2013-07-02, 16:08 | Link #781 | |
Lazy and I know it
Join Date: May 2013
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2013-07-02, 23:57 | Link #782 | |
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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long boring explanation > spam magic like a boss > extend imajin > block all > lecture > punch > harem lol Congrats for thor who succeed broke this cycle lol I guess kamiyan vs birdy fiht just consist kamiyan lecture about fraulein feeling or whatever it is and lightning duo (biribiri n thor) get in the way and then they flee... Sure i will read it, this is my holiday and nothing to do anyway lol |
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2013-07-03, 00:06 | Link #783 |
We're Back
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Redgrave City
Age: 35
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Anything can be boring if you just list off point forms.
Accelerator throw things at Kakine -> Kakine throws things at Accelerator -> Kakine sunburn Accelerator -> Accelerator lol-troll-pwn Kakine You might as well just read baka Test, or stick to MF Bunko's various harem series.
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2013-07-03, 00:21 | Link #784 |
That one guy
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Maybe IS is more his speed?
I'm not sure about everyone here but I think the whole midfight spiels is interesting. it gives insight to what each side is fighting for. Though it could have been done via flashbacks or really long winded pre-confrontation events, it all has to be condensed in a novel or two. The mid-battle talks are basically where all their resolves clash which gives meaning to why they swing their fists as opposed to just watching people swing their fists around without really knowing why they are even fighting. It gives me a sense of which side I want to be on instead of just betting 20 on the winning side |
2013-07-03, 00:38 | Link #785 | |
We're Back
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One thing's for sure- it works better in text form than on visual media. These kinds of things are hard to pull off, unless you're KyoAni or Shaft who uses mad visuals to make long scenes entertaining. That's why I want to see whether they could pull it off for the Index movie since that isn't restricted by an original source.
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2013-07-03, 00:49 | Link #786 |
That one guy
Join Date: Nov 2011
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I think the only other anime where I felt like there were nicely executed build up is one piece. Though I do believe many would see it as long-winded and unnecessary. I find the final fights are far more satisfying once I hate the villain with all my heart due to past atrocities. In TAMNI it feels more like both sides have their own reasons and you can't judge which is morally above the other so easily. Sometimes even Touma's logic is skewed so you don't always cheer for him. I think its a charm of the series.
Volume 7 really shows this as for the most part he doesn't feel like the hero he used to be in the start of the series. But he's taken the steps to do his part. Well that might just be me. |
2013-07-03, 01:54 | Link #787 |
whatever
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: wherever
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Lol i hate moe and harem
Dont take it srsly it not like i dont like action-battle thing, thats my favorite genre actually. its just im more into kagaku than majutsu 100% majutsu arc in index just so.... Dont know how to explain this. Good thing NT mixed kagaku-majutsu in entire arc~ maybe i only imagine touma punch all magic atk when i read his battle so its become boring lol |
2013-07-03, 07:45 | Link #789 |
Nympholept
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Wonderland.
Age: 31
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Acqua was somewhat mixed with Science though, and British Halloween also had science side weaponry used at some point (that actually ended up relevant). I don't think there's been any 100% magic side in this series anymore since vol 11.
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2013-07-03, 08:35 | Link #790 |
Death to the infidels!
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: in a world of pain!
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until today want to see the Acc and Hamazura getting involved in an event that has much more magic than science, Hawaii promised it, except the Saronia and Cendrilion, the arc almost whole have exclusively scientific issues involved, as Kamijou-san already involved in their territory, they need to engage in the territory of Kamijou-san.
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2013-07-03, 14:34 | Link #792 | |
My turn
Join Date: Feb 2012
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British Halloween was mostly Carissa and knights kicking everyone's asses... Touma's too, so, probably, hamazura did read some parts of it. Acqua of the Back arc basically starts with Acqua kicking Touma's ass... So the beginning part is fine for hamazura, too. And Touma vs. Fiamma has three rounds, and first two are about Fiamma kicking Touma's ass and having everyone else freak out. In the end, though, I don't understand why hamazura reads Index at all. |
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2013-07-03, 19:42 | Link #794 |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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I must have missed the part that implied Brun was holding back. I mean she opened with an attack that would have instantly killed most opponents, so clearly she didn't hold back so as to not kill anyone. There was the spoiler that said she didn't use magic, but that wasn't actually stated in the translation and seems to not be entirely accurate due to that one line about Brun blowing something away with something other than brute strength. True we didn't actually see the runes but the fight was only really fully covered until the first railgun, and either way there are possible reasons she didn't other than holding back (maybe norse stuff doesn't work as well for her when she is in full saint mode?). And the other fight with Thor and Sil, they were clearly stated to be holding back.
