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[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Plant42

We still don't know about that yet, the details that have been revealed for now is it's name 『The Star of Bethlehem』

And for translation of Vol.22 Preview

『The Star of Bethlehem』 a project which 'Fianma of the right' plan are finally put into operation.
What's really is a project which is said to 「save」 not only christians, but all mankind......!?

Star of Bethlehem?! Holy crap! Is Fiamma doing what I think he's doing?

[Miraluka]

I thought the same I wonder if this plan has the goal of making a god or a being higher than god.

[surerman]

Originally Posted by Plant42

We still don't know about that yet, the details that have been revealed for now is it's name 『The Star of Bethlehem』

And for translation of Vol.22 Preview

『The Star of Bethlehem』 a project which 'Fianma of the right' plan are finally put into operation.
What's really is a project which is said to 「save」 not only christians, but all mankind......!?

yuck!not this things again.... save the world with Christian or Magic something, Holy something and bla bla bla
why they can't learn? are human out side-this wall world-become so dumb?*stare at the author*

1st there's no way to save mankind from other mankind especially the whole of them. Human it's self is a bane to this planet and it's own kind, the only way to save mankind is by massacred them all (which we-Killer's- like to do)

2nd religion can't save mankind especially the one with Kill-able God, neither magic, or Holy-something. In real world, some magic artifact said to make the bearer bulletproof, destroyed by sniper rifle not so long ago, along with it's wielder ofcourse

3rd World run in so complicated system, save one may be destroyed others. It's not that simple task to save mankind

hm?didn't understand what I'm trying to say?, well neither do I

[Nya~n]

and we have a winner! an atheist expressing his opinion in a forum about a story depicting a world whose magic draws inspiration from religion!

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Originally Posted by Suzuku

A few more images from the novel.

Spoiler for More vol 21 pics:

Accelerator looks so cool! ><!! I wonder how they happened to run into each other there. Hamazura looks scared as hell.

Eagerly awaiting more scans of images and spoilers to come!

[KiraYamatoFan]

Originally Posted by Suzuku

A few more images from the novel.

Spoiler for More vol 21 pics:

Well, Imouto really is the specialist from the armory wherever the party goes.

Accelerator looks badass as usual.

It seems, Misaka Worst really wants to get back in action and kick ass from her looks.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by yukirosuzuka

Accelerator looks so cool! ><!! I wonder how they happened to run into each other there. Hamazura looks scared as hell.

Eagerly awaiting more scans of images and spoilers to come!

well what do you expect from Shiage. It's obvious he would be scared. Accelerator did cut up shiage's car ceiling just to talk to the guy. Accelerator could just talk on the side of the car but the guy cut it open up to talk to shiage.

[Endscape]

About that Index with 6 wings thing, how accurate is that?

I've been thinking, wings are for people that have angelic/divine attributes, which so far are only angels/ espers. I wondered if a magician can reach that level. Stiyl said that Index with the 103,000 volumes can become a magician god, right, so does that mean that magician god is equal to an esper's 'awakened' state?

[Suzuku]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

I'm not sure about teleportation or bolt cutter because I don't know the details on the plan. But it's been hinted that his the type of guy that it's not pure evil but not pure good. His the type that would do anything to do his task. Even if he dirtied his hands in the process.

btw I can't find vol 21 in share. still no luck on other sites too. I wonder when will the scans come out. Plus the person I know who can provide lots of raw for light novels aren't been visit the forum since june or is it july starts.

I'm getting worried on when will a scan would come out.

The volume hasn't been released yet. :/

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

I thought the same I wonder if this plan has the goal of making a god or a being higher than god.

Wasn't it already stated that that is the purpose of God's Right Seat?

[Karna]

Originally Posted by Phibrizzo

I would be dammed for life if after this arc fiama goes to the kamijou faction.

So what people make up the Kamijou faction? I can think of a number of characters off the top of my head, but I don't think I know all the people that are in Touma's group.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Star of Bethlehem?! Holy crap! Is Fiamma doing what I think he's doing?

