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ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-24, 01:18

However Tempest, if we are going to play that card, it's the same as sending Gunnery Sergeant Hartman to train local boyscout. A teacher need more than skill and knowledge, they also need compassion and understanding of children's psychology. I assume Chifuyu has passed a test in that regard.... barely.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-24, 01:26

Does that mean any rep can be a teacher? Hmmmmmmm...

StratoSpear · 2012-03-24, 01:29

I can see where Zero's heading at with his point.

While yes, potential candidates like ace pilots/reps have the skills... They may not be able to impart their knowledge to others just as well. They'll require experience in teaching people to go with their skills.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-24, 01:29

Potentially can, again, assuming the subject is I.S. related. Also, see Stratos' point above.

Tempest35 · 2012-03-24, 01:32

Well it's a good thing that the boyscouts aren't being trained in M16s and the like...

But the IS trainees are learning about a high-end, state-of-the-art armored power suit that tipped the balance of power the world over. If they weren't being trained strictly and thoroughly, a lot of 'o.0' would be happening all over the place too.

I always thought that Maya provided the 'approachable' side to the teaching instruction while Chifuyu provided...everything else. Like a 'good cop, bad cop' dynamic, but between teachers.

Can learn it the easy n gentle way, or you can learn it the Orimura Training-From-Hell way.

I understand that not every good/great practitioner of something will end up a good teacher. For some who have a gift to instantly pick up any move they see, they probably don't have the ability to translate what they've learned in a way that others can interpret and understand for themselves.

I have a feeling that Chifuyu can only get really involved if she's training an elite-lvl pilot. Everyone else falls behind her curve and that's the slack that Maya has to pick up...

which sucks for her.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-24, 01:39

I also wonder if there's an age limit to being a teacher. I can see elders having a hard time piloting, even if there are old teachers in real life.

To anybody who can watch youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-qKACbnkg

Think it's possible for regular (Non pilot) ops in PT to act like the guys in black?

Eratas123 · 2012-03-24, 02:26

Is there a "Make the IS blow up button" apart from removing the core?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-24, 02:44

Well, there's always that button, but do you want to sacrifice the core or something? Tatenashi speculates that Autumn remove the core THEN blow up the frame. Implying that it could be done even if the core is intact.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-24, 02:53

You can remove the core at a seconds notice? Sounds like an easy exploited weakpoint.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-24, 02:58

Well.... dunno, I though it was her special ability or something, but someone (I forgot if it's you, Box or Blitz) said it can be done by anyone. If that's the case, then you're right that it's damn serious weakness.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-24, 03:07

WHere is the core, anyway? I don't see it anywhere.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-24, 03:13

Neither am I.

There's virtually no room to insert that because they have nothing covering their body besides the swimsuit.... ByakuShiki Setsura at least has a possible location in the torso armor, on the chest.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-24, 03:26

Is it possible the core isn't a physical object? If it is, maybe it's a data cd or something.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-24, 03:31

Well, assuming the core can turn smaller than it's physical size do (imagine golf ball turned into a tiny earring) that's not really farfetched.

But of course, there's always plot hole of why ByakuShiki disappear while Arachne didn't... maybe different mechanism?

Eratas123 · 2012-03-24, 03:35

What do you mean disappear?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-24, 03:40

ByakuShiki disappear when Autumn remove the Core, leaving Ichika totally helpless. And yet Autumn able to detonate the coreless frame. Again, it might be the different mechanism... or plot hole.

It couldn't be explained by shift-related matter (as I.S. in default configuration cannot be miniaturized) because Autumn herself is already achieved at the least first shift.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-24, 03:43

She removed his core? When did that happen?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-24, 03:47

Not explicitly happen in case of Arachne, Tatenashi assumed she did. And I knew no PT agents are stupid enough to sacrifice an I.S. core for their own safety. So my default impression is that she removed the core then self destruct the I.S.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-24, 03:51

Why did she want to kill Ichika, again?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-24, 03:53

Her main mission seems to stole his core, but I'm not sure about killing him, might check the novel again.

