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2009-10-16, 06:29 | Link #4362 | |
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If we have a few lawyers or judges around who can clarify, that would be good. Is the judge a parish judge? This rule seems to indicate so. There look to be some Louisiana laws devoted specifically for this group (and other parish officials) in terms of what they can and cannot do. Unfortunately (and we'll need someone with access to the legal precedents to verify), I actually cannot find anything via the Louisiana State Legislature's site on discrimination through marriage. There are discrimination laws in place for age, genetics and even sickle-cell anemia, but not about inter-racial marriage. This and this simply define a "marriage" and a "covenant marriage" as being between a man and a woman. I could be using the wrong key word(s), though; some give back pages of hits. Technically, though, a state-level judge for Louisiana is supposed to unreservedly obey the laws of the state. He is also not supposed to be swayed by others' opinions. If his parish disagrees, then he won't be re-elected for the next term. If the regulators think he's wrong, they can ask the LA Supreme Court to investigate - and remove the judge if necessary - then. On the whole, this looks to be the start of a PR black eye for the LA judicial system, and even if the lawsuits and letters don't go anywhere, maybe the state legislature will start something.
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2009-10-16, 07:42 | Link #4363 |
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If this marriage would bring religious conflicts between the famlies of the couple, then I would be worried (although I'd still stick to the couple's side and liase with the families). If the woman were muslim, I'd be concerned about her family considering Islam doesn't allow its women to marry men of another religion (men are though so long as it's abrahamic). But to refute a marriage between a black man and white woman (or is it the other way around?) is just stupid. Those kinds of marriages happen all the time all over the world. Obama's mom is white, just to bring an obvious example. So this is just stupid. I agree with the couple filing a discrimination complaint. The judge deserves a boot to the head and a boot out of his position.
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2009-10-16, 07:51 | Link #4364 | ||
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2009-10-16, 08:28 | Link #4367 |
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I guess it is time to share something as a racial mongrel.
Though I see that the judge is seen as racist, I do understand how he feels with his judgment. My father and maternal grandmother are half-half, and they received tremendous discrimination from their individual communities. And I do not know if it is a coincidence or what, but out of the few mix-race friends I have, only one came from an intact family. The judge may have sound wrong, but pragmatically speaking, he may be right. While you guys are hammering the man, or are speaking for the couple, it is best to think of the kids because in a failed relationship, they suffer the most. For those of you living in Asia, you might know Takeshi Kaneshiro. He is half-Jap, and incidentally, born AFTER WWII where anti-Jap sentiments still run thanks to "corrunism". He is still treated as trash and bullied in school because of his heritage. Regarding his usage of terms, can anyone name me anything better sounding than "black"? Do we call them Afro? Subhuman? I don't think the word matters as long as the point is brought straight across. Such arguments often make hypocrites out of everyone involved as critics scramble for a "moral high ground" to consolidate their seriously flawed stands. Mix breed may be the politically correct term for mongrel, but it doesn't hide the fact that they are still treated like scum of the earth. Before we mend the problems of racism and interracial marriage, it is better that we project an image of harmony between races to avoid giving others that benefit of doubt, no matter how small that may be. P.S I must admit, for a legally trained person, he sucks at arguing because he could have quoted something else other than letting blacks use his bathroom and such, opening up to an attack from the masses when emotions run high. But I give him credit for his frankness.
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What the judge has done now is incite the anger of black people for being discriminating toward them. So much for harmony. There are more than just plenty of mixed marriages all over the world: black and white, chinese and white, and the list goes on. You see it in the UK, and you even see it in Italy. Yet, there isn't any discrimination or hard feelings toward the offspring of these marriages. If so many people can do it, why can't this man do it? If he really does have concern for the children, then that means he's ill-informed and bases his arguments on outdated information. I'm basing my argument on what I see and hear with my own eyes and ears, not just what I believe in. |
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2009-10-16, 08:51 | Link #4369 | |
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How "mixed races" are treated depends on what part of the planet you're standing on. They aren't the "scum of the earth" in much of the US, Canada, or Britain, etc. They're so prevalent as to make retrogrades like this judge almost seem quaint.
When my wife (japanese-american) and I (euro-31flavors-american) started dating in the 1970s, we got some negative feedback from odd places. My mother (which surprised the heck out of me because she had raised me "liberally" but turned out to be a closet racist/conservative unlike my dad)... a random aunt that said "they make good wives I hear" when seeing my future wife (obviously 3rd gen Texans make "good wives", duh ). The only other flack we got was the horrified glare of the occasional Japanese businessman when we'd shop in the Houston Galleria back in the 80s. Hasn't been a problem since. My older son has been pulled over in small towns for "driving while Hispanic" (oh, the officer would make some shit up and scuttle back to their cars embarrassed but it was pretty obvious - especially when his 'white' girlfriend would be asked if she was okay. They'd walk up and speak in Spanish and he'd answer in Japanese and English). The whole concept of "mixed races" is basically bull**** to anyone who has some science under their belt. Every human being is a "mixed" race - you just have to go back a few generations (more if there's been some regional isolation) and then you have to define race successfully (good luck with that). There's a bit more substance to worrying about "mixed cultures" or "mixed religions" because there you're having to deal with the intersection of possibly incompatible ideologies (like the Islam-anyone.else example). Nonetheless, the STATE should NOT be interfering in such personal decisions. The STATE's job is only to record the transaction for legal purposes. As an employee of the STATE, the judge failed to do his job.
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this isn't historical, this crap still goes on and it is 2 way street. Whites discriminate against Blacks and Blacks discriminated back and not just against Whites but also other Blacks whose color is on the lighter side.
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Besides, if we're going to forbid all the... demographics that tend to fail their marriages, let's start with everyone under the age of 30. |
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Baby OK after train hits stroller in Australia
Just saw this on the news, Holy Shi....! That was sure lucky.
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CNN has a video. Check it out.
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