2009-07-18, 14:12 | Link #661 | |
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Maybe. [I really doubt she has another outfit, but that might be as well...hadn't thought about that idea]
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2009-07-18, 14:37 | Link #662 | |
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I believe that as a crime, 殺人罪 does imply intent, but in general use, 殺人 does not necessarily do so (although it often does). If there are any Japanese legal experts here who can confirm or deny this, that would be helpful.
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2009-07-18, 14:47 | Link #663 | |
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On the other hand, that could be important. If to an ordinary Japanese person, "killing another" and "murder" are the same thing, then the entire line of distinction might be fruitless because as far as he's concerned as writer, "killing someone" = "murder." Even though that's not true to a western legal sensibility. In that case, saying "soandso did not commit murder" is equivalent to saying "soandso didn't kill anyone." But we really have no way of knowing which is intended until he reveals the semantic trick (or explains things in a manner which entirely discredits those who "did not commit murder" as killers of any sort). EDIT: I should of course note that, as far as I know, there is no theory present for any killing in the series thus far which is reliant on my semantic distinction. A simpler theory or two explains the deaths of everyone in ep1 and ep3 without relying on the people who are said to have not committed murder. So this is mostly a question of translation that I consider interesting. And even if it IS true, limiting them to killings that aren't murder means you have to imagine a scenario in which somebody killed without murderous intent. It winds up just complicating things. But it is interesting, and I wonder if it could lead to a theory that he didn't anticipate anyone thinking up (himself included). EDIT EDIT: A good source of information on this might be Death Note, as the manga/series investigates the distinction between "killing those who deserve to die" and murder, and justifications for the same. I don't know any Japanese lawyers, but I'm sure there's tons of textual examples in the Death Note manga of distinct phrasings for murder as a legal construct of intentional homicide. |
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2009-07-19, 12:00 | Link #666 | |
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人殺し is somewhat in the middle as it is the only word that does not necessarily describe intentional murder, but only the act of killing another or someone who killed another...at least that's what I learned. So you could draw a line between a 殺人犯 and a 人殺し, as far as that the second does not have to have intenion, but the former has, implied by the 犯 which can also be a verb 犯す, which means 'to commit' or 'to violate/to become guilty'. So there could be a way of playing with words here, as in XYは殺人犯ではない (XY is not a muderer) but XYは人殺しである (XY is a killer). This COULD be the small line helping here...we would only have to know a possible way of some of the victims being killed 'accidentaly'.
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2009-07-19, 12:51 | Link #667 | |
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I also think the shadows are too blurry to really tell who each one is. Natsuhi being the shadow in that one screenshot might make sense, but I can't see Rika in that one screenshot you showed, also there's more to that one as in the OP the shadow grows bigger, looking less like Rika. And the other figure to the front doesn't look like Rena at all to me, first off there are white and pink "ribbons" coming from it, which lead me to believe that she's the new girl... since the new girl wears white and pink ribbons and it pretty much matches up. Also after that scene, the new girl is shown with her eyes glowing. I don't think Higurashi will have much to do with the mystery itself, maybe Bern will mention it or something. But I doubt that it'll have a huge part of the actual story, the story of Umineko already has so much to work with, it doesn't really need to borrow anything from Higurashi it seems. A witch that looks like another Higurashi character would be nice, but I'm not gonna bet on it.
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2009-07-19, 12:54 | Link #668 |
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About the side thingy and why Natsuhi and Krauss are on the servants side...
Maho_Momo if that side shows the recidences where is Jessica? My guess is....those are the people involved in Kinzo's death and hiding it
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2009-07-19, 13:00 | Link #669 |
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The kids/cousins are always shown separately (in just about every OP excluding the absolute first one that wasn't really used and was only shown as an extra but basically only introduces the characters so it doesn't really count since it didn't really show scenes from the story anyway.), otherwise Battler, George, and Maria would be shown with the adult guests as well. ^^;
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2009-07-19, 13:06 | Link #671 | |
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Gohda also isn't in that scene in the OP, I could imagine him being left out of the loop while the rest of the servants, Natsuhi, and Krauss all know what's going on more so.
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