2012-05-25, 02:53 | Link #102 |
Custom User Title
|
I was just wondering, since Kaido may be the target of the new born alliance, if we actually know anything about that man except for his name and position. Wasn't it stated somewhen, that he fought Whitebeard on even terms, or am I confusing some facts?
__________________
|
2012-05-25, 04:46 | Link #104 | |
Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
|
Quote:
But you only used the term 'to best' and not 'to defeat', so I guess we're on the same boat. |
|
2012-05-25, 09:37 | Link #106 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
I do recall being slightly disappointed about Zoro's decision to train under Mihawk before the skip, but I've long since accepted it. Besides, as BDK pointed out, it'll actually make things more interesting if this means that Mihawk will be toppled by a swordsman other than Zoro before they have a proper rematch. It actually reminds me of many moons ago when people were speculating left and right about how epic a Luffy vs. Ace/Whitebeard match would be, but then the events leading up to the war happened, and..... well, you all know the rest.
To go back on topic, I'm getting more curious about what ol' Kinemon's up to. We haven't seen him these last few chapters since he ran off to find his torso, and we STILL have zero clue as to what became of his son. Did CC turn Momonosuke into a giant crackhead like those other kids, or did he convert him into some grotesque beast like that dragon or slime.....? |
2012-05-25, 09:47 | Link #107 | ||
lost ronin
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: in the recesses of my convoluted mind...
|
Quote:
Quote:
this type of practice was not rare in eastern martial arts. some techniques were so secret that they didn't just teach them to anyone. these chosen pupils were usually required to defeat or overcome their masters as their final test. of course nowadays, they are not so secretive and selfish anymore, even wudang is now being taught to western pupils when years ago they wouldn't even teach women. no wonder most of these secret martial arts techniques have long vanished. those that did survive are the ones that changed with the times. zoro training under mihawke doesn't cheapen anything, let alone the inevitable battle between the two of them. it just made things a little more interesting, that's all. zoro intrigued mihawke enough for the latter to allow him to live. mihawke could have killed zoro but he didn't. instead, he challenged him to become stronger, and come and face him again someday. as for mihawke's reasons for teaching zoro, i believe he did it on a whim and maybe out of curiosity. perhaps he was curious to see how powerful zoro would become at his tutelage and if zoro could best him using the skills he taught him himself. knowing how competitive he is, i bet he thought of it as an interesting challenge.
__________________
Last edited by ronin myael; 2012-05-25 at 10:29. |
||
2012-05-25, 10:15 | Link #108 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
|
Quote:
I too was rather surprised that Luffy accepted Law's offer. Will be interesting how things will turn out. I wish I liked Law that much that I'd be completely hyped about that fact, but in reality I'm rather worried that Law will betray them. Also I wonder what the body switching was there for? Just for the lols? And I wonder how Smoker and Tashigi are going to get their bodies back. I'm pretty sure THEY won't team up with Luffy and Law. And I don't seem them getting their bodies back by force either and I don't want to see Smoker being saved because Luffy pities him again Also the mystery about Zoro's defeat hasn't been solved yet. And I wonder how they're going to beat the slime
__________________
|
|
2012-05-25, 10:23 | Link #109 | |
Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
|
Quote:
A condition set by the master is different from a challenge demanded by the student. If Mihawk wants Zoro to challenge him later on, then I have no problem with that. But I also assume that there will be an alternative candidate as Zoro's final opponent. |
|
2012-05-25, 10:40 | Link #110 | |
lost ronin
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: in the recesses of my convoluted mind...
|
Quote:
i think mihawke would welcome the challenge. he knew full well that it was zoro's intention to defeat him and claim his title. but even with that knowledge he still trained him. i think the guy is just waiting for someone who would truly be a challenge to him. i bet he's bored out of his mind most of the time. he knows he could defeat almost anyone he encounters. i wouldn't be surprised if he traveled all over the world just to look for someone else to defeat.
__________________
|
|
2012-05-25, 11:17 | Link #111 | |
Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
|
Quote:
|
|
2012-05-26, 04:53 | Link #112 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: U.S.
|
I don't know about that. My recollection was that Vista was relatively scratch free in the summit war and successfully intercept/interrupted Mihawk's advance. I don't remember Mihawk just brush away Vista like nothing.
That being said, Mihawk is still the strongest swordsman in OP until Oda reveal otherwise in future chapters. Wano might have swordsman rivals Mihawk but unless we know more, Mihawk is still the strongest swordsman in OP world.
__________________
|
2012-05-26, 08:44 | Link #113 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
|
Neither Mihawk nor Vista were going all out in their brief duel. And it's clear that the former held the latter in high regard by saying only a fool wouldn't know his name. For all intents and purposes, that clash was a stalemate.
Further reasoning as to why I feel Shiliew will beat Mihawk later on is because of BB's DF hunting spree. BB is going for the best DFs, and naturally that would mean that the phoenix and diamond abilities would be on his hit list. It's reasonable to infer that the remnants of the WB pirates will run into the BB pirates and have a showdown. Of course, they'll end up losing/getting killed and that's when BB will seize the opportunity to steal Marco's and Jozu's abilities. Whether he'll assimilate those into himself is something to consider/ponder about, but if not, there's always the option of giving those abilities to his crewmates. Personally, I see the diamond ability being perfect for Shiliew. During the war at Marineford, Mihawk failed to even lay a scratch on Jozu's diamond body which may be an indication that he can't cut diamond. And if that's the case, that's all the more reason for him to lose to Shiliew should they encounter one another. Seeing as how Zoro and Shiliew are going to inevitably clash much later on, Zoro defeating Shiliew would undoubtedly make the former the world's strongest swordsman (and by extension, surpass Mihawk: his mentor).
__________________
|
2012-05-26, 11:50 | Link #114 | ||
Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
|
Quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7RQVSbxezA Quote:
|
||
2012-05-26, 14:48 | Link #115 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 34
|
I like this theory, especially this line in particular. I remember Zoro (recalling from the anime) mentioned after defeating Mr 1, he'll next cut down diamond. A nice foreshadow and seems like a neat way for Zoro to achieve his dream.
|
2012-05-26, 16:16 | Link #116 | |
Ultra noob
Join Date: Dec 2004
|
Quote:
|
|
2012-05-26, 16:59 | Link #117 | |
Absolute Haruhist!
Artist
Join Date: Mar 2006
Age: 36
|
Quote:
With his powerful Armament Haki stacked over his diamond body, he can withstand Mihawk's sword even if Mihawk did use Haki.
__________________
|
|
2012-05-26, 17:39 | Link #118 |
Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
|
There is something everyone has been overlooking, I believe. Before the time skip there were four Yonkou, but that doesn't mean that there are four now. We know BB is one now, but there could be a fifth which we don't know about. There are many unknowns.
|
|
|