The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[Jintor]

Did anybody else feel that Bats was a combination of Miller!Bats and Rorschach there?

[Cat Megex]

Originally Posted by wassupimviet

A skill-bereft person has arrived to pay homage, despite have lurked here for a little over half a year. I'll probably end up being an annoying snob, but until then...

I've decided to be part of the insanity.

WELCOME. YOUR INSANITY SALL SHERVE KYONKO WELL.

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

It'll come, give it time.

*coughs*

Sorry for the delay.

Originally Posted by dkellis

Here, Koizumi is likely trying to convey the sense of an Outside Context Problem, and so he does something that is completely out of the bounds of the rules and conventions of chess.

...dkellis, are you a telepathic? I only just today read about Outside Context Problems (and who coined the term) and, on a general level, Black Swan events.

Spoiler for totally off-topic:

...Note that this started when I was trying to figure out what .mui files actually do in Vista, besides being resource files for certain system executables (like screensavers). And that, of course, was because... well, it was out of curiosity, as I already knew that they were a type of resource file, but I saw the extension in the context of the fact that the Vista-original screen savers (Aurora, Ribbons, Bubbles, and the redone Mystify) don't have settings that you can change from the Windows Appearance menu but have the proper dialog boxes stored in their resource files and can have their settings altered by creating certain Registry entries. What the hell, Microsoft.

Spoiler for even more off-topic:

On another note, does anybody know what it means when a set of transducers (ones that measure physical force and are connected to a single data-collection device, which is then connected to a computer) start randomly giving you "NaN" (i.e. "Not a Number") instead of a proper measurement? It wasn't the wiring of the transducers to the data collection device, nor the wiring of the device to the computer, but because of the way the tests I'm running are set up, getting NaN as a value rather than an actual number automatically stops the test. (Which does make sense, as discontinuities, spikes, and drops would make test data quite inaccurate.) Note that NaN will still randomly appear even when no forces are applied to any of the transducers and the measurements are 0, and that otherwise the devices work fine.

I have a hunch that it might be due to random drops in voltage or current or something in the system, though, which, if I'm not mistaken, would likely mean that there is a loose connection or are loose connections somewhere in the setup. I have no clue if that's actually what it is, though.

...Yeah, I had a long day at work.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Jintor

Did anybody else feel that Bats was a combination of Miller!Bats and Rorschach there?

No, Rorschach doesn't really try to justify his actions. He does them because they're self-justifying, from his worldview.

The monologing was pretty Rorschach though.


ON topic, what are we having "SOS" stand for in the VN?

Could do "Spreading excitement all Over the world", which is what the dub used, or "Save the world by Overloading it with fun", which is what Strato and the translations based off of his used.

Discuss, please. Strato's version (the same one the official novel version used) is my preference, but...

[Cat Megex]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

ON topic, what are we having "SOS" stand for in the VN?

Could do "Spreading excitement all Over the world", which is what the dub used, or "Save the world by Overloading it with fun", which is what Strato and the translations based off of his used.

Discuss, please. Strato's version (the same one the official novel version used) is my preference, but...

I, too, prefer the latter.

[Tyabann]

Also does anyone have the official novel translation on hand to see how they translated "Computer Research Society"?

(I'm probably going to go with the Strato translations on everything, for standardization's sake.)

[wittyusername]

They left it as the Computer Research Society.

[Cat Megex]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Also does anyone have the official novel translation on hand to see how they translated "Computer Research Society"?

(I'm probably going to go with the Strato translations on everything, for standardization's sake.)

The official translation is "Computer Research Society". :x

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by wittyusername

They left it as the Computer Research Society.

Blech. I always hated that translation... it sounds so Engrishy.

Whatever then. Thank you.

[wittyusername]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Blech. I always hated that translation... it sounds so Engrishy.

Engrish is only acceptable on things such as crappy Yan Yan, when you can laugh at it and never have to see it again. With the translation, it just keeps popping up over and over again.

[swtrooper42]

Stratos version all the way.
Because whenever I think of SOS in my head, I think "Save the world by Overloading it with fun Suzumiya Haruhi's Brigade".

EDIT: typo

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by swtrooper42

Stratos version all the way.
Because whenever I think of SOS in my head, I think "Save the world by Overloading it with fun Suzuimya Haruhi's Brigade".

Mya mya myacology mankind mya? Très bie~n!


Another difficulty discovered: The American school system refers to the three years as "freshman, junior, and senior". The problem comes when trying to convert this over into the Japanese high school system and the "senpai/kouhai" thing, which when translated are identical to two of the above.

As a result I can't refer to Mikuru as a "pretty junior"... curses.

[swtrooper42]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Mya mya myacology mankind mya? Très bie~n!

Well, I'm only human. I make typos.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by swtrooper42

Well, I'm only human. I make typos.

No, it just reminded me of Ima Made no Arasuji is all, and thus it made me laugh.

Not at you, mind.

[WordShaker]

*revives through the grace of the Goddess Haruhi*

Late, but I agree with the consensus on Strato's translations, if that means anything.

[Nanao-kun]

Originally Posted by wassupimviet

*revives through the grace of the Goddess Haruhi*

Late, but I agree with the consensus on Strato's translations, if that means anything.

Oh, you're back. I agree with you.

[Tyabann]

The entire latter bit of this is from Jintor already, but the opening monologue is there just to set the mood and act as a minor introduction to the Brigade members and the metaplot.

Spoiler for September the First, Day 0, Universe 1- Brigade HQ- Poker in a Clubroom:

[Scene: Brigade HQ, Afternoon]

Every day after school, I somehow find myself walking towards the old school building. My legs turn corners and traverse staircases as though they have a mind of their own, requiring no cognitive function to complete the actions I've done every day for nearly half a year.

