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Tormenk · 2009-04-02, 12:57

Point taken, though I would say the possibility remains, if only for how Vivio came to be.

Keroko · 2009-04-02, 13:11

Problem is that Vivio was a recent product, and only fell into Jail's hands after the Numbers had been created.

Guernsey · 2009-04-02, 21:23

What are the darker aspects of Nanoha's personality?

Evil Rick · 2009-04-02, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Guernsey

What are the darker aspects of Nanoha's personality?

Apart of her usual way to make friends, I cannot notice any kind of "dark aspect"´or negative emotion on the character, in my opinion, this is bad, it makes the character a bit unreal.

I think that's the reason for why Fate is more popular

Sassy_Bread · 2009-04-02, 23:46

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Originally Posted by Guernsey

What are the darker aspects of Nanoha's personality?

Well, other than beating up people to make friends with them (which only works to some extent) and the almost over-hyped White Devil stuff, that's basically about it. It's almost unhuman, and yet she's pretty much loved.

Keroko · 2009-04-03, 01:33

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Originally Posted by Evil Rick

I think that's the reason for why Fate is more popular

I'm sorry... Fate has darker aspects in her personality? Darker aspects in her background story, sure, but personality?

Evil Rick · 2009-04-03, 02:09

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Originally Posted by Keroko

I'm sorry... Fate has darker aspects in her personality? Darker aspects in her background story, sure, but personality?

I just said that Fate was more popular than Nanoha because of the so "perfect" that Nanoha is in terms of personality and that Fate in personality is more human, not that Fate had darker aspects in her personality

Keroko · 2009-04-03, 02:13

And that's what's confusing me, as Fate is every bit as perfect as Nanoha.

Keroko · 2009-04-03, 02:41

Hmm, this sounds like an interesting topic for a discussion... mind if we take it to the Favorite Characters thread? That way we won't derail the Q&A.

Evil Rick · 2009-04-03, 02:45

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Hmm, this sounds like an interesting topic for a discussion... mind if we take it to the Favorite Characters thread? That way we won't derail the Q&A.

Be my guess "moving"

Rising Dragon · 2009-04-05, 04:07

In terms of voice acting, which is better in quality? Sub, or dub? I plan on watching the show, but don't know which version to watch.

Evil Rick · 2009-04-05, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

In terms of voice acting, which is better in quality? Sub, or dub? I plan on watching the show, but don't know which version to watch.

Well, obviously you'll hear the original voices on the sub (Nana Misuki is a good reason to whatch the sub) as for the dub, I can't tell you because from all the seasons of Nanoha I only watched 1 episode dub in english (season 1, episode 2) and my ears were not very pleaced.

Anh_Minh · 2009-04-05, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Keroko

I'm sorry... Fate has darker aspects in her personality? Darker aspects in her background story, sure, but personality?

Well, her relationship with her mother wasn't very healthy... Could she be some kind of submissive masochist?

Alavon · 2009-04-07, 19:50

I've been reading posts in the Favorite-Character Discussion thread (and others) and a question popped into mind:

Where was it mentioned that Nanoha was left alone while her father recovers in the hospital? Is this canon?

Lute · 2009-04-07, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Alavon

I've been reading posts in the Favorite-Character Discussion thread (and others) and a question popped into mind:

Where was it mentioned that Nanoha was left alone while her father recovers in the hospital? Is this canon?

I don't think her father ever stayed in a hospital.

Alavon · 2009-04-07, 20:42

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I don't think her father ever stayed in a hospital

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Are you saying it was true that Nanoha was left alone while her father recovered?

al103 · 2009-04-07, 21:54

It's very vague moment that can be interpreted in different ways. IMHO it's not true that she was left along, just they didn't have enough time for her and she herself tried to be as invisible as possible to not create additional problems.

PhoenixG · 2009-04-08, 00:09

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Originally Posted by Alavon

I've been reading posts in the Favorite-Character Discussion thread (and others) and a question popped into mind:

Where was it mentioned that Nanoha was left alone while her father recovers in the hospital? Is this canon?

It was in the first season. The exact episode slip me mind. Her mother and brother needed to take care of the shop, while her sister took care of their father.

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Originally Posted by Lute

I don't think her father ever stayed in a hospital.

Yes, he did.

