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Old 2015-03-01, 14:58   Link #501
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Speaking of weapons... did I miss something or did Izuka and Valerie NOT explain who or what was making all of the cursed blades?

I mean, they both knew something about it, but I don't remember them going into detail about it.

Also, it is absolutely amazing how Fi is so eager to kill a lot of demons. Imagine if anyone in Nanoha actually came out and said "so I'm going on a journey to kill a lot of the bad guys! "
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Old 2015-03-01, 16:58   Link #502
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You are vastly overestimating the seriousness of which this universe would deal with "illegitimate" children. Besides, for Valerie to maintain any kind of effectiveness as the Demon Lord, one would assume the relationship had to be kept relatively quiet. I mean, if they knew the Hero and Demon Lord were in a relationship, questions would be asked.
OTOH, apparently communication back then was much more patchy. What started as "Prince Valerie has a problematic hobby of raising demons" ended up as "There's a bona fide Demon King in Pastillage" to whoever was removed enough.
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Old 2015-03-01, 19:23   Link #503
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Wow, this episode was kinda sad in yuri aspect
you see that the princess and her yuusha had a romantic relationship howewer since the princess died her yuusha married with her brother without chemistry
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Old 2015-03-01, 19:23   Link #504
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You are vastly overestimating the seriousness of which this universe would deal with "illegitimate" children. Besides, for Valerie to maintain any kind of effectiveness as the Demon Lord, one would assume the relationship had to be kept relatively quiet. I mean, if they knew the Hero and Demon Lord were in a relationship, questions would be asked.

Though it's possible I need to take my own advice and am overestimating the effect something like that would have on these people.

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Nobility works more or less the same regardless of time, or place. Isuka has on several occasions called them a married couple, seemingly in jest, but most likely not. They also sleep in the same room, but on different beds(?).
In regards to Valerie's demon lord status, it's all a hoax, Adel didn't even take him seriously. They sealed each other away after their children became independent, once their grandchildren were born.

Also this thing exists by the way. Translation courtesy of Jin Kisaragi.

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Old 2015-03-01, 19:44   Link #505
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I really really really didn't expect Hina.

Also, I thought that Valery's story would he sadder, as he's not that willing to talk about it as much as Adel
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Old 2015-03-01, 20:05   Link #506
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I really really really didn't expect Hina.

Also, I thought that Valery's story would he sadder, as he's not that willing to talk about it as much as Adel
Maybe he's feeling guiltier than she does. He's the smart one, so he should have known how it would end for Clarifié. Or found a way to save her, like he found a way to help Hina.

Adelle isn't stupid, but what she knows of Demons, she probably heard from Valerie.
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Old 2015-03-01, 22:04   Link #507
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Speaking of weapons... did I miss something or did Izuka and Valerie NOT explain who or what was making all of the cursed blades?

I mean, they both knew something about it, but I don't remember them going into detail about it.
I agree. Ever since the end of season 1 I've been wanting to know who or what made the Demon Blades, why, and where they're from. The image of the baby fox getting cursed in the first season made me think it might be from somewhere "outside", in one sense or another. It'd be cool to delve deeper and maybe have a battle against the source.

Additionally, I'd like to know who cast the Furball spell that protects the entire land from serious harm, and how. Seems like it came about around the same time as the flashback; hope it's not connected to the old, malfunctioning monument...

Also, a speculation that I know will never happen in this story that started with potential for interesting action development and then decided after one season to settle for panties and furry fun. Ep8 seems to suggest that contact with different types of demons and evil can have different effects. We know that Fi's power makes her highly susceptible. The black clothes suggests it, but we're never actually told what happened to Fi. Thus, something that'd be cool but wouldn't happen: by being exposed to and absorbing the poisonous miasma of all those demons, Fi started to change in a way similar to the baby fox, only on a much deeper level, and if the seal where the Hero King and Demon King breaks down further, we'll get a Demon Queen of royal blood with all the power to match the Heroes and compatibility with the Crystals.
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Old 2015-03-02, 18:15   Link #508
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Now that I've actually watched episodes 6, 7, and 8, I am somewhat annoyed with the folks who did the music for episode 6. The part near the beginning where Leo introduced herself and she and her competitors appeared on the stage used a piece of music from season 1 that played during what was, in my opinion, the single most awesome and badass moment in the entire series. They had no business misusing it for something as insignificant as this.

Anyway.... FI-SAMAAAA!! NOOOOOOOO!!!
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Old 2015-03-03, 04:38   Link #509
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i ' m still not sure who's P.O.V. of the Adele bathing scene is accurate, the BD extra manga clearly shows Valerie going Jiraiya mode while the anime has him acting like a pure minded shocked harem protag who goes ~kyaaa!!!~
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Old 2015-03-03, 06:23   Link #510
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i ' m still not sure who's P.O.V. of the Adele bathing scene is accurate, the BD extra manga clearly shows Valerie going Jiraiya mode while the anime has him acting like a pure minded shocked harem protag who goes ~kyaaa!!!~
The BD-extra was probably from Adele's perspective, while the anime version was probably from Valerie's.
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Old 2015-03-03, 11:27   Link #511
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so putting aside the tragic end of Fi nee-san

i kind find it funny that Hina didn't end up being an eternal loli character arch type,

