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minhtam1638 · 2008-07-16, 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon0lim

Why does it seem like I am the only person in this thread who feels that Kagami deserves 3 necklaces? O o

Personally, I feel that if Kagami does end up winning 3 necklaces, she deserves it no matter what the outcome. However, nobody wants to see the same people win again. Remember when Seishi said that not wanting to see the same people win again is the "cancer of Saimoe"? Well, in this league, that's what makes it real interesting - who can make the distance, and who can't.

Wontaek's right, however. We need the Negima base back.

Crisu · 2008-07-16, 09:58

Maybe next year's schedule shouldn't be so random. If we really want balance and fairness, we can make sure that each girl has a per-Period schedule of as equal weight as possible.

What I mean is, based on preseason rankings, for a given girl:

Aquamarine 1 - vs. someone in ranks 57-64
Aquamarine 2 - vs. someone in ranks 50-56
Aquamarine 3 - vs. someone in ranks 43-49
Aquamarine 4 - vs. someone in ranks 36-42
Aquamarine 5 - vs. someone in ranks 29-35
Aquamarine 6 - vs. someone in ranks 22-28
Aquamarine 7 - vs. someone in ranks 15-21
Aquamarine 8 - vs. someone in ranks 8-14
Aquamarine 9 - vs. someone in ranks 1-7

...but it doesn't have to be that strict or that patternized. We'll swap it around so there are some high-rank-difference battles in each of the 9 Rounds per Period. And my point is just to try to prevent a super-easy schedule like Kagami's and to make the chances better for girls to win a necklace.

But I'm glad people are looking at Kotomi as Kagami's major obstacle this Period. Every girl should have a major obstacle (as well as a few "easy" matches). This thread talked about how J Saimoe can be more exciting because it's essentially a single-elimination tournament where every win matters. In ISML you can take a few losses and still be okay, and it's harder to campaign for someone constantly over a few months rather than the "whenever it's her turn again" rotation of going through Saimoe's bracket.

So if we gave girls a 'balanced' schedule like my example, perhaps supporters could campaign lightly during the "lower rank matches" and concentrate on other girls but then come back for the "high rank match" whenever it shows up.

Preseason ranks don't predict the outcome of the whole tournament either, as Suiseiseki started at first place but really has done little and is now in 34th. So it's not like we're dooming characters like Chikaru and Tamaki from the start or giving Haruhi and Tomoyo the easy way out each period.

minhtam1638 · 2008-07-16, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crisu

Maybe next year's schedule shouldn't be so random. If we really want balance and fairness, we can make sure that each girl has a per-Period schedule of as equal weight as possible.

What I mean is, based on preseason rankings, for a given girl:

Aquamarine 1 - vs. someone in ranks 57-64
Aquamarine 2 - vs. someone in ranks 50-56
Aquamarine 3 - vs. someone in ranks 43-49
Aquamarine 4 - vs. someone in ranks 36-42
Aquamarine 5 - vs. someone in ranks 29-35
Aquamarine 6 - vs. someone in ranks 22-28
Aquamarine 7 - vs. someone in ranks 15-21
Aquamarine 8 - vs. someone in ranks 8-14
Aquamarine 9 - vs. someone in ranks 1-7

...but it doesn't have to be that strict or that patternized. We'll swap it around so there are some high-rank-difference battles in each of the 9 Rounds per Period. And my point is just to try to prevent a super-easy schedule like Kagami's and to make the chances better for girls to win a necklace.

But I'm glad people are looking at Kotomi as Kagami's major obstacle this Period. Every girl should have a major obstacle (as well as a few "easy" matches). This thread talked about how J Saimoe can be more exciting because it's essentially a single-elimination tournament where every win matters. In ISML you can take a few losses and still be okay, and it's harder to campaign for someone constantly over a few months rather than the "whenever it's her turn again" rotation of going through Saimoe's bracket.

So if we gave girls a 'balanced' schedule like my example, perhaps supporters could campaign lightly during the "lower rank matches" and concentrate on other girls but then come back for the "high rank match" whenever it shows up.

Preseason ranks don't predict the outcome of the whole tournament either, as Suiseiseki started at first place but really has done little and is now in 34th. So it's not like we're dooming characters like Chikaru and Tamaki from the start or giving Haruhi and Tomoyo the easy way out each period.

