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Dark Wing · 2011-09-29, 16:17

I think its time bring this thread back to life with the final season on the way and all.

Hooves · 2011-09-29, 20:30

The trailer alone can give some speculations off. But when things start breaking brick walls, then this thread might get popular

Elf song · 2011-09-30, 04:40

Wow, the last page was 2 years and 2 months ago.

Tatsumi Saiga · 2011-10-01, 08:46

Since I couldn't help myself and read some spoilers for this season (atleast as far as the LN go, assuming they will be largely the same), I guess I'll be posting in here.

As much as I really enjoy this show, I am baffled.

Spoiler for shana:

I want to watch this while it's airing, but I don't know if I'll be able to bring myself to.

Marcus H. · 2011-10-01, 09:13

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I cannot for the life of me figure out how they will plausibly explain Yuji going from end of season 2 Yuji to what he apparently becomes...

Actually, they did already.
There was a teaser on Nico Nico, which showed a snippet of how they'll manage with the explanation.

Tatsumi Saiga · 2011-10-01, 09:26

No, I saw that, but the change in character/demeanor etc. is what I mean. I just mean I'm not exactly buying it.

Marcus H. · 2011-10-01, 09:36

The only thing we need to know is that Yuji has been hiding something from everyone, and from everyone I mean everyone, including us viewers. And that is his hidden conversations with the Snake of the Festival.

But honestly, I'd like to know the exact events from the novels.

Tatsumi Saiga · 2011-10-01, 11:27

Right, I guess that adds some value depending on the depth of the conversations.

It's so strange because after watching season 2 and seeing them completely backtrack on all the relationship development (which thoroughly pissed me off), I couldn't possibly imagine the 3rd season being harder to watch, but it looks like it might be.

Actually with the way that the 2nd season really haphazardly just kind of ended (no "i love you" from shana --- come on) I guess I'm not that surprised.

I'm excited though.

SkyFlames · 2011-10-01, 17:26

Snake of Festival has been talking to Yuji on dreams all this time. I don't know all the conversations, but one of them is when Yuji doesn't know if leaving Misaki with Shana or staying. There he is questioned by a dark shadow that asks him 'What do you really want to do, Sakai Yuji?' then he wakes up.

Athena · 2011-10-01, 19:54

@SF Was that in the anime?

Marcus H. · 2011-10-01, 20:28

^ It's clear that it is in the novels only.

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no "i love you" from shana --- come on

That's the point. Yuji and Shana never had the chance to confess to each other with Yuji now discovering that he can save Shana from the entire conflict.

SkyFlames · 2011-10-01, 23:52

@KiRa

It's the Vol. 8 prologue. The center topic is actually if Sakai can or can't do anything to avoid all this Tomogara vs Flame Hazes battle, to which the shadow (Snake of Festival) answers that they can't do anything and that he is powerless. This kinda depress Yuji before he wakes up.

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...lume8_Prologue

Hooves · 2011-10-02, 01:22

Snake of the Festival (a.k.a SotF or Snake) occasionally talks to Yuji just like how SkyFlames' link posted. You know where this is going right?

Dark Wing · 2011-10-02, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Tatsumi Saiga

No, I saw that, but the change in character/demeanor etc. is what I mean. I just mean I'm not exactly buying it.

Now this is why I hate that the dream conversions yuji was haveing throughout the novel series was removed because people are reacting like this...

Hooves · 2011-10-02, 16:46

It would have been nice for J.C. Staff to give some hints on Yuji's development. So when he makes this appearance in season 3, people wont just easily say "wow this development is awkward..."

Dark Wing · 2011-10-02, 16:53

Yea but I also realize that they didn't know if this series would make it to this point during the first season but come on they could have done a little more to hint at it during season two.

Hooves · 2011-10-02, 16:54

Agree with you there

instead of all those filler episodes, atleast some hints in the fillers would have been nice. Heck, they could have placed it in Shana S maybe?

SkyFlames · 2011-10-02, 17:21

But wasn't this part of the novel still on writting process when Season II came out? I'm too lazy to check all the dates, but I think that the Season II ended before the author introduce Snake and the last plot.

Hooves · 2011-10-02, 17:24

Well, that's true that the novels was still in the writing when Season 2 was airing hence the need for some fillers. But the dreams were in volume 8, so they could have given some short 10-20 seconds to spare for them. That voice all together was anonymous to the novel readers, so they couldn't really tell who was talking to Yuji at the time.

SkyFlames · 2011-10-02, 17:55

Neither they knew if Yuji was actually speaking with someone or if it was a nightmare/dream or a reflect of his hidden feelings. It was all too confusing to risk themself to expose something that could be meaningless, in fact I think that the little prologue is actually the only conversation on the whole volume, so yeah, if you don't know that Snake is the one speaking, then you may not pay attention to that.

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2011-10-01, 17:26	Link #189
SkyFlames Silver, the Second Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Argentina Age: 28	Snake of Festival has been talking to Yuji on dreams all this time. I don't know all the conversations, but one of them is when Yuji doesn't know if leaving Misaki with Shana or staying. There he is questioned by a dark shadow that asks him 'What do you really want to do, Sakai Yuji?' then he wakes up. __________________

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2011-09-30, 04:40	Link #183
Elf song Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Wow, the last page was 2 years and 2 months ago.

2011-10-01, 09:26	Link #186
Tatsumi Saiga Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: London Age: 34	No, I saw that, but the change in character/demeanor etc. is what I mean. I just mean I'm not exactly buying it.

2011-10-01, 11:27	Link #188
Tatsumi Saiga Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: London Age: 34	Right, I guess that adds some value depending on the depth of the conversations. It's so strange because after watching season 2 and seeing them completely backtrack on all the relationship development (which thoroughly pissed me off), I couldn't possibly imagine the 3rd season being harder to watch, but it looks like it might be. Actually with the way that the 2nd season really haphazardly just kind of ended (no "i love you" from shana --- come on) I guess I'm not that surprised. I'm excited though.

2011-10-01, 23:52	Link #192
SkyFlames Silver, the Second Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Argentina Age: 28	@KiRa It's the Vol. 8 prologue. The center topic is actually if Sakai can or can't do anything to avoid all this Tomogara vs Flame Hazes battle, to which the shadow (Snake of Festival) answers that they can't do anything and that he is powerless. This kinda depress Yuji before he wakes up. http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...lume8_Prologue __________________

2011-10-02, 16:53	Link #196
Dark Wing Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Age: 38	Yea but I also realize that they didn't know if this series would make it to this point during the first season but come on they could have done a little more to hint at it during season two. __________________

2011-10-02, 17:21	Link #198
SkyFlames Silver, the Second Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Argentina Age: 28	But wasn't this part of the novel still on writting process when Season II came out? I'm too lazy to check all the dates, but I think that the Season II ended before the author introduce Snake and the last plot. __________________

2011-10-02, 17:55	Link #200
SkyFlames Silver, the Second Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Argentina Age: 28	Neither they knew if Yuji was actually speaking with someone or if it was a nightmare/dream or a reflect of his hidden feelings. It was all too confusing to risk themself to expose something that could be meaningless, in fact I think that the little prologue is actually the only conversation on the whole volume, so yeah, if you don't know that Snake is the one speaking, then you may not pay attention to that. __________________