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Starburst · 2008-12-11, 09:08

I'm ordering from Canada, so the exchange is even worse, I believe Horo's somewhere 'round $92 CDN now. Which is making a lot of things very unaffordable. I wish it was back in September, sure gas was more expensive, but my dollar went further on imports.

salv87 · 2008-12-11, 09:11

hmm.. I wonder if a discussion about today's critical economic situations and medieval trading in SaW would be concidered offtopic ^_^

Blank-Mage · 2008-12-11, 13:18

Huh, somehow I can imagine Horo in modern times pretty easily... although I bet hiding her tail and ears would be more difficult.

salv87 · 2008-12-11, 14:28

hmm.. I wonder in how it would be in Japan, where people still tend to look a bit easier on nekomimi or that sort ^_^

Masanori Ota · 2008-12-12, 23:42

Got the calendar, it's bigger than I expected.

Got the last two DVDs to complete my collection, the guidebook (fawk yeah concept arts), and the most recent Dengeki Bunko Magazine with the Season 2 info. Need to scan it all. D:

RayzorFang · 2008-12-13, 19:10

So what's in the guidebook? I remember the official website said it covered the manga and also had concept art of Horo that should look similar to the light novel illustrations. Is the concept art good? what a silly question, all art of Horo looks good right?

Kaguya · 2008-12-13, 22:01

This is a guidebook.
http://www.spicy-wolf.com/original/guidebook.html

It is posted also on Page12 in this thread.
In the concept design, the sideburns of Horo were shorter than now.
But it was lengthened in order to hide the position of human's ear.
It is said that a flat chest is a request of all staff.

RayzorFang · 2008-12-13, 22:55

Very interesting, I prefer the long hair over the short in the concept art but I love the eyes here, it's a lot more like the light novel illustrations, pity it didn't make it to the anime.
The shorter hair makes her look a lot younger and wow on the left page did they want to give her yellow eyes?

Blank-Mage · 2008-12-15, 00:23

Out of semi-curiosity, I checked wikipedia to see what they had to say about the Horo/Holo conundrum, and it's Holo. What's interesting is the epic 3 page discussion they have on the subject, which I thought I might share with you people who might contribute. Well, actually, they seem to have wrapped things up after the official site put it down "Holo". We on the Horo side of the fence might just have to accept our defeat when the official subs hit...

Masanori Ota · 2008-12-15, 01:08

Yeah, we talked about Wikipedia's idiocy a year ago. Our conclusion: Wikipedia is editable by morons and said morons will undo any correction to what they personally believe is right.

Tl;dr: Wikis are a bad idea for good information. Should have never become encyclopedias.

Vexx · 2008-12-15, 01:57

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Originally Posted by Blank-Mage

Out of semi-curiosity, I checked wikipedia to see what they had to say about the Horo/Holo conundrum, and it's Holo. What's interesting is the epic 3 page discussion they have on the subject, which I thought I might share with you people who might contribute. Well, actually, they seem to have wrapped things up after the official site put it down "Holo". We on the Horo side of the fence might just have to accept our defeat when the official subs hit...

Aye, the "lo" crowd basically won that one and not because they had the better case.... they just were more stubborn about it and it didn't help that the anime production people failed romaji....

whatever.... its *pronounced* with that odd r/l/d sound that some Westerners have so much trouble with.

Blank-Mage · 2008-12-15, 03:28

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Originally Posted by Masanori Ota

Yeah, we talked about Wikipedia's idiocy a year ago.

A year ago? Geez, now I feel a tad bit like a complete idiot. Awesome.

.

Vexx · 2008-12-15, 03:40

well, kadokawausa carried on the "lo" nonsense with their website ... so not only is Horo -> Holo but apparently Nora -> Nola. That was nearly a year ago though... if we're lucky there's been some backdraft, but...

I grieve for the dub but then I really don't have hopes the dub will capture the essence of Lawrence and Horo's relationship well anyway.
Just hoping for a good video encode and decent subtitle translations.

RayzorFang · 2008-12-15, 03:48

Hear hear, the dub will suffer but as long as the subtitles are consistent and correct then it'll be enough for me

Masanori Ota · 2008-12-15, 14:27

I don't even care for the dub, I'll just take the awesome encode off the Blu-Ray discs and slap the subs on 'em. Screw American licensees.

GuidoHunter_Toki · 2008-12-15, 18:31

Wait a sec, so its been dubbed already?

Vexx · 2008-12-15, 20:27

No, its just that if you flip a coin, a dub is less likely to be satisfying. No blame to the VAs particularly - its just the method of recording the dialog and the difference in acting training between Japan and the US/Canada. Sometimes, the dialog/translation itself can be unsatisfying to some.

RampagingEvangelion · 2008-12-16, 02:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blank-Mage

We on the Horo side of the fence might just have to accept our defeat when the official subs hit...

Are you insane!? Never! As a Horoist, I must not allow you to stray from what is good and right! Snap out of it!

Blank-Mage · 2008-12-16, 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by RampagingEvangelion

Are you insane!? Never! As a Horoist, I must not allow you to stray from what is good and right! Snap out of it!

You forgot to slap me, that's important when yelling 'snap out of it'.