The one flaw in this situation is the wildcards of Saimoe Japan, Korea Best Moe, and the preliminary nominations, so we may still have this problem, but we can lessen the impact by setting up the schedule for at least the people we know are coming back.

seemmeriast · 2008-07-16, 10:39

Spoiler for Ruby 2 Votes:

OceanBlue · 2008-07-16, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fynal_Fyre

And actually, I like the "few thousand" bit, if just for emphasis's sake.

If you feel that the emphasis is needed and actually adds to the point of the sentence, then add it. Otherwise, it's superfluous and should be taken out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fynal_Fyre

-The Anime Saimoe Tournament of Japan has lately been accepting votes internationally, although votes are weighted toward Japanese voters.

Rephrase to: "As of late, the Anime Saimoe Tournament of Japan HAS been accepting international votes. However, the majority of the voting power still lies in the hands of the Japanese (voters?)"

Eh... progressive tenses always mess me up.
Not sure what, "As of late" means [It sounds like it means, "until now."], but grammatically, I think it's correct.
Still, the second sentence is still unclear about, "voting power." In my opinion, anyways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fynal_Fyre

Feel free to correct me here OB.

Feel free to correct me as well. I'm relatively new to proofreading/editing, so if I have mistakes, please correct them.

Cytrus · 2008-07-16, 12:19

I see you're having fun with this, so I don't want to intrude. Just a quick comment, as project editor and all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanBlue

If you feel that the emphasis is needed and actually adds to the point of the sentence, then add it. Otherwise, it's superfluous and should be taken out.

Good judgment. Even if going for emphasis, thousands of competitors is stronger than the ambiguous "a few thousand".

Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanBlue

Eh... progressive tenses always mess me up.
Not sure what, "As of late" means [It sounds like it means, "until now."], but grammatically, I think it's correct.
Still, the second sentence is still unclear about, "voting power." In my opinion, anyways.

"As of late" = "recently" in this case. Final Fyre's rephrasing seems clear enough for me. If you want, "However, the number of non-Japanese votes remains small compared to that of Japanese votes." is another, rather direct, option.

Seishi · 2008-07-16, 13:09

Sadly, I was not around when the Negima fanbase actually dominated, so I've had to see the characters get pounded. I'm not sure I agree if Kagami "deserves" a necklace, but if the answer is "no" then it has nothing to do with her winning two already and everything to do with matchups, yeah. And, of course, there are always those rabid Lucky Star fans who are just chomping at the bit...

PhantomRay · 2008-07-16, 13:12

Seeing Kanon 2006 now i've had a change of hearts of my top girls, here it is:

In order, top 5 favorites:
1) Fate ( Feito-chan ftw )
2) Mai Kawasumi ( Fresh new girl yayz! to bad she doesn't have the best score )
3) Shana ( yep, this might sound strange that she is now 3rd favorite! )
4) Haruhi Suzumiya
5) Kyou Fujibayashi ( yep, this might sound strange that she is now 5th favorite! She was 1st a period )

PS: Need to improve my avatar a little bit.

minhtam1638 · 2008-07-16, 13:27

Alright, second draft for Saimoe Japan FAQ.

EDIT: Oh, my god, I didn't notice that it was my birthday today. Until my mom told me.

Seishi · 2008-07-16, 13:31

I saw your age turn 19! Happy birthday!

FiREwing · 2008-07-16, 13:32

Nooooo Seishi!! Suprise Partyyyyy!!!

D:

Happy Birthday Minty!

PhantomRay · 2008-07-16, 13:37

Happy Birthday!
May all your deepest wishes come true !!!

Oh... and may the MOE be whit you !

Chiharu-chan · 2008-07-16, 13:40

Happy birthday!

And like Phantom said, may the moe be with you. XDDD

melange · 2008-07-16, 13:40

Last 16 tests...

Adding "last 16 matches if current standings hold" to Space Opera for great despair...

Eater of All · 2008-07-16, 13:41

Happy birthday Minhtam!

How 'bout we all do our best to make Kagami lose as a birthday present

FiREwing · 2008-07-16, 13:41

Everyone should use their sprites as their avvies. DO IT NAO.

PhantomRay · 2008-07-16, 13:41

I just remembered I had my 19th aniversary 2 days ago.

Lol Minht your like 2 days younger than me.

Game8910 · 2008-07-16, 13:43

damn minhtam is a month older than me >_> well happy b-day

KholdStare · 2008-07-16, 13:47

Yay, let's turn this into a happy birthday thread! Happy birthday!