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2013-07-03, 22:51 | Link #795 |
Death to the infidels!
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: in a world of pain!
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I'll reread the fight, but I'm almost sure that the only things she showed were their physical abilities, and honestly, just because Brunhild tried to kill Mikoto does not mean she was with everything, fight seriously and go all are things different, a very simple example, Touma vs Birdway, Birdway was serious enough against Touma, even threw out own pride, but at no time used the most powerful weapons in it (the major arcana).
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2013-07-04, 02:46 | Link #796 |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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You're right, using an attack that would kill most opponents instantly while knowing nothing about her opponent doesn't prove she wasn't holding back. However, it does show she had no problems killing Mikoto which eliminates the most common reason for holding back. I don't think there was any specific mention of spells, just that one line alluding to something, but nothing says she didn't either and the two were fighting 'off screen' a while. But even if Brun didn't use the runes, it isn't like that is some ridiculous top tier ability, maybe she judged it would be less effective? I mean we only saw Brun fight sort of twice and neither were really much of a fight (first was just feeling each other out and second was as a Valk and Kaori won by sabotaging her), so we don't really have much info on how she fights without holding back as a saint to begin with.
Edit: Also, you mentioned Birdway, but she held back because (well at least I think its the most likely reason) she honestly didn't want to kill him and would rather have the plan fail. Sil and Thor held back because they said they didn't want to level the city. I don't think Brun's runes/spells would really have caused much more destruction than was already going on (at least those we saw already) so neither of those reason apply there. If Brun was actually holding back, there has to be a reason for it, and I can't see any. Last edited by SilverTalon; 2013-07-04 at 03:13. |
2013-07-04, 03:14 | Link #797 | |
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Yeah aqua of the back first arc is quite good because its not like magic at all, its acqua kick everyone ass and im glad touma not the one who finish him off lol What acqua ability again? Nullifies curse thing? Not very useful huh? -_- except his gigantic mace... 20m? I wonder how he hold that thing, and 200m thor lightnng blade too lol I like everything beyond vento arc btw and yeah... Except british arc... Its fvkin 2 volume and I read it but because lack of enthusiasm so... Very vague about what happen in that arc... Index called by queen with touma and later there is ligjt light organization or whatever its name and he met oriana and began to chase them... After that... Forgot lol and who the heck is the bitch kid with touma in russia arc again lol? Epilog is good tough because fiamma kick everyone asses. I like vs fiamma battle Second fight vs fiamma is that maderfaking vento got assraped to roman ship that appeared in second orsola arc right? Final fight is interesting too, fiamma kick his ass even his imajin power is not enough, and then fiamma became like aurelus izzard when saw mysterious thing and touma is so stupid not use that power. Afterward, fiamma weakened and touma falcon punch him, but save him in the end. I wonder if fiamma will join touma harem in NT later lol And Gabriel vs Everyone is awesome |
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2013-07-04, 05:35 | Link #798 |
That one guy
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Odd question... if Touma's right arm is the output point of IB and Fiamma said it was the only arm worthy of housing the Holy Right...
Since Rensa copied the output capabilities of the arm(even though it blew up shortly after) did that mean for the short moment her arm could have been the output point for Holy Right as well? |
2013-07-04, 10:52 | Link #799 | |
Death to the infidels!
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in short, the two fought well, but because of Brunhild not have used magic, she will always cause this impression could have done more against Mikoto, is sad, but it's something that can not be changed until they fight again. Last edited by Acer; 2013-07-04 at 11:06. |
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2013-07-04, 13:54 | Link #800 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Age: 34
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Lets make it clear with some facts:
Both Thor and Sylvia agreed if they go all out they could end causing great destruction on the city and they're right. Just remember how much destruction caused the times Kanzaki fought Acqua and the time she fought Brunhild (pre and post Gungnir). And last, after the fight they make clear that they were just buying time for Ollerus. Quote:
Other example could Kanzaki who can use Shinto, Christian and Buddist magic at once with no problem. |
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