And....

Touma---->Melchior
Accelerator---->Gaspar
Shiage---->Balthasar.

OMG! They are the "magi"!!!!

Originally Posted by Endscape

About that Index with 6 wings thing, how accurate is that?

I've been thinking, wings are for people that have angelic/divine attributes, which so far are only angels/ espers. I wondered if a magician can reach that level. Stiyl said that Index with the 103,000 volumes can become a magician god, right, so does that mean that magician god is equal to an esper's 'awakened' state?

That may be true, just think about Aurrelus, he is almost a magic god and is stalked by several magic organizations because his vast knowledge about magic. Now think of Index who has all 103 000 grimoires.

Originally Posted by Suzuku

Wasn't it already stated that that is the purpose of God's Right Seat?

Yes, but is just a step.

Originally Posted by FOURTAILNARUTO

So what people make up the Kamijou faction? I can think of a number of characters off the top of my head, but I don't think I know all the people that are in Touma's group.

Almost every faction in the magic side thinks "Kamijou Touma has been gathering powerful characters to his side and then forming a faction", even Lessar thinks of this as a fact.

[tsunade666]

esper's awakened state is the same as saints taping the power of the divine. But as for index she's not magician god but more like demon god. It's possible if she's in john pen's mode though I'm still not sure about the 6. But I just heard of the crimson wings of pendex when she's rampaging inside the necesarius HQ.

The volume isn't release yet? though if I remember it right it should be out on august 10 but their's been copies I saw or rather spoiler pictures are already out on the net. That's why I assume that it's been release already. And aren't we talking about vol 21 already?.....

Kamijou faction.................... if I'm saying meaning about it it's more like a collaboration of lots of organization that's been centered on touma. If it would be a sole person then that's only misaka. She's the only one that's been alone and not a member of any organization even if she's from the science side. Even if Unabara did say that he got the 103 000 diabolic books as his side. Index is originally from necesarius. The others are also a member of their own organization that's been allied with touma. For science side. Aisa and Komoe sensei, Kuroko from judgment and the imaginary sector's Kazakiri. Theres the sisters is a whole organization itself together with LO. For necesarius it's index, styl, kanzaki, tsuchimikado, Tatemi, Itsuwa, the amakusa, Ursula, Anieze, Lucia, Angelene, Sherry, Oriana, Laura. Then their is the England royal family's Villiand and their is the knight leader and New Light's Lessar. The russian doctrine has Sasha. The current war leads on Touma allying with Aqua and even if Vent deny it.

To make it simple the so called Kamijou faction is Touma as a center then other allies of touma or people who'd allied with Touma.

EDIT: Lessar thinks that way but from my point of view she's also a member of it

[pkmntrainer7]

Here are a couple more illustrations.

Spoiler for Volume 21:

[MeisterBabylon]

1. Theory has it that the original Star of Beth was a hypernova in Andromeda.

2. Theory has it that Mankind is best saved by destruction.

3. Theory has it that Fiamma's plan will backfire, causing the sun to almost go hypernova, until Touma and the other Wise men punch the lights out of her.

4. Theory has it that Fiamma may join the Touma faction.

5. Conclusion: We are ultimately all damned for life, because there was no Star to bleach us from the cosmos, and the other earlier proposition.

[stillmissing]

I haven't been able to read much about the volume, but from what I understand

Spoiler for vol 21:

The Star of Bethlehem is a flying city/fortress that Fiamma summons in this volume. Gabriel appears from the Star of Bethlehem and flies out to begin its assault. Apparently by the end of the novel a nuclear launch is about to be carried out on the star of Bethlehem with several characters rushing to stop it.

Also, unless I've read some spoilers incorrectly, Touma is currently aboard the Star of Bethlehem.

[shmaster]

I have to come in and say, Aqua is badass. He probably is the only character who manages to get more badass despite becoming weaker.
Seriosuly, can he gets upgrade into the 4th main character??

