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That being said, there were times it felt like in Pani Poni Dash, that the characters become secondary to the segments. Or something like that, I'm not sure how to explain it, plus I'm remembering wrong. As for Nichijou, I've read about 17 or so chapters of it. It's definitely different in feel than past Kyo-Ani series. Then again, it's not like K-ON! and Lucky Star were the same exact experience either. Well, in the end what matters to me most is the fact that with the TV confirmation, I'll have a series to look forward to this Spring. Perhaps even more depending on how I feel.
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2011-02-18, 18:04 | Link #66 | |
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2011-02-18, 18:37 | Link #67 |
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That's some very good animation in a lot of places in that trailer. Interesting to look at visually, although I wonder if I'll be able to enjoy it. Gave the manga a try not so long ago and didn't find it particularly funny. Then again, K-ON! wasn't stellar in manga format either, but I could enjoy the anime a fair bit due to all the care Kyoto put into it. Lots and lots of funny little animation details you could pick up while watching, which is always the major catch in KyoAni shows for me (as of late, at least, seeing as I'm not too big on the 4koma comedies thing).
Now, on the other hand, what is the music on that trailer, haha. It's got a very weird effect in that I was almost closing my eyelids by the end of it, haha.
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2011-02-18, 19:56 | Link #69 |
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Hmm ... must admit that this one has me curious. The preview clips looked interesting.... Now I don't mind K-On myself, but I also liked Seitokai no Ichizon....
Maybe I will look at some of the manga chapters....
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2011-02-18, 20:07 | Link #70 | |
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Also, am I the only one thinking the cat looks a bit like Jiji from "Kiki's Delivery Service"? The trailer makes me think I should give this show a try. After that, it all depends on what the actual episodes are like. |
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2011-02-18, 22:07 | Link #71 |
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I did a little test and ran this trailer the first time with the sound intact and it faired surprisingly well, coming off as whimsical. The second time I watched it without the trailer music and it came across as a show targeted towards very young mostly female children. The characters all pretty much look like stock moe archtypes (you've got the glasses girl, the hyper girl, the girl that makes a face like XD etc). Even though I know it's from totally separate and unrelated source material I can't help but be given the impression that Lucky Star and K-On were thrown into a blender and this this was the result. Could anyone have expected anything else? I'll let others be the judge of that.
Art style looks pretty unimpressive though. I don't know what other people judge to be top quality animation, but this has the look of something that was made on a tight budget by my standards. One thing I will say though is that a girl with a key on her back is definitely a type of moe that I have never seen before. Wind-up girl moe? You know, people said that the characters in K-On looked blobby to which I pretty much agree, but I'm going to actually say that the character design for this show makes the characters from K-On look proportional to regular humans by comparison. Every character I saw in that trailer has this weird combination of a stocky build and a head that resembles the shape of a potato chip. I kind of had to throw that out there. |
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2011-02-19, 06:22 | Link #73 | |
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Other than that, though, proceed!
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2011-02-19, 09:39 | Link #74 | |
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The whole trailer was filled with lots of great background (character) animation and superb character acting. As is typical with Kyoani works there were also tons of inbetweens and fantastic attential to detail, particularly in regards to facial expressions. I didn't think they did anything too interesting as far as layouts go, but there was some interesting photography work. Out of the entire PV though, one cut really stood out to me. That cut being the balancing game played by the two girls in the train from 00:54 to 01:01. I counted no less than five layers in that cut dedicated to the backgrounds alone. And they needed all those layers in order to create the incredibly well done parallax scroll effect. And of course there were the two layers dedicated to the characters which were nearly as impressive as the backgrounds. Great expressions on both, fantastic timing on the drawings and just overall good movement. Now why would Kyoani spend so much time and money on the backgrounds in a cut in which the background isn't even the focus of the shot? Why did they decide to invest so much effort creating the parallax scroll effect when they could have done a single layer background so much more easily. In fact, they could have simply have had the train windowless and eliminated the issue of scenery altogether. That most certainly seems like the "cheap" thing to do. But they didn't go for the cheap and easy option and instead challenged themselves. That ambition and drive towards animation is present in all their works and is why Kyoani is highly regarded for the quality of their animation |
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2011-02-19, 14:52 | Link #76 | |
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There's a few sequences that aren't just static images and where's there's some complex motion, I don't really see that as special so much as.....normal. Though sometimes you wouldn't know it seeing how phoned in a lot of the animation for school based shows can be. |
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As for the last part, if you don't see that as "special", there's nothing I can do. I can safely say that shows which are able to have animation as good as what's shown in that Nichijou trailer aren't the norm in the industry -- but the exception, as unfortunate as that might be. And even if they were, in my world, at least, not being the "best" doesn't make it "bad". The fact there exists shows with better animation does not make Nichijou look any worse. And while we're at it, before you try to tag me (and anyone else who might just enjoy animation and is interested in the subject) with the "blind Kyoto Animation fanboy sticker", which, from what I gather was your main intent with such an absurd comeback as that monopoly one, no, this doesn't mean the exception is limited to Kyoto Animation. The only difference here is that since Kyoto usually runs a lot of in-staffers, the production quality of their series is constant, and as such they have built themselves a very well deserved reputation regarding this matter. But that doesn't mean every other studio isn't capable of good animation, especially seeing as key animators as a whole work as freelancers. So, in the end, it's just a matter of hiring talented people. J.C Staff has been doing it a lot lately with Hironori Tanaka, who's done scenes for Ookami, Merry, Toradora, among others. Or Genichirou Abe, who's usually associated to SHAFT series due to his work in Bakemonogatari, Soremachi and Pani Poni Dash!. Even Naruto Shippuuden - which I'm sure a lot of people would turn away in disgust by the simple mention of the name - has been pulling out lots and lots of episodes with fantastic animation. You'd be amazed at how many talented key animators worked on the show lately. Hiroyuki Yamashita, Norio Matsumoto, even Shingo Yamashita. So, yeah, basically, my point is that I never even mentioned such a thing as a monopoly and I have no idea where you got that impression from. I'm simply someone who's interested in actual animation and am able to recognize that Kyoto does a fairly good job with it most of the time. And that alone is a reason that compels me to watch Nichijou, even if I'm sure that I won't be very interested in the plot or the characters. Cheers.
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Kyoto Animation's quality can 'never' be bad and that's one of their main 'characteristic' and even a brand value. It's mainly because hata yoko-san a lot of other staffs in Kyoani have perfectionist traits (though, I wonder if she changed some of her dictatorship position). This is kind of bad for Kyoani in someway, since budget becomes unusually high due to those. That's one of the reason producers do not particularly favour Kyoto Animation for some media-mix.
On a side-note, Ishihara Tatsuya is known for his gentle personality and prioritisation over teamwork. Thus, I wonder how much Ishidate Taichi and Nishiya Futoshi will influence this work. I consider Nichijou as one of the most difficult original source to animate (exception: for SHAFT it is easy as gum.), so... could Kyoani make this into another success? Quote:
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