Lightly_Toasted · 2008-12-16, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Blank-Mage

You forgot to slap me, that's important when yelling 'snap out of it'.

Seriously YOU GUYS, DON"T BE SUCH SOFTIES. DON"T YOU KNOW WE CAN RESOLVE MATTERS MUCH MORE EASILY BY YELLING AND SCREAMING AT EACHOTHER!?

2008-12-11, 13:18	Link #263
Blank-Mage Maniacal laughter ensues. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: My own delusions of grandeur. Age: 35	Huh, somehow I can imagine Horo in modern times pretty easily... although I bet hiding her tail and ears would be more difficult. __________________

2008-12-12, 23:42	Link #265
Masanori Ota It's Horo, not Han Solo. Join Date: Jun 2006	Got the calendar, it's bigger than I expected. Got the last two DVDs to complete my collection, the guidebook (fawk yeah concept arts), and the most recent Dengeki Bunko Magazine with the Season 2 info. Need to scan it all. D: __________________

2008-12-15, 00:23	Link #269
Blank-Mage Maniacal laughter ensues. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: My own delusions of grandeur. Age: 35	Out of semi-curiosity, I checked wikipedia to see what they had to say about the Horo/Holo conundrum, and it's Holo. What's interesting is the epic 3 page discussion they have on the subject, which I thought I might share with you people who might contribute. Well, actually, they seem to have wrapped things up after the official site put it down "Holo". We on the Horo side of the fence might just have to accept our defeat when the official subs hit... __________________ Last edited by Blank-Mage; 2008-12-15 at 00:27. Reason: Afterthought

2008-12-15, 01:08	Link #270
Masanori Ota It's Horo, not Han Solo. Join Date: Jun 2006	Yeah, we talked about Wikipedia's idiocy a year ago. Our conclusion: Wikipedia is editable by morons and said morons will undo any correction to what they personally believe is right. Tl;dr: Wikis are a bad idea for good information. Should have never become encyclopedias. __________________

2008-12-15, 03:40	Link #273
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	well, kadokawausa carried on the "lo" nonsense with their website ... so not only is Horo -> Holo but apparently Nora -> Nola. That was nearly a year ago though... if we're lucky there's been some backdraft, but... I grieve for the dub but then I really don't have hopes the dub will capture the essence of Lawrence and Horo's relationship well anyway. Just hoping for a good video encode and decent subtitle translations. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2008-12-11, 09:08	Link #261
Starburst Horo♥ Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 39	I'm ordering from Canada, so the exchange is even worse, I believe Horo's somewhere 'round $92 CDN now. Which is making a lot of things very unaffordable. I wish it was back in September, sure gas was more expensive, but my dollar went further on imports.

2008-12-11, 09:11	Link #262
salv87 Can't think of a title^_^ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lithuania Age: 36	hmm.. I wonder if a discussion about today's critical economic situations and medieval trading in SaW would be concidered offtopic ^_^

2008-12-11, 14:28	Link #264
salv87 Can't think of a title^_^ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lithuania Age: 36	hmm.. I wonder in how it would be in Japan, where people still tend to look a bit easier on nekomimi or that sort ^_^

2008-12-13, 19:10	Link #266
RayzorFang APRIL APRIL APRIL Join Date: Oct 2008	So what's in the guidebook? I remember the official website said it covered the manga and also had concept art of Horo that should look similar to the light novel illustrations. Is the concept art good? what a silly question, all art of Horo looks good right?

2008-12-13, 22:01	Link #267
Kaguya an idler Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Suzuka	This is a guidebook. http://www.spicy-wolf.com/original/guidebook.html It is posted also on Page12 in this thread. In the concept design, the sideburns of Horo were shorter than now. But it was lengthened in order to hide the position of human's ear. It is said that a flat chest is a request of all staff.

2008-12-13, 22:55	Link #268
RayzorFang APRIL APRIL APRIL Join Date: Oct 2008	Very interesting, I prefer the long hair over the short in the concept art but I love the eyes here, it's a lot more like the light novel illustrations, pity it didn't make it to the anime. The shorter hair makes her look a lot younger and wow on the left page did they want to give her yellow eyes?

2008-12-15, 03:48	Link #274
RayzorFang APRIL APRIL APRIL Join Date: Oct 2008	Hear hear, the dub will suffer but as long as the subtitles are consistent and correct then it'll be enough for me

2008-12-15, 14:27	Link #275
Masanori Ota It's Horo, not Han Solo. Join Date: Jun 2006	I don't even care for the dub, I'll just take the awesome encode off the Blu-Ray discs and slap the subs on 'em. Screw American licensees. __________________

2008-12-15, 18:31	Link #276
GuidoHunter_Toki Wiggle Your Big Toe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Milwaukee Age: 33	Wait a sec, so its been dubbed already? __________________ I'm an aspiring voice actor, why not check out some of my stuff

2008-12-15, 20:27	Link #277
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	No, its just that if you flip a coin, a dub is less likely to be satisfying. No blame to the VAs particularly - its just the method of recording the dialog and the difference in acting training between Japan and the US/Canada. Sometimes, the dialog/translation itself can be unsatisfying to some. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!