The old school building, referred to by most students as the “Old Shack”, is the housing for all clubs that do not have their own, specialized clubroom. (For example, the Computer Research Society, the purposed of which should be self-explanatory.)

And in the Old Shack, currently occuping the defunct Literature Clubroom, is the Save the world by Overloading it with fun: Haruhi Suzumiya's Brigade, or “The SOS Brigade”, for short.

I apologize for the name making little sense in context. This, too, is not my fault.

The Brigade is composed of five members:

Haruhi Suzumiya, who has already been introduced, and, in any case, needs no introduction.

Yuki Nagato, a quiet girl and a former member of the Literature Club, recruited when Haruhi took over the clubroom. She's also an alien of some sort.

Mikuru Asahina, a cute girl one year our senior. She was dragged into the Brigade against her will, and forced to cosplay as such things as a maid or a nurse, for some reason. She also happens to be a time traveler from the future.

Itsuki Koizumi, a transfer student with a perpetual, smarmy grin. He was recruited because Haruhi seems to believe that all transfer students are automatically mysterious. He also has various paranormal abilities, which therefore makes him an esper.

And then there's me. I thought I said there wasn't anything special about me already.

Anyway. I'm in the clubroom now, and school's out.

Since the school's cafeteria isn't open yet, Her Highness Haruhi has wandered off to the restaurant outside school grounds to satisfy her biological needs. Everybody's shot off in their different directions, with their different things to do, except Koizumi here, who's sitting across from me with his usual grin.

Itsuki: Well, she is a genius. No doubt she was a child prodigy, so a holiday assignment like this wouldn't have been anything like a burden to her. Such a remarkable personality wouldn't even have bothered thinking of having to share the work with her friends - I mean, from her point of view, she wouldn't even have considered the fact that others might not be able to do the assignment with ease.

I shook my head, sighing. Even theoretically, Haruhi was fundamentally selfish. No, not the right word - she didn't take into consideration the feelings of others. A subtle difference.

Unfolding the collapsible chair, I sat by the windowpane. Today was orientation day, after all, so I had originally planned to head straight home, but I though I'd take a quick detour to see if Nagato was in the clubroom.

Koizumi had joined me on the way here, but Nagato was decidedly absent. These last 594 years must have been tiring ones, even for an alien-human interface like Nagato.

Outside, the forlorn cries of the higurashi echo through the sky. Summer had finally ended; I was sure of that. And yet-

Kyon: It's like a dream! We've repeated these last two weeks of August fifteen-thousand something-odd times...

Itsuki: ...I wouldn't call what we've experienced something as trivial as a 'dream'.

He smiles at me, genuinely friendly, yet somehow odd, and starts to shuffle a deck of cards that he produces out of nowhere. Like a magician, or more accurately, some kind of con-artist.

Itsuki: But what else are we to call it? There should be no common memory between the 'us' that have existed within those last fifteen-thousand, four-hundred and ninety-seven fortnights. They don't exist on the same timeline. Only the 'us' that have broken the cycle and advanced to September the 1st should remember anything, and even then...

Koizumi pauses momentarily, the ace of spades between his slender fingers.

Itsuki: Logically speaking, they - sorry, we - should only remember the memories that we experienced directly.

Kyon: Logic goes completely out the window with Haruhi around.

After all, I was definitely getting severe deja vu by that last iteration of the holidays. Perhaps it was the last, desperate gifts of the thousands of 'Me' that came before, trapped in an endless summer with no visible escape; the thoughts of a thousand versions of myself, longing for an end to an endless summer.

Well, I guess it's thanks to the efforts of the thousands trapped that this 'me' - that is to say, me - can get back on track with the rest of his life. I mean, my life.

(Sometimes, I think the worst part of time travel is keeping track of all the pronouns.)

And if I didn't think that way, well, then all those summer holidays would have been absolutely wasted. Not to mention all those 'me's' who were trapped in that seemingly endless loop...

When I asked Nagato about variations, I didn't let her finish. I wonder how strange some of those 'Me's' got. Especially the ones who knew, in the end, that everything they did was for nothing, and the entire world would just reset back to the way it was.

I sure hope none of them went insane.


Itsuki: Would you like to play poker?

The deck between his hands blurs slightly as Koizumi begins to deal cards, like some kind of amateur magician. It can't hurt to keep him entertained. And it'll distract me from this slightly disturbing line of thinking.

Kyon: Alright, but only if there's no money involved. My wallet always ends up moth-infested after we play for cash.

Itsuki: If that is your wish, so it shall be. We'll play for chips.

I only ever win big when winning doesn't matter. I sigh and pick up my cards.

...A royal flush? That's a first.

I swore in the back of my mind that if I were ever to repeat this day, I'd be betting cash for sure.

I'll talk about visual effects that would be needed if anyone cares. Also, more later.

[yggdrasil325]

What about the Integrated Data Sentient Entity? Are we going to leave it as such or go with the novel's Data Overmind?

[Nanao-kun]

Originally Posted by yggdrasil325

What about the Integrated Data Sentient Entity? Are we going to leave it as such or go with the novel's Data Overmind?

I thought it was the Integrated Data Thought Entity.

[WordShaker]

I'm fairly sure the BT translation was "Integrated Data Sentient Entity".

[CrowKenobi]

Originally Posted by wassupimviet

I'm fairly sure the BT translation was "Integrated Data Sentient Entity".

Stratos used that (but used "Thought" instead of "Sentient") in the first season, but used "Data Overmind" for Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody... either one works for me.



And try using "Second Year" for Mikuru...