2012-04-20, 08:53 | Link #62 |
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another flashback chapter. Come to think of it, Naruto and Gaara had far worse childhood than Kabuto, but Naruto and Gaara both had people to guide them to the path of light, whilst Kabuto had Orochimaru, and nothing good can come of that...
The recent events made me wonder and realize that Danzou had affected a lot of antagonists in the series, and even lead to their transformation as the villains, I mean, The Uchiha brothers (Itachi in particular), Kabuto, and Nagato (you know, his alliance with Hanzo to destroy the rising group of Yahiko), that could have even lead to the formation of The Akatsuki... |
2012-04-20, 10:14 | Link #64 |
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Turned out? Danzou's character has stayed the course since his introduction, he's an ultra-nationalist slimebag who'd do anything to further Konoha's interests (interests which are unsurprinsingly always the same as his own) and whose plots always turn out to cause harm to the village.
He was introduced as a guy who takes orphans, brainwash them and force them kill each others as training nearly three hundreds chapters ago, there is really nothing new here. |
2012-04-20, 10:33 | Link #65 |
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After seeing how Danzou operated, I think his desire to be Hokage was very impractical. He had a lot more free reign to do what he felt like without being accountable to public opinion or even the wishes of the Daimyo as the conniving head of Root. If anything, the role of Hokage would have been a hindrance that painted a larger target on his back and restricted his ability to be a two-timing bastard to parties that already had official agreements with the village.
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2012-04-20, 12:57 | Link #66 | |
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he could have also just wanted the hokage robe and hat |
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2012-04-20, 13:11 | Link #67 |
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Danzou was hokage for a few days, and in those few days he managed to make the other 4 villages enemies
He openly admitted that he wanted the whole ninja world under his command, so it's not difficult to imagine him as long term hokage. He would have used all the resources of Konoha to wage wars, most of Naruto's generation would have probably died at a very young age in wars against other villages. Taking out Sasuke, akatsuki and kabuto/orochi of the equation, we get a kage summit where Danzou fails, but since he is already hokage failure is not an option, he would lose his title by failing. So i guess he would do something extreme, for example announce war and then use Izanagi to kill everybody in the kage summit. With Izanagi he would be able to kill most of them, so that there are less witnesses of his betrayal and more importantly he can announce war. War is very important for dictators, it strengthens their position in their own country, so i guess after killing the kages he would announce war. Since he cannot have war against 4 villages he would probably think that sparing Gaara as an ally will help him, and Gaara would be smart enough to temporarily accept this role only to survive and be able to ally with Naruto and Kakashi to stop Danzou. That would be an interesting story-line, one that doesn't contain Sasuke |
2012-04-20, 15:02 | Link #69 |
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I was under the impression that the arm itself was Shisui's arm, with Hashirama's cell face and the multiple Sharingan eyes implanted into it. Didn't Ao determine that Shisui's chakra was flowing in both Danzou's right eye and his right arm?
Last edited by Discerptor; 2012-04-21 at 14:41. Reason: whoa, huge typo. EYES, not arms. |
2012-04-20, 18:14 | Link #71 |
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I think the Hashirama face on Danzo and Madara is probably not Hashirama's original face he had when alive but a cloned face, Tobi does have a clone of Hashirama which Yamato is stuck near.
Danzo seems to have his original arm in this Kabuto flashback but it has some bandages covering it so it may be damaged a bit which could be why Danzo traded it for Shusui's arm. |
2012-04-20, 23:49 | Link #72 |
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Just a thought. I know many have joked that seeing this flashback has something to do with Izanagi. But, joking aside, maybe they are right. And, what's more, maybe Izanagi is literally rewriting Kabuto's past as we watch. Specifically, maybe the possible timeline discrepancies mentioned earlier (in this thread) are now a result of Itachi rewriting Kabuto's past, fundamentally altering the character's personality (and consequentially, their fate).
I doubt this is the case, but it would be a fun twist to the entire concept of the flashback that Kishimoto so often uses (and will undoubtedly use again when the Tobi fight officially starts). |
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The character was obviously invented in part 2 but I think it would have been better for the story if Sandaime and Danzou were the same person. Quote:
Danzou's flashback before his death already showed everything wrong with him, his excessive pride and jealousy, his fear of death, etc. All this was still present in him decades later, just amplified and twisted beyond redemption. |
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2012-04-22, 20:16 | Link #76 | |
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To me it would be like Naruto being Hokage while Shikamaru is running a shadow government, and doing what he wanted right, under Naruto's nose. It would make Naruto look like a moron. More than usual. |
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2012-04-22, 21:58 | Link #77 | |
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I don't think Sandaime's apparent lack of strictness when it comes to Danzou's authority shows weakness in character, more just further example of his leniency and patience. Danzou was his good friend and comrade, he probably gave Danzou benefit of the doubt believing that he always had Konoha's best interest in mind. And no doubt Danzou kept a lot of things well under Sarutobi's radar too. We've mostly seen Danzou at his worst, but my guess is that he was probably extremely competent and proved himself essential several times in the past (just that his means were very extreme). He also seems to carry some heavy influence over the village. Notice Tsunade wasn't about to take away his authority, even though she didn't like or trust him
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2012-04-22, 22:35 | Link #78 | |
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2012-04-23, 08:46 | Link #79 | |
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First I'd argue that such a leniency and patience are a weakness of character in a leader but it's less about his behavior than his factual control over his village or lack there off. The very fact that Sandaime was oblivious to what was going on make him weak and even when he disagreed with Danzou's actions in the open as in the Uchiha's quarantine and slaughter case he was outruled and had to go along against his wishes. Add to this the fact that Yamato knew of the way Root members are brainwashed and forced to kill each others means it's not so much a secret as something that Sandaime couldn't stop. Danzou carrying so much political influence that Sandaime couldn't move against him also seals the fact that Sandaime was not powerful nor influential enough. Remember as well that Root had been officially disbanded to no effect in reality. The very existence of a traitorous powerful political figure with a personal praetorian guards/back ops hit squad who ran Konoha's policies unchecked is antithetic with the notion that Sandaime was a powerful leader. |
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