2008-12-13, 02:06 | Link #901 | |
Alto x Ranka :)
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Like you said, there was plenty wrong with her character within the series and there it's really a large part due to the rushed development of other characters (mostly Sheryl) and even the episode count that was finalized. Even with her flaws I still find myself enjoying the scenes where Ranka appears, prior to her leaving though she was having a decent conversation with Alto. As for Brera, yeah she could have said something to stop him but at the same time he didn't beat him, the first time I believe he took him down in a hammerlock of some sort and the second time he just knocked the gun out of his hand. Still I never said she was perfect and that is not what I'm claiming, I'm just simply saying that maybe some of these flaws are blown up just a tad. Yes her actions are questionable but in the end, things were resolved. Hopefully in the movie they do something to revive Ranka because I still have faith in her character and besides, Megumi Nakajima conveys that characters feelings so well. Megumi's singing is also another strong point that has labeled her an important character in the series at least in my opinion. |
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2008-12-13, 02:17 | Link #902 | |
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For your information, she got the most screentime AND focus out of all characters possible. However, most of them doesn't consist of her development, and after she got her development, she regressed because of how Kawamori want her to be "naive". Her character is a good archetype for development, however, one (or ten amount of episodes in this case) wrong step of stalled development and you will know how wrong it is.
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2008-12-13, 03:27 | Link #903 |
LOL'ing at t3h old bags
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Eh, I'll just wait for the movie to see if Kawamori really does something wonderful in Ranka's character development. Didn't Kawamori say that Ranka's character could've been polished better since he did get some complaints. If he didn't get some, I'm going to be one of them.
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2008-12-13, 03:42 | Link #904 | |
Catholic = Cat addiction?
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2008-12-13, 10:13 | Link #909 | |
Catholic = Cat addiction?
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Hey! That was supposed to be a surprise!
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2008-12-13, 10:15 | Link #910 | ||
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*Throws confettis* MY OTP BECOME CANON!!!!!! Tak, I await the good news after you get back from the cruising. Be happy! Quote:
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2008-12-13, 10:37 | Link #912 | |
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Do not blame the Ranka's bad development on other characters, especially since she got the most screen time out of all of them. Kawamori was focusing more on her character for the first 18 episodes, and yet nothing came out of it. Rather her Achilles heel was the love triangle that they tried to make. Her character was one that could not grow in that setting, also it was a waste of time, as the time they spent validating her as a candidate for the love triangle they could have been spent on her actual character. With Alto it seemed like just another to coddle her, just another person stunting her growth. In fact I was pissed when Ozma asked Alto to look after Ranka, because I believe that she should learn how to take care of herself, without the help of others. I hate the fact that she was coddled by everyone, She's 16 years old its time for her to grow up, make her own decisions in life, and receive the consequences of it. Its not the end that matters its the journey, and that journey was not a right one. That being said I hope that in the Movie she spends more time with Sheryl and Klan Klan if only for their independence to rub off on her. Especially Sheryl who would let her make her own decisions. |
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2008-12-13, 10:43 | Link #913 |
Lets be reality
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When you look at Ranka's development the amount of time she had shouldn't have been an issue period, Jomy and Keith from Towards the Terra got better development than Ranka in just their first arcs alone (4 eps both) than Ranka got through the this series.
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2008-12-13, 11:08 | Link #914 | |
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I feel Kawamori made his biggest mistake right there. Episode 12+ felt like they were trying to put up a convincing chemistry between Ranka and Alto with her childish innocence in check...but failed, especially considering the fans' response to Sheryl who showed more chemistry with Alto in three minutes than Ranka could in the whole series, all the while getting better character development. Ranka just wasn't working and people could feel it as they continued to watch Ranka-centric scenes (which has more than any of the other characters). Her character just felt so shallow, everything revolved around her and she relied on other people more than herself. To the point that she would base her decisions on others (Alto, Brera, etc.) In the end, much to most of the fandom's chagrin, she never grew up. If she did, it sure as hell didn't seem like she did. |
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2008-12-13, 19:18 | Link #915 | |
Alto x Ranka :)
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Now back on topic I would have to say that Ranka will be handled much better in the movie I believe, it seems to me that Kawamori does regret it (of course I'm not claiming that) and he is giving her another chance in whatever the next Macross Frontier projects are. |
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2008-12-13, 19:24 | Link #916 | |
Alto x Ranka :)
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2008-12-13, 20:52 | Link #917 | |
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No, we're not here to only answer those questions or give input on how to make Ranka's character better, at all. We're here to discuss her character, point.
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Please, don't try to dictate and assume for yourself what we can or can't talk about here. Please.
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2008-12-13, 21:37 | Link #918 | |
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Personally I believe that Macross Frontier would do better as an OAV than as a movie but that's just me. P.S.- I'm female |
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2008-12-13, 21:46 | Link #919 | |
Catholic = Cat addiction?
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Despite having said this countless times in the past, there are still others willing to somehow fabricate reasons to get her off the hook. Sorry, that simply won't do. - Tak
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2008-12-13, 22:25 | Link #920 | |
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Last time I checked, I was well within the boundaries of this thread. I merely elaborated on wisteria233's point on how the staff were more busy working on validating Ranka's participation in the love triangle than working on her character. Unfortunately, they could not get the chemistry right. In short, they failed which led to a double demise. On her chemistry with Alto and most especially her character development. Jesus Ranka Lee did not cut it. |
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