The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[Joe4evr]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Can Mikuru even swim?

They went to a pool in Endless Eight, right?

I guess that doesn't say much, though.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

During the filming of the movie, she was thrown into water. I'm pretty sure all she knows how to do is flail around to keep her head above water.

[Aebliss]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Sail boats are obsolete technologically, but people still use them.

We're talking about the very distant future. Who knows what happens before then? Technology somehow advances to the point that it can enable time travel without the use of two slabs of exotic matter the size of the universe, or the modification of a quantum singularity, apparently. And it casually violates what I've read about scientific analyses of time travel to boot!

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

None of this is possible though if Mikuru causes the entire world to be destroyed.

Mikuru (small)'s a trainee. Mikuru (big)'s a high-up in the hierarchy. This does not indicate she becomes the architect of the end, seeing as the small one isn't in any position to cause a big mess, and the big one is apparently trusted enough to imply she does her job well and has done it well for a while.

[Cat Megex]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Sail boats are obsolete technologically

That's like saying that bicycles are obsolete technologically.

Seriously, have you seen some of the sailboats they use these days? Especially for racing and such.

[wittyusername]

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

During the filming of the movie, she was thrown into water. I'm pretty sure all she knows how to do is flail around to keep her head above water.

It's Mikuru. She wouldn't be that great with swimming even if she knew how to.

[Ithekro]

They went to te beach too...and they threw Mikuru into the canal/river during filming...I haven't seen her swim yet...play in shallow water...float in a tube, and ride (clinging to Haruhi) behind a jet ski.

We don't know if any of them can swim yet (Endless Eight I assume has some actually swimming in it, but I don't remember). We can guess Haruhi is perfect at it, one expects Kyon and Itsuki to be able to at least swim a little. Yuki? Since she doesn't appear to be mechanical, there won't be a rust/electrocution problem. However she spents all the time reading...even when water skiing. One would assume she could learn...though drowning that first time might be annoying.

[Tyabann]

If they don't use boats anymore, that kind of says something for how ridiculously advanced their technology is.

The real proof will be when they go on their next summer trip to Europe... if she doesn't even know what a plane is, then...

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

The real proof will be when they go on their next summer trip to Europe... if she doesn't even know what a plane is, then...

Then she is probably lying.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

Then she is probably lying.

Who knows? They could have advanced teleportation, thus no need for physical travel at all.

[Ithekro]

Hover tech to the point of not using floating boats (because some crackpot will come up with the notion that a boat in contact with the water might harm the ecosystem).

Of course highly advanced hover tech could make winged aircraft obsolete...though the advantage of having the wings to provide lift without extra use of power for long distances could be a sticking point for keeping them.

Base technologies might be obsolete, but the fuction is in most of the advanced technology unless there is a dramatic shift in how one does things.

Unless there aren't any fish in the sea (or it is illegal), there will still be fishermen in boats in Southeast Asia or off New England, or any such place.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Wouldn't she also be confused by buses, trains and automobiles, then?

[Tyabann]

Or there's no ocean anymore.


Mikuru has absolutely no knowledge of how physical technology works. Remember her uselessness with the laptop and the guitar?


If she has no knowledge of physical technology, she could be from thousands of years into the future.

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

Wouldn't she also be confused by buses, trains and automobiles, then?

She was probably briefed on common forms of transportation, at least...

[Ithekro]

High end transporter technology would be a long range thing. Using it over short distances is probably considered a waste of energy, or the criss-cross of energy patterns would overly confuse the systems.

Car, buses, and trains would have an analog in the future because you still have to move people around from one part of a city to another. They might look different and have different means of moving...but the basic feature of a box moving people is the same.

[Joe4evr]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

One would assume she could learn...though drowning that first time might be annoying.

Or she could pull a Jesus Christ by using her data modification powers to locally alter the density of the water.

Wouldn't she also be confused by buses, trains and automobiles, then?

Well, they don't really go against the common sense (don't think that's the word here) that metal can't float on water. I think that's where Mikuru was confused in the first place.

[Ithekro]

Drying up 70% of the planets surface up to five miles deep would take an awfully lot of energy plus remove the ice caps....or freeze the entire planet, would would make it just as dead and likely not worth the effort of a time travel group designed to keep the future on track.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

If they don't use boats anymore, that kind of says something for how ridiculously advanced their technology is.

We're either looking at so far in the future that everyone can upload their consciousness onto computers and talk in binary, or Mikuru was a dick and caused WW IV.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Or there's no ocean anymore.

That makes Mikuru a liar. Which actually could very well be the case.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Mikuru has absolutely no knowledge of how physical technology works. Remember her uselessness with the laptop and the guitar?

Post singularity where everyone lives in machines.

[ryanasaurus0077]

Originally Posted by kaisos erranon

or there's no ocean anymore.


Mikuru has absolutely no knowledge of how physical technology works. Remember her uselessness with the laptop and the guitar?


If she has no knowledge of physical technology, she could be from thousands of years into the future.



She was probably briefed on common forms of transportation, at least...

No Fucking Shit!

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by ryanasaurus0077

No Fucking Shit!

Lose the 'tude brah.

[ryanasaurus0077]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Lose the 'tude brah.

Just trying to keep up the image of a grumpy and easily aggravated cynic who likes to review old movies and happens to be a favorite of mine.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Post singularity where everyone lives in machines.

Probably this.


On a slightly different topic, remember Yuki's story in Editor-in-Chief?

I always got the feeling that the "ghost girl" in the story was supposed to be Mikuru.

According to Yuki, those without names are "ghosts".

Fujiwara refuses to reveal his real name.

What if they don't have names in the future?

Originally Posted by ryanasaurus0077

Just trying to keep up the image of a grumpy and easily aggravated cynic who likes to review old movies and happens to be a favorite of mine.

-_-