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2012-10-13, 10:00 | Link #862 | |
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Do you seriously read TLR for the romance aspect? |
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2012-10-13, 10:30 | Link #863 |
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Randrak42 but in most harem manga their is at least any development between MC and other girls... In Nisekoi development between Raku and Tsugumi or Mari was just only in first 1,2 chapters with them. After that there is nothing more. Ofc both girls fall in love with him more and more, but there is nothing from Raku... Im not talking that its not harem manga... It is, but only in name... If you focus only on romance part then its more love triangle that harem...
You forgot that Raku and Kosaki had mutual love in begining of series... Really if they would start dating it would be impossible for Chitoge to join the game... Gang wars, their parents, Mari, Tsugumi, that guy from Chitoge gang- nothing would matters... If Raku would know that his felings for Kosaki is mutual nothing would stop him from dating Kosaki and it would be end of manga- he is this kind of guy... Somewhere after Chitoge birthday party manga started to have place for Kosaki development. But still it could be done only really careful and slowly- to not destroy all development Raku got with Chitoge... And only now Raku and Kosaki can start dating with Chitoge still in game... It would be interesting... Earlier with Raku personalty any bigger development with Kosaki would destroy any chances for other girls to get him. Thats why it was hard for author to make any moves there... It would be interesting if Romeo and Juliet play would be big development between Raku and Kosaki. But thats probably will never happen...
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2012-10-13, 10:35 | Link #864 | |||
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TLR may not look like it with that mask of semi-gag and pure ecchi but when it gets actual plots going it knows what it does and does it well. Quote:
If you focus only on the romance part you can very well take away Kosaki's part cause she as much a background haremett as the other three by now. Quote:
And by your logic...if Raku was dating Kosaki by the time Chitoge showed up, he would refuse to pretend to date her...thus inciting a gang war between the two groups? Because that is clearly the kind of guy that Raku is...he would always sacrifice everyone else, even the lives of his "family" for his one true love... I'll be over there banging my head against the wall... Last edited by Randrak42; 2012-10-13 at 11:24. |
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2012-10-13, 12:44 | Link #865 | ||
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Funny, you make list with examples of worst harem manga ever (ok Love Hina is average and Ai Kora could be good if not for end, but with this end its worthless sh1t) and its for you representation of harem genre which includes hundreds of titles? Good harem manga have developments with more then 1 girl. And isnt it what you was looking for? Manga with development with more then one girl and subtle sign that one of them will win in the end, isnt it? Compare it wih series like Seitokai no Ichizon, Fujimura-kun Mates, Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai- see difference? Omg we are talking here about fictional work, not about real people. MC in romances manga are specific. Raku isnt sb normal if he would date Kosaki from begining then it would be impossible to develop STRONGER feelings for Chitoge. Talking about others girls is useless, because even without relationship with Kosaki he still feel nothing more then friendship towards Mari or Tsugumi... Quote:
I never said that even if he would start relationship with Kosaki from begining (just being sure that its mutual feeling for them would be enough, they not need to start dating immediately) then he would not start fake relationship with Chitoge(only to prevent gang wars). I just said that in this situation even if he would develop any feelings toward Chitoge then it would be impossible for them to burgeon. See that even now its really hard for Raku to understand his real feelings... Then imagine how hard it would be if he would be mutual relationship with Kosaki for long time...
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2012-10-13, 14:32 | Link #866 | |||||
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I consider the manga I named to be rather good as well as the ones you mentioned (Though I haven't read Fujimura-kun Mates, have been meaning too though...) so who are you to tell me that the examples I listed are bad just because you didn't like them? Hell, Love Hina and Ai Kora were two of my favorite Harem manga. Same goes for what makes a series a good or bad harem series. Some people think that shoving a bunch of girls in your face is enough, others believe deep relationships between the girls is most important. Personally I'm in between...hey I like a "large selection" of goodies but also a bit more of a connection with the girls but it varies on a case by case basis. Highschool DxD for example, the only real relationship development is between Rias and Issei yet it is played out well, we know from the beginning that he'll end up with Rias but it doesn't take away from the plot because the author does it well (And yes, hard to believe but I also watch read Highschool DxD for the plot D: OMG!). Quote:
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And again...not impossible. I'm done arguing with you...it's obvious that neither of us will change our minds on the matter and continuing this will only lead to headaches and wasted time. Make your last counter argument as you wish...I'm not really going to respond anyway. |
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2012-10-13, 21:35 | Link #867 | ||||
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I come back from all night club party (ofc i drink a lot), then my answers can be not perfect ;p
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I really liked AI Kora. It was good series with good development. And really you cant said that development in this series with other girls then Tenmaku was worser then in Nisekoi... MC develop feelings towars Tenmaku really late in series... But i really hate how author ended this manga... Everything was closed perfectly and author just destroy all in last chapter. I cant forgive him it... And Love Hina... It was probably my first harem manga i ever read... And i liked this series... But its mostly only sentimental feelings... If you want to be obiective then this series is average, at best... Quote:
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2012-10-14, 21:02 | Link #869 |
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I like how they joke about the splash cover, and the 4koma of the Chitoge & Tsugumi cover
As for their dream.... Wonder if it's made because Onodera's popularity to serve as "consolation prize" because the main story goes to Chitoge end
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2012-10-23, 18:54 | Link #878 |
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It seems that the translation for ch 47 is out but it's not imperial-scans that did it though
As much as I like Chitoge.. I think she's the one at wrong here in this chapter. At the very least, he wouldn't say anything like that if she didn't say those words to begin with. Of course the main problem also lays in Raku since he didn't realize her feelings...
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2012-10-23, 20:44 | Link #879 |
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Oh Raku. Don't feel so down. This is for your own good. Now, you can lovey dovey with your Onodera. Maybe you're down because you only see Onodera as a "crush" and not a love interest?
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2012-10-23, 21:07 | Link #880 |
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Marika and Tsugumi are just pure comic relief now.
Onodera is just the girl that has no chance in hell of winning. Chitoge is just the final girl that's producing unnecessary drama. I miss when I had fun reading this manga...now it's more out of habit and boredom (not even the funny over-the-top comedy saves it for me). |
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harem, non-harem, romantic comedy, school life, shounen, slice of life |
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