2012-03-24, 01:18	Link #27001
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	However Tempest, if we are going to play that card, it's the same as sending Gunnery Sergeant Hartman to train local boyscout. A teacher need more than skill and knowledge, they also need compassion and understanding of children's psychology. I assume Chifuyu has passed a test in that regard.... barely. __________________

2012-03-24, 01:26	Link #27002
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Does that mean any rep can be a teacher? Hmmmmmmm... __________________

2012-03-24, 01:29	Link #27003
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	I can see where Zero's heading at with his point. While yes, potential candidates like ace pilots/reps have the skills... They may not be able to impart their knowledge to others just as well. They'll require experience in teaching people to go with their skills. __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2012-03-24, 01:29	Link #27004
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Potentially can, again, assuming the subject is I.S. related. Also, see Stratos' point above. __________________

2012-03-24, 01:32	Link #27005
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	Well it's a good thing that the boyscouts aren't being trained in M16s and the like... But the IS trainees are learning about a high-end, state-of-the-art armored power suit that tipped the balance of power the world over. If they weren't being trained strictly and thoroughly, a lot of 'o.0' would be happening all over the place too. I always thought that Maya provided the 'approachable' side to the teaching instruction while Chifuyu provided...everything else. Like a 'good cop, bad cop' dynamic, but between teachers. Can learn it the easy n gentle way, or you can learn it the Orimura Training-From-Hell way. I understand that not every good/great practitioner of something will end up a good teacher. For some who have a gift to instantly pick up any move they see, they probably don't have the ability to translate what they've learned in a way that others can interpret and understand for themselves. I have a feeling that Chifuyu can only get really involved if she's training an elite-lvl pilot. Everyone else falls behind her curve and that's the slack that Maya has to pick up... which sucks for her. __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2012-03-24, 01:39	Link #27006
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	I also wonder if there's an age limit to being a teacher. I can see elders having a hard time piloting, even if there are old teachers in real life. To anybody who can watch youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-qKACbnkg Think it's possible for regular (Non pilot) ops in PT to act like the guys in black? __________________

2012-03-24, 02:26	Link #27007
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Is there a "Make the IS blow up button" apart from removing the core? __________________

2012-03-24, 02:44	Link #27008
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Well, there's always that button, but do you want to sacrifice the core or something? Tatenashi speculates that Autumn remove the core THEN blow up the frame. Implying that it could be done even if the core is intact. __________________

2012-03-24, 02:53	Link #27009
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	You can remove the core at a seconds notice? Sounds like an easy exploited weakpoint. __________________

2012-03-24, 02:58	Link #27010
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Well.... dunno, I though it was her special ability or something, but someone (I forgot if it's you, Box or Blitz) said it can be done by anyone. If that's the case, then you're right that it's damn serious weakness. __________________

2012-03-24, 03:07	Link #27011
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	WHere is the core, anyway? I don't see it anywhere. __________________

2012-03-24, 03:13	Link #27012
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Neither am I. There's virtually no room to insert that because they have nothing covering their body besides the swimsuit.... ByakuShiki Setsura at least has a possible location in the torso armor, on the chest. __________________

2012-03-24, 03:26	Link #27013
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Is it possible the core isn't a physical object? If it is, maybe it's a data cd or something. __________________

2012-03-24, 03:31	Link #27014
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Well, assuming the core can turn smaller than it's physical size do (imagine golf ball turned into a tiny earring) that's not really farfetched. But of course, there's always plot hole of why ByakuShiki disappear while Arachne didn't... maybe different mechanism? __________________

2012-03-24, 03:35	Link #27015
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	What do you mean disappear? __________________

2012-03-24, 03:40	Link #27016
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	ByakuShiki disappear when Autumn remove the Core, leaving Ichika totally helpless. And yet Autumn able to detonate the coreless frame. Again, it might be the different mechanism... or plot hole. It couldn't be explained by shift-related matter (as I.S. in default configuration cannot be miniaturized) because Autumn herself is already achieved at the least first shift. __________________

2012-03-24, 03:43	Link #27017
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	She removed his core? When did that happen? __________________

2012-03-24, 03:47	Link #27018
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Not explicitly happen in case of Arachne, Tatenashi assumed she did. And I knew no PT agents are stupid enough to sacrifice an I.S. core for their own safety. So my default impression is that she removed the core then self destruct the I.S. __________________

2012-03-24, 03:51	Link #27019
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Why did she want to kill Ichika, again? __________________

2012-03-24, 03:53	Link #27020
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Her main mission seems to stole his core, but I'm not sure about killing him, might check the novel again. __________________