2010-02-15, 10:19 | Link #9301 |
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Similar in conception to the SAZ, Suzaku's administration could be used as a model for other colonies depending on how successful it is. Even apart from that, though, the second huge paragraph in my post talks about why logistically it wouldn't make sense for Britannia to make EU/CF territories it conquered into Areas.
I'm also pretty sure the EU isn't exactly modelled after the EU in our world, given Code Geass's alternative history and all. If I've got it right, Britannia's exodus from Europe basically took all of Europe's royal/noble families and the institution of monarchy in general along with it. Charles' comment from S1 also suggests some sort of uniform/universal democracy. I'm not certain it'd be all that accurate to assume it is similar to the EU in our world (also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I wasn't aware that our European Union had a military component? Okay, so I've never familiarized myself with world politics or current events to any real extent, but I thought the EU was exclusively a trade union). |
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their's does but the EU isn't a single entity in the CG world they talk about its nations (France, Poland, Italy) as separate nations repeatedly
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2010-02-15, 13:33 | Link #9304 |
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Besides, the Britannian MO is to look down on Numbers. And you say that the defending armies deserved what they got? Nothing personal meant, but you know, you should be a comedian.
Edit: Not to mention that my point about Kirihara and the others still stands in light of Suzaku's direction in R2, especially since he was still a death seeker. In other words, he was looking for fulfilling himself rather than working for the common good. Last edited by azul120; 2010-02-15 at 13:56. |
2010-02-15, 14:13 | Link #9305 |
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The panzers were no match for the Lancelot, Suzaku knew this and told them they could surrender. The EU commanders should've been aware of the capabilities of the Rounds' machines. Had they been so, Suzaku's request would not have seemed as ridiculous...
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PEOPLE WHO FIGHT TO DEFEND THEIR HOMES AND FAMILIES DON'T SURRENDER !!! why would they surrendering is something you do to avoid dying because you want to live if surrendering also destroys the things you live FOR, then its not an option
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2010-02-15, 14:25 | Link #9308 | |
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2010-02-15, 14:55 | Link #9310 | |
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what he gave them is a chance to surrender and condemn their loved ones to a life of being treated like shit by their new britannian overlords which might SEEM like "more than they would get from someone else" until you remember that before suzaku shows up, they are WINNING which DOES make it his fault for their decision suzaku doesn't "give them a chance to surrender" rather then simply be killed suzaku is the one who FORCES them into this position where they have to choose between the two options he's the only reason why they ended up losing the battle if he didn't step in, britannia's invading forces would have LOST and while they are fighting for their countries he can't even claim THAT much
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His own decisions, however, are. If I decide to fight for a power-hungry Empire, for whatever reasons, then I'm responsible for the obvious consequences. Quote:
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Actually, I think morbosfist said all that needs to be said on Suzaku's understanding of "justice".
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2010-02-15, 15:02 | Link #9312 |
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He can offer the chance to surrender midway through the battle when they see his capabilities instead of showing up anouncing they should surrender now. But I doubt the conqueree would surrender because that means giving up on there love ones.
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he can NOT TAKE PART in the battle to begin wiht
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The fact is that Suzaku went to battle. He can go into battle even though he as no right into it because he can only gain. Telling the enemy to surrender (even though I would seriously doubt they would) midway through battle is more logical to save more lives and gives him a slightly better standing.
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Suzaku was part of the Britannian armed forces, and as such he can partake in battle. Him killing all those people ended the battle earlier and ultimately saved lives on both sides.
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he's not going to GET any better standings, because he's doing something he shouldn't be doing in the first place you don't get points off for killing people because you were NICE about it Quote:
i mean he could and SHOULD have chosen NOT to fight in it saving britannian invaders is not "saving lives", and since he just ended up killing the defending forces, he condemned the civilain population to britannian occupation letting britannia bleed itself dry against as many fronts as possible is a better choice, since it makes them more likely to give up suzaku helping britannia conquer other nations is not excusable especially since he doesn't even have a nationalist excuse for it since britannian is not his country and he cant even claim ignorance people like gino who are pro-britannia because they we're born there and never had to experience first hand what its like to be under its occupation can at least claim that much suzaku KNOWS what its like to be under britannian occupation, and yet forces that same fate on others there is no excuse for it
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aside, of course, from bradly having an actual REASON to fight (since britannia is his country)
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