then came my stupid (JOKE) speculation, what if Cou is the reincarnation of Fi? yeah it sounds stupid cuz' her appearance is the result of the passed family genes duh,
due to Valerie being his sister's brother, he decided to do that Demon's Blood experiment on her that caused Isuca & his sister's immortality in the first place, albeit reversed it that may or may not require involvement of their children then grandchildren & so on, well her funeral seals the deal so its not technically involving using her original body, hibernation or not, also Valerie's reaction to Adele fusing with Cou in ep4 say he never seen that stunt since his sister so making him not aware thus him not doing any of those resurrection experiments in the first place thus debunked, again take this as a joke.
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Old 2015-03-03, 13:42   Link #512
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Wow, this episode was kinda sad in yuri aspect
you see that the princess and her yuusha had a romantic relationship howewer since the princess died her yuusha married with her brother without chemistry
I'm sorry, no chemistry? Those two were on the ship being shipped off the shipyard all the way back after their first episode in season 2. Even the girls in the series itself went "squeeee~!" at those two.

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The BD-extra was probably from Adele's perspective, while the anime version was probably from Valerie's.
More the two were different events, and likely the first time was a genuine accident.

The other times (and I do think there were many other times)... not so much.

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so putting aside the tragic end of Fi nee-san

i kind find it funny that Hina didn't end up being an eternal loli character arch type,

then came my stupid (JOKE) speculation, what if Cou is the reincarnation of Fi? yeah it sounds stupid cuz' her appearance is the result of the passed family genes duh,
due to Valerie being his sister's brother, he decided to do that Demon's Blood experiment on her that caused Isuca & his sister's immortality in the first place, albeit reversed it that may or may not require involvement of their children then grandchildren & so on, well her funeral seals the deal so its not technically involving using her original body, hibernation or not, also Valerie's reaction to Adele fusing with Cou in ep4 say he never seen that stunt since his sister so making him not aware thus him not doing any of those resurrection experiments in the first place thus debunked, again take this as a joke.
Well, it's... not entirely impossible that Fi has some influence on the transformation. Recall that Fi is a spirit user, and right now her being dead would make her a spirit (the post-credit scene, whole mostly joking, does hint at that at well). The attack was very much akin to her magic, as Valery notes.

Pure speculation, but it's theoretically possible that Fi was involved in the fusion event.
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Old 2015-03-04, 15:52   Link #513
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Ok, now I'm waiting for an eventual Nanoha and Dog Days crossover OVA . All sorts of fun could be had .
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I'm sorry, no chemistry?
That's the Yuri Goggles, I guess...
For me it was even more tragic, as Fi saw Adelé as more than just a friend but Adelé seemed to have the hots for Valerié since he put his hand on her head.

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More the two were different events, and likely the first time was a genuine accident.
Agreed, guess during the accidentially first time she didn't had Gran Mars at her disposal. Next time she flattend him.
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Old 2015-03-04, 15:58   Link #514
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I think my favorite part was the ending, where Milhi was giving Cinque a rather....expectant look after hearing about the relationship between Fi and Adel.
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Old 2015-03-04, 19:31   Link #515
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I think my favorite part was the ending, where Milhi was giving Cinque a rather....expectant look after hearing about the relationship between Fi and Adel.
THIS.

We know what's gonna happen.

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I'm sorry, no chemistry? Those two were on the ship being shipped off the shipyard all the way back after their first episode in season 2. Even the girls in the series itself went "squeeee~!" at those two.
Kitsu is a man hater, despite being one, he has a blog for yuri only, so no point discussing him on that.

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Old 2015-03-04, 20:42   Link #516
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the shipping could be worse than that if the staff are being the best trolls ever,
like Fi X Adele X Valerie threesome, hot damn...........
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Old 2015-03-05, 02:08   Link #517
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You know, I could totally see "war" break out between modern day Midchilda and Belka, sparking panic between the Earthlings...

...only for them to find out that this not only occurs every 4 years, keeps forces of both factions fighting fit, and is a festival of Barrier Jacket destruction.
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Old 2015-03-05, 05:54   Link #518
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Clarifier ep was great backstory stuff, but man I hated how she had to die like that, but she was truly a great leader wanting the betterment of not just her own kingdom but for the whole world! I've got greater respect for healers in video games now

Adel not having a great earth life caught me by surprise though, but her cheerfulness came from her time in Flonyard so it's great she got called up for hero duty. I hope that Sink doesn't get tired of Earth life, I'm tired of that guy getting glomped by my Yukikaze

Valery's rise as the demon king was hilarious, I was wondering how the guy got such a title while being the brother of the world's nicest girl, it totally makes sense that he'd apply it to himself
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Old 2015-03-05, 08:17   Link #519
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You know, I could totally see "war" break out between modern day Midchilda and Belka, sparking panic between the Earthlings...

...only for them to find out that this not only occurs every 4 years, keeps forces of both factions fighting fit, and is a festival of Barrier Jacket destruction.
Let the war begin .

Considering both sides have an appreciation for mock battles it totally could work.
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Old 2015-03-05, 15:46   Link #520
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Valery's rise as the demon king was hilarious, I was wondering how the guy got such a title while being the brother of the world's nicest girl, it totally makes sense that he'd apply it to himself
I've always been curious about that demon king title. Fortunately it's in a humor-sense of revelation

Really enjoyed story-time with Adel though, was a very nice episode. Saddening that Fi passed on that way.
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