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2005-12-26, 20:33 | Link #42 |
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Rena lost her powers as Rad said in episode 1, why else would their attack be so successful on Windbloom's castle. Only way an Otome can lose her powers is if she had sex. Arika would indeed be her child. With Arika being Rena's daughter and Mashiro being a replacement all that leaves is Nina. This is from the information given so far. The flashback of Nina seeing Rena might be Rena placing Nina out of harm's way. She might've done that before saving Arika.
Where did this Rena being a princess stuff come from? Edit: Nevermind, you don't have a solid source. That's a pretty big assumption with so little information. Not out of the relm of possiblity. Mai was a princess and a Otome, why not Rena? But without solid proof still an assumption. |
2005-12-26, 20:44 | Link #43 | |
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For that matter, it hasn't been confirmed that Arika is Rena's daughter, we just assume it to be so based on all of the circumstantial evidence and her interactions with Sergey. For me, that's enough to say "Arika is Rena's daughter" for others it may not be so. Just like the precendent of sending noble girls to the academy is enough for me to speculate on the possibilty of Rena being nobility. If she was royalty, she'd have to be royalty from Windbloom because she is serving Windbloom royalty. It's established fact that you serve the country you are from. Whereas the rest of what I've said is merely speculation, but not assumption. - Kira |
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2005-12-26, 21:16 | Link #44 | |
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You're right there is too little information on who it is. Just because Rena lost her powers doesn't mean she had a child right? But with Arika calling her mother over and over and Wong saying that he knew her mother. With so little information given so far it is safe to say that she is her mother. There is a great likness between Arika and Rena. Even between Rena and Nina at times. |
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2005-12-26, 21:41 | Link #47 |
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_-_ Well, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying that that's probably what they meant.
If you weren't talking to me, then, I apologise for being snippity. I just hate it if I see something I say or write taken out of context. In the future, could you quote the person you're directing the comment at? If you use the quote button you get their name too... 's helpful so that self-righteous people like me don't think you were talking to us ^^; - Kira |
2005-12-26, 21:52 | Link #48 | |
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Granted there isn't anything in the show at this point that would disprove my theory, in fact I found another piece of evidence that would point to Rena possibly being a princess: Episode 2, Sergay has a flashback to when he was young, and watched Rena sing a the lullaby to 'Baby X', it's pretty obvious at this point that Rena was no longer an otome, not wearing the meister otome dress and having the meister gems stored in the necklace. If she wasn't an otome anymore why was she still at the castle? Having a powerless otome around isn't going to help the King any. It's very possible that the reason Rena was still there was more blood related then otome related If you think I'm full of it, prove me wrong, otherwise don't whine about it |
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2005-12-26, 22:44 | Link #50 |
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I dont think Nina can be the real princess. I mean, they know the queen's birthday is on sept. 7th. the odds of Nina's real birthday being on sept 7th is 1/365. we do know that once in her lifetime she did know Rena from that flashback scene.
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2005-12-26, 22:54 | Link #51 | |
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2005-12-26, 23:02 | Link #52 | |
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That's a good point and entirely possible. Another point could be that because she's no longer an otome, perhaps someone else was in charge of the safety of the true princess (whomever that is) and she was only in charge of her own daughter (whomever that is). - Kira |
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2005-12-27, 06:40 | Link #53 |
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Thing is, if all three of them have ties to the castle, and perhaps even are siblings, then why did we only se ONE baby in Sergay's flashback? We saw Rena and the former Queen... but only one baby. Of course, they may be at other places in the castle, but usually when you have kids, you tend to have them together most of the time. Ah, well, this doesn't prove anything of course. Maybe we are simply not meant to know their ties fully just yet, and hence, only one child was shown. It might even be Sergay's fault, for remembering the scene wrong. After all, the focus was not on the baby, but on Rena's boo- I mean, the necklace.
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2005-12-27, 12:16 | Link #55 |
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i voted Arika
i think that the former queen, witch does look a lot like Arika gave birth to her, Nina's mother was the queen's and king's otome but gave birth to a child, from who i dont know, this child is as for my believe Nina the baby in the basket could be Arika, or Nina.. i am not sure about that part now.. but maybe Arika as a baby was found by someone, who recognized her from the neclace, she became the foster 'grandmother' where she grew up, this person must have known the queen for some time now Mashiro-chan is actually no queen, but was made queen by some stupid people who wantd fame and fortune.. so Mashiro's birthday could infact be fake as well, if they want her to be queen she has to have the same birthday as well! but if Mashiro-chan would find out about this i am sure Arika would let her remain queen and keep this a secret, Arika's dream is to be Otome not queen, and Mashiro can be a great queen later on.. Nina as a baby got lost through everything that happened in the night Windbloom burned and grew up in the streets where sergey found her on that same day as Arika's and Mashiro's birthdays, witch is also the same birthday as Nina's mother they also said that Nina's real birthday was unknow, Sergey picked that day because it was the day that he first met Nina, Nina thought it was because it was of 'that woman's' birthday, by that she meant the picture in Sergey's book of the queen's Otome also doesnt that person in the flashback look a bit like Shizuru o.o *puts on anti-comment shield* this is not a real proofed gues, just what i think.. |
2005-12-28, 11:47 | Link #56 | |
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She asks, "Oh, is that the princess?" Not saying that Shizuru is 'the' princess but she could be a sister or something to that princess or is a princess herself. Okok. It's 1247am and I'm talking nonsense Please forgive me. |
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2005-12-28, 13:10 | Link #57 |
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But I'm concern about one comment.
Wat does Rado when he said "So this is all the elegant Blue Jewel of Heaven can do after she loses the power of an Otome?" The loss of power is because Rena give birth to a child or is it because of the Sapphire of Heaven is with the baby that she puts in the "basket"(could I say it's a basket?)? |
2005-12-28, 13:18 | Link #58 | |
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Evidence: A. Sergy's flashback said the attack on the castle came when the King's otome retire - Thats obviously a reference to Rena. B. How would Rado know Rena doesn't have the gem anymore?
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2005-12-28, 14:59 | Link #59 |
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He has cyber-enhanced visual aids inside his helmet. ^^
Naw, more likely it was one of those 'hush-hush' rumors that got out to the wrong people (Schwartz), thus the attack happened at a very critical time for Windbloom. Since the Otome wasn't active at the time, and because of the stupid treaty, no help came from Gaurderobe and a Princess who's the heir to an immense power was lost. For some reason, the Meister Otome jewels and the Sapphire of Heaven are very compatible. I myself have questions moreso about that than anything else...^^ |
2005-12-28, 15:17 | Link #60 | |
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