Ichigo-Sora · 2008-07-16, 13:48

Happy Birthday Minhtam! ^^

2008-07-16, 09:58	Link #11042
Crisu ISML Kaichō IT Support Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gulfport, MS Age: 39	Maybe next year's schedule shouldn't be so random. If we really want balance and fairness, we can make sure that each girl has a per-Period schedule of as equal weight as possible. What I mean is, based on preseason rankings, for a given girl: Aquamarine 1 - vs. someone in ranks 57-64 Aquamarine 2 - vs. someone in ranks 50-56 Aquamarine 3 - vs. someone in ranks 43-49 Aquamarine 4 - vs. someone in ranks 36-42 Aquamarine 5 - vs. someone in ranks 29-35 Aquamarine 6 - vs. someone in ranks 22-28 Aquamarine 7 - vs. someone in ranks 15-21 Aquamarine 8 - vs. someone in ranks 8-14 Aquamarine 9 - vs. someone in ranks 1-7 ...but it doesn't have to be that strict or that patternized. We'll swap it around so there are some high-rank-difference battles in each of the 9 Rounds per Period. And my point is just to try to prevent a super-easy schedule like Kagami's and to make the chances better for girls to win a necklace. But I'm glad people are looking at Kotomi as Kagami's major obstacle this Period. Every girl should have a major obstacle (as well as a few "easy" matches). This thread talked about how J Saimoe can be more exciting because it's essentially a single-elimination tournament where every win matters. In ISML you can take a few losses and still be okay, and it's harder to campaign for someone constantly over a few months rather than the "whenever it's her turn again" rotation of going through Saimoe's bracket. So if we gave girls a 'balanced' schedule like my example, perhaps supporters could campaign lightly during the "lower rank matches" and concentrate on other girls but then come back for the "high rank match" whenever it shows up. Preseason ranks don't predict the outcome of the whole tournament either, as Suiseiseki started at first place but really has done little and is now in 34th. So it's not like we're dooming characters like Chikaru and Tamaki from the start or giving Haruhi and Tomoyo the easy way out each period. __________________ MyAnimeList, OTL Fansubs, Project-iM@S, International Saimoe League

2008-07-16, 10:39	Link #11044
seemmeriast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Spoiler for Ruby 2 Votes: ARENA 1 Nanoha Takamachi (NA) C.C. (CG) Abstain from vote ARENA 2 Nagisa Furukawa (CL) Horo (SW) Abstain from vote ARENA 3 Saber (FSN) Mai Kawasumi (KN) Abstain from vote ARENA 4 Ayu Tsukimiya (KN) Fate Testarossa (NA) Abstain from vote ARENA 5 Maria (HnG) Yuki Nagato (SHnY) Abstain from vote ARENA 6 Nayuki Minase (KN) Shana (SnS) Abstain from vote ARENA 7 Mikuru Asahina (SHnY) Sayuri Kurata (KN) Abstain from vote ARENA 8 Fuko Ibuki (CL) Tomoyo Sakagami (CL) Abstain from vote ARENA 9 Hanyuu Furude (HNKN) Rin Tosaka (FSN) Abstain from vote ARENA 10 Louise Francoise (ZnT) Kyou Fujibayashi (CL) Abstain from vote ARENA 11 Konata Izumi (LS) Shiori Misaka (KN) Abstain from vote ARENA 12 Eri Sawachika (SR) Suiseiseki (RM) Abstain from vote ARENA 13 Hinagiku Katsura (HnG) Setsuna Sakurazaki (NG) Abstain from vote ARENA 14 Rena Ryuguu (HNKN) Tsuruya (SHnY) Abstain from vote ARENA 15 Matsuri Shihou (Sola) Teletha Testarossa (FMP) Abstain from vote ARENA 16 Vita (NA) Yue Ayase (NG) Abstain from vote ARENA 17 Konoka Konoe (NG) Nodoka Miyazaki (NG) Abstain from vote ARENA 18 Ayumu Nishizawa (HnG) Ryou Fujibayashi (CL) Abstain from vote ARENA 19 Eruruu (U) Evangeline McDowell (NG) Abstain from vote ARENA 20 Kyon's Sister (SHnY) Kagami Hiiragi (LS) Abstain from vote ARENA 21 Sakura Kinomoto (CS) Sakura Matou (FSN) Abstain from vote ARENA 22 Shinku (RM) Rika Furude (HNKN) Abstain from vote ARENA 23 Aruruu (U) Kiri Komori (SZS) Abstain from vote ARENA 24 Souseiseki (RM) Kotomi Ichinose (CL) Abstain from vote ARENA 25 Alice Carroll (ARIA) Chiaki Minami (M) Abstain from vote ARENA 26 Tamao Suzumi (SP) Suigintou (RM) Abstain from vote ARENA 27 Yuno (HS) Sakura-hime (TC) Abstain from vote ARENA 28 Haruhi Suzumiya (SHnY) Tamaki Kousaka (TH) Abstain from vote ARENA 29 Chikaru Minamoto (SP) Tsukasa Hiiragi (LS) Abstain from vote ARENA 30 Tamaki Kawazoe (BB) Touka (U) Abstain from vote ARENA 31 Nagi Sanzen'in (HnG) Konomi Yuzuhara (TH) Abstain from vote ARENA 32 Mion Sonozaki (HNKN) Yurie Hitotsubashi (KM) Abstain from vote

