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2010-09-30, 11:38 | Link #2405 | |
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True, but he definitely winged some stuff. He didn't intend Goku and Piccolo to be aliens to begin with, which is pretty major. |
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2010-09-30, 12:46 | Link #2408 |
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I watched it but I really don't recall it ever being stated that Piccolo was THE DEVIL just because he was the evil half of the guardian of the Earth. If you can point me to where it was indeed stated, then sure. Otherwise it's merely a conjecture of yours, since I don't think you're capable of reading Toriyama's mind and knowing what his intentions at the time were.
And even if Piccolo were THE DEVIL, since when does the devil have to be from the Earth? Hell is another world altogether in Dragonball, so technically he'd still be an alien regardless. |
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2010-09-30, 13:50 | Link #2411 | |
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I'm sure the arcs were pre-planned but certainly not the entire story. The kienzan not working on the Cell scene wasn't in the manga... therefore it's not canon!
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2010-09-30, 17:48 | Link #2412 |
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But that's just a dub thing. He says nothing of sort in the original. Actually, many things are not really explained in the original (both manga and anime). I think it's because Torishama didn't really care about his plot making perfect sense. I don't really get why the fans (and the dub) want everything to make sense. That's nonsense (horrible pun intended )
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2010-09-30, 21:30 | Link #2414 | |
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2010-10-01, 01:41 | Link #2417 |
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Actually, the arcs weren't entirely pre-planned either. There's a lot of indications that the Freeza-arc was originally going to have a rather different ending, for instance. (Mostly in the fact that the ending to it is really just a huge string of Deus Ex Machinas... Piccolo somehow doesn't die, Kaio's plan to revive the Grand Elder was extremely far-fetched, and we clearly see Goku screaming in agony in the last moments of Planet Namek, yet later it's revealed that he apparently found one of the Ginyu Special Corps' space-pods and flew away in it.) Also, notice how in the manga, Trunks initially refers to the artificial humans who will come in 3 years as #19 and #20, yet not too long after, it's revealed that #20 is actually Dr. Gero, and that the true threat comes from #17 and #18... After which point the ones from the future are also #17 and #18, all of a sudden. (Though I heard Kai fixed this by having him just not say their names in his talk with Goku, and if this is true, I suppose I should give Toei some credit for filling in a pretty blatant plot-hole.)
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2010-10-01, 03:03 | Link #2418 |
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Hm yeah, there is a rather big case of 'Let's not get in each other's way' in DBZ. Which is a shame, team battles would have been extremely fun to watch. There's a lot of plotholes in dbz, and a lot of unexplained crap, it's true.
Although I think Frieza was a changeling.
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