And I agree with al103. It's not like they abandon her, they already have a hard time to on the shock and get the life back running

Avatar_notADV · 2009-04-08, 00:35

It's useful to appreciate that as an unusual element in Japanese upbringing, which normally concentrates on a very close connection between mother and child (the whole "amai" thing). Not only did Nanoha have working parents, but because of the situation, she had a lot more "alone" time than normal - and it made her strong and self-reliant. Of course, it helps that we're talking a pretty moderate dose here, as it's clear that by S1 Nanoha's family life is ideal, if not idyllic. A less caring family might have produced a very different, and much less well-adjusted, Nanoha.

Nanoha's dad did indeed spend some time in the hospital. It's part of the fork from Triangle Hearts, where he didn't survive.

9taileddemon · 2009-04-08, 00:52

I agree with al103 as well.

It wasn't like they were purposefully trying to leave her alone but due to the circumstances with their father injured, brother and mother attempting to keep the shop from falling apart, and the sister having to take care of the dad, she was left alone a lot.

Probably this bred a bit of her stuborness because she probably thought a lot of times, "if only I was older and stronger I could help out my family instead of just adding to the troubles." And so to lesser the trouble she herself caused she tried to blend into the background as much as possible. And trying to be invisible gives you a lot of time to think by yourself and makes you pretty damn lonely.

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Tormenk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gaf's Room	Point taken, though I would say the possibility remains, if only for how Vivio came to be. __________________ "Are you afraid of change? Or are you afraid to change?" "Wheel turns, river flows and life goes on." "Best way to kill a man, is to leave him alone." "Until you come, until we close our eyes."

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Guernsey The GAP Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	What are the darker aspects of Nanoha's personality? __________________

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	In terms of voice acting, which is better in quality? Sub, or dub? I plan on watching the show, but don't know which version to watch. __________________

2009-04-07, 19:50	Link #1194
Alavon Worshipper of Nanoha... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: In my imagination...	I've been reading posts in the Favorite-Character Discussion thread (and others) and a question popped into mind: Where was it mentioned that Nanoha was left alone while her father recovers in the hospital? Is this canon? __________________ My stories can be found here:http://www.fanfiction.net/~alavon Archaeology: The Most Misunderstood Profession

2009-04-07, 21:54	Link #1197
al103 Grumpy Russian bear Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Russia, Krasnoyarsk Age: 42	It's very vague moment that can be interpreted in different ways. IMHO it's not true that she was left along, just they didn't have enough time for her and she herself tried to be as invisible as possible to not create additional problems. __________________ Proud Nanoha/Yuno/Fate, Caro/Elio/Lutecia, Alto/Sheril/Ranka and Honor/Hamish/Emily shipper. Last one even canon. PS. Also Nanoha/job, Honor/job and Rein/Agito. PPS. Proud Athrun/Cagalli/Meyrin shipper.

2009-04-02, 13:11	Link #1182
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Problem is that Vivio was a recent product, and only fell into Jail's hands after the Numbers had been created.

2009-04-03, 02:13	Link #1188
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	And that's what's confusing me, as Fate is every bit as perfect as Nanoha.

2009-04-03, 02:41	Link #1189
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Hmm, this sounds like an interesting topic for a discussion... mind if we take it to the Favorite Characters thread? That way we won't derail the Q&A.

2009-04-08, 00:35	Link #1199
Avatar_notADV Once and Current Subber Join Date: Dec 2005	It's useful to appreciate that as an unusual element in Japanese upbringing, which normally concentrates on a very close connection between mother and child (the whole "amai" thing). Not only did Nanoha have working parents, but because of the situation, she had a lot more "alone" time than normal - and it made her strong and self-reliant. Of course, it helps that we're talking a pretty moderate dose here, as it's clear that by S1 Nanoha's family life is ideal, if not idyllic. A less caring family might have produced a very different, and much less well-adjusted, Nanoha. Nanoha's dad did indeed spend some time in the hospital. It's part of the fork from Triangle Hearts, where he didn't survive.

2009-04-08, 00:52	Link #1200
9taileddemon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The forbidden hegemony	I agree with al103 as well. It wasn't like they were purposefully trying to leave her alone but due to the circumstances with their father injured, brother and mother attempting to keep the shop from falling apart, and the sister having to take care of the dad, she was left alone a lot. Probably this bred a bit of her stuborness because she probably thought a lot of times, "if only I was older and stronger I could help out my family instead of just adding to the troubles." And so to lesser the trouble she herself caused she tried to blend into the background as much as possible. And trying to be invisible gives you a lot of time to think by yourself and makes you pretty damn lonely.