2008-07-16, 13:09	Link #11047
Seishi Kholdy's Slave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BC, Canada Age: 39	Sadly, I was not around when the Negima fanbase actually dominated, so I've had to see the characters get pounded. I'm not sure I agree if Kagami "deserves" a necklace, but if the answer is "no" then it has nothing to do with her winning two already and everything to do with matchups, yeah. And, of course, there are always those rabid Lucky Star fans who are just chomping at the bit... __________________

2008-07-16, 13:31	Link #11050
Seishi Kholdy's Slave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BC, Canada Age: 39	I saw your age turn 19! Happy birthday! __________________

2008-07-16, 13:40	Link #11054
melange Reset, reset, reset... Join Date: Jan 2006	Last 16 tests... Adding "last 16 matches if current standings hold" to Space Opera for great despair... __________________ "Every man has two countries, his own and France" - Attributed to Thomas Jefferson

2008-07-16, 13:12	Link #11048
PhantomRay ~Shoop~Da~Whoop~ Join Date: Jun 2008	Seeing Kanon 2006 now i've had a change of hearts of my top girls, here it is: In order, top 5 favorites: 1) Fate ( Feito-chan ftw ) 2) Mai Kawasumi ( Fresh new girl yayz! to bad she doesn't have the best score ) 3) Shana ( yep, this might sound strange that she is now 3rd favorite! ) 4) Haruhi Suzumiya 5) Kyou Fujibayashi ( yep, this might sound strange that she is now 5th favorite! She was 1st a period ) PS: Need to improve my avatar a little bit.

2008-07-16, 13:27	Link #11049
minhtam1638 Missing In Action Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bridgeport, CT Age: 34	Alright, second draft for Saimoe Japan FAQ. EDIT: Oh, my god, I didn't notice that it was my birthday today. Until my mom told me.

2008-07-16, 13:32	Link #11051
FiREwing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Nooooo Seishi!! Suprise Partyyyyy!!! D: Happy Birthday Minty!

2008-07-16, 13:37	Link #11052
PhantomRay ~Shoop~Da~Whoop~ Join Date: Jun 2008	Happy Birthday! May all your deepest wishes come true !!! Oh... and may the MOE be whit you !

2008-07-16, 13:40	Link #11053
Chiharu-chan Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Georgia Age: 32	Happy birthday! And like Phantom said, may the moe be with you. XDDD

2008-07-16, 13:41	Link #11055
Eater of All NOM Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Outside the Asylum	Happy birthday Minhtam! How 'bout we all do our best to make Kagami lose as a birthday present __________________

2008-07-16, 13:41	Link #11056
FiREwing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Everyone should use their sprites as their avvies. DO IT NAO.

2008-07-16, 13:41	Link #11057
PhantomRay ~Shoop~Da~Whoop~ Join Date: Jun 2008	I just remembered I had my 19th aniversary 2 days ago. Lol Minht your like 2 days younger than me.

2008-07-16, 13:43	Link #11058
Game8910 Shanacon/Ariafag Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: a room full of despair Age: 34	damn minhtam is a month older than me >_> well happy b-day __________________ HEY GUYS BE NICE AND VISIT MY BLOG WILL YA? Latest Update: Spring 2011 Impressions (part1) Spring 2011 Impressions (part2)

2008-07-16, 13:47	Link #11059
KholdStare ISML Technical Staff Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 35	Yay, let's turn this into a happy birthday thread! Happy birthday! __________________ Kholdy's MAL, ISML Chat, Saimoe Blog, Saimoe Wiki