[Suzuku]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

esper's awakened state is the same as saints taping the power of the divine. But as for index she's not magician god but more like demon god. It's possible if she's in john pen's mode though I'm still not sure about the 6. But I just heard of the crimson wings of pendex when she's rampaging inside the necesarius HQ.

The volume isn't release yet? though if I remember it right it should be out on august 10 but their's been copies I saw or rather spoiler pictures are already out on the net. That's why I assume that it's been release already. And aren't we talking about vol 21 already?.....

Those are just from people who managed to get their hands on early copies or took pictures in the back of a bookstore that has it in stock.

More volume 21 info:

Spoiler for Vol 21 info:

- Hamazura ran into Aqua who destroyed the mercenary base, saw magic, and advanced toward Elizarina's(sp?) confederation.
- Accelerator, who had already arrived at Elizarina's confederation, was inside and facing the gunfire of spies. And in the course of things, he went and helped to destroy all the other spies within. He then met Hamazura.
- Accelerator improved his view of himself from "evil" on a "good/evil" scale to one that was a bit more Touma-ish(?)--relying purely on his inner drive and emotions that bubbled forth from his heart, forging on with his head held high.
>Accelerator has a role model. :3
- 瀧壺, finally, and the foreign powers were all being treated at the hospital for Elizarina's independece confederation.
- Accelerator apologized to the foreign powers, and they beseeched him to join forces. Though their tongues were tipped with poison, the foreign powers still formed a united front.
- When Touma advanced towards the right side of the battlefield, Academy City's forces had already attacked. Halfway through the battle, the ground beneath Touma, as well as all the remnants (relics?) of Christianity throughout the world, got sucked up into the air, with the Demon King's city (?) "Bethlehem's Star" appearing.
>wat
- From the city flew the Archangel Gabriel whose body was 2m long but whose wings spanned hundreds of meters. He began to attack Academy City's forces.
- Mikoto's aircraft was under attack, but she used her abilities to safely land. (Oh, she safely landed after having dropped 3000m) She met #10777 who was nearby.
- 瀧壺's problem was that using magic for the time being was okay, but afterwards it'd start flashing. After finding out about the bioweapons, because he'd received many favors from the Russians, he figured that he'd go stop them at the nuclear missile base.
>wat

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by pkmntrainer7

Spoiler for Volume 21:

UWAAAAA!!!!!!!! Laura is so damn hot!!!! can I have her added on my waifu? though I still like lessar and itsuwa but damn. Look at that picture.

[Suzuku]

More 21 info:

Spoiler for Moar info:

- Kanzaki vs. Archangel. However, she retreated, as rescue operations took priority. Then, surface-to-air missiles attacked the Demon King's fortress.
- Touma and Sasha who were both on the Demon King's fortress happened to run into each other and were deemed targets by the fortress. In a critical moment, Hyouka appeared to save them.
- Archangel vs. artificial angel. They raced along the ground, as the target was a piece of parchment in Accelerator's hand.
- Accelerator and Hyouka vs. Archangel.
- Aqua absorbed the Archangel's power. Afterwards, Touma's right hand destroyed the spirit transfer(?). Then, Accelerator and Hyouka cut the Archangel up.
- Hamazura, who had headed on towards the nuclear base, came upon a powerless Aqua who had no intention to keep on living (and some other stuff that I don't know how to translate) and scolded him.
>The fuck?
Too lazy to try to translate the rest in its entirety.
- Something about fighting Touma to proceed with the Prosecute=Bethlehem plan.
- When he (presumably Hamazura) got close to the nuclear base, there was suddenly an explosion in the air, and from the dust appeared Mugino... [moonspeak moonspeak AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH]
- [Too many words, too lazy. Has something to do with Stiyl vs. Pendex]
- Finding out about the plan to launch a nuclear missile, Mikoto and #10777 decided to set out.

[Phibrizzo]

Woah Laura is scary.... to scary why do I feel this or next volume she would show us some of that hidden dragon amough magicians.