2018-01-28, 16:05   Link #200
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Except Lucilia said those words. A Doll should be able to type the words that weren't said.
The dolls should be able to convey what the person wants to convey. Not necessarily those that they can't say in person to the "Doll". So at this point she only said that to Violet but could not say that to her brother. I mean the deed seems petty but she went out of her way to actually do it. Not to mention she delivered it to the recipient herself instead of passing it on the client. That itself itself displayed complete act of sincerity towards the sibling's current situation.

In a work environment in the real world I would personally say that's an important aspect as well. You could have all the skill you need but if you're not doing your work sincerely in some aspect you wouldn't be delivering quality output at all. It's a reason passion jobs exists. Pays not great or the job might be so much of a hassle but you still do it because you care about the things that concern it and the people that rely on it.

In hindsight though there were already a lot of things that were being said about the training. It doesn't mean that they couldn't become a "Doll" if they didn't pass it. For Violet's case, she passed everything except that. I think they've driven the point so hard that that she isn't dumb but just lacks empathy.

I mean I don't blame people for focusing more on the technicality of the "test" but somehow I felt the episode got unfairly scrutinized for that single moment.
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