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Tenzen12 · 2013-05-20, 00:43

It's out.

Rabac succesfully broke yet another flag and now it's battle between dog girl and Mein. So... which of them has bigger one and can we even trust to that?

waffler · 2013-05-20, 01:27

i kind off want incursio to evolve again , to me it looks like his helmet is combo of batman and mickey mouse ears o.o

MC117 · 2013-05-20, 01:50

I hope that they kill the girl with the dog next chapter, she's very irritating.

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

It's out.

Rabac succesfully broke yet another flag and now it's battle between dog girl and Mein. So... which of them has bigger one and can we even trust to that?

Tatsumi is there as well, he will also join the fight I think.

NeutralZero · 2013-05-20, 04:50

You're not the only one that's hoping for pet girl to die...
She already live a long life... time for her to go...

Tenchi Hou Take · 2013-05-20, 04:55

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Originally Posted by NeutralZero

You're not the only one that's hoping for pet girl to die...
She already live a long life... time for her to go...

Wait how is she, isn't she one of the youngest around

Tenzen12 · 2013-05-20, 04:58

Why are you so meens that poor girl? she just doing good deeds, helping and protect people! When Dexter does such thing everyone think he's awesome, but when it's cute and nice girl you would kill her of immidietely

Mentar · 2013-05-20, 05:01

I'm not sure what's going to happen, but I don't want Seiryuu to die (even though she very well might). It would be just one more tragic victim of the war. CAUSED by the war, she isn't evil or malicious by nature.

What I'm happy about is that there now is a realistic chance that Esdese will finally learn the truth (about Tatsumi being Night Raid). That gives me hope that the storyline will finally substantially advance from the pure butchery of the last 10 chapters.

ShiroiRyu · 2013-05-20, 06:20

Rabac is alive.
It's the best part !
But the end ... Finally they know ...

Libros · 2013-05-20, 06:39

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It would be just one more tragic victim of the war. CAUSED by the war, she isn't evil or malicious by nature.

I'm not gonna lie, I do agree with you to a certain extent that Seiryuu is sort of a victim of the war but then again, let's be honest, her killing of, what's her name with the scissors and her general insanity don't exactly help the situation. If anything it makes it worse. Also, while she is, once again, to a certain extent not malicious or particularly "evil" or anything in general, she is extremely so when she is around criminals or those who deviate from her definition of justice(e.g NR or when she fed her pet to the criminals on death row. That's not even vigilante justice, that's just her feeding live human beings to a monster, whether or not they may have deserved it is another can of worms altogether but still, that's just not right.).

True, she can be somewhat justified when she kills NR members considering her job is: Protect and serve under General Edese who protects and servers under the Prime minister. And NR's goal is basically kill both of those people. But again, it's not like she's a victim, she also deserves a very big slice of the pie of blame. She could have ignored Tatsumi & what's her name when she discovered them but did she? The answer is no.

~~OverSeer~~ · 2013-05-20, 07:08

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Originally Posted by Mentar

What I'm happy about is that there now is a realistic chance that Esdese will finally learn the truth (about Tatsumi being Night Raid).

You have no idea how badly I want this to happen!

~~OverSeer~~ · 2013-05-20, 07:12

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Originally Posted by Libros

I'm not gonna lie, I do agree with you to a certain extent that Seiryuu is sort of a victim of the war but then again, let's be honest, her killing of, what's her name with the scissors and her general insanity don't exactly help the situation. If anything it makes it worse. Also, while she is, once again, to a certain extent not malicious or particularly "evil" or anything in general, she is extremely so when she is around criminals or those who deviate from her definition of justice(e.g NR or when she fed her pet to the criminals on death row. That's not even vigilante justice, that's just her feeding live human beings to a monster, whether or not they may have deserved it is another can of worms altogether but still, that's just not right.).

True, she can be somewhat justified when she kills NR members considering her job is: Protect and serve under General Edese who protects and servers under the Prime minister. And NR's goal is basically kill both of those people. But again, it's not like she's a victim, she also deserves a very big slice of the pie of blame. She could have ignored Tatsumi & what's her name when she discovered them but did she? The answer is no.

I do agree with you regarding the justice girl and her method and believes. As for the current situations she is ignoring the generals request/order of killing Tatsumi only if there is no other choice and she needs to defend herself. As far as both Esdese and Justice girl are concerned Tatsumi is defenseless. I am betting if Tatsumi did actually die to the justice girl and she never realized that he had a Tegu because he didnt have a chance to use it or something and came back and told the Esdese that she could not hold back when killing him, I think Esdese might actually kill her for ignoring her request and or order.

Jetzero Infinity · 2013-05-20, 07:15

Newest chapter was pretty great. I worried about Rabac there for a second but it looks like he managed to avoid any death flags for now and even took out both assassins. Pretty sweet. I also agree that at this point I wouldn't mind seeing justice chick being the next to go. While I do feel kind of sorry for her losing people she cares about, her Knight Templar-esque insanity has slowly made her more and more unlikeable. If she doesn't get killed this time though, it does seem inevitable Esdese will find out about Tatsumi so that should be interesting.

Mentar · 2013-05-20, 09:34

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Originally Posted by Libros

I'm not gonna lie, I do agree with you to a certain extent that Seiryuu is sort of a victim of the war but then again, let's be honest, her killing of, what's her name with the scissors and her general insanity don't exactly help the situation. If anything it makes it worse.

Depends on your definition of "worse". So you think that it would be "better" to murder your opponents with a happy smile at ease with yourself like e.g. Leone?

The glaring discrepancy between Seiryuu's kind and happy playing with little kids and her manic hatred hatred for NR (who murdered several people dear to her) only shows how corrupting this entire war is. Because it emotionally warps people like Seiryuu who should tend to kids rather than being out to kill.

I feel strongly about this because I feel that this simple truth has direct ramifications in real life. Perpetuating war with the naive reason "we have to because we must win" will generally lead nowhere, because it will constantly drag people into the conflict out of a longing for revenge - just like Seiryuu. War feasts on itself, and those people killed are usually simply replaced by those people who want revenge for a loss of loved ones. And this manga has the courage to display it to the thinking reader.

Libros · 2013-05-20, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Mentar

Depends on your definition of "worse". So you think that it would be "better" to murder your opponents with a happy smile at ease with yourself like e.g. Leone?

The glaring discrepancy between Seiryuu's kind and happy playing with little kids and her manic hatred hatred for NR (who murdered several people dear to her) only shows how corrupting this entire war is. Because it emotionally warps people like Seiryuu who should tend to kids rather than being out to kill.

I feel strongly about this because I feel that this simple truth has direct ramifications in real life. Perpetuating war with the naive reason "we have to because we must win" will generally lead nowhere, because it will constantly drag people into the conflict out of a longing for revenge - just like Seiryuu. War feasts on itself, and those people killed are usually simply replaced by those people who want revenge for a loss of loved ones. And this manga has the courage to display it to the thinking reader.

As for your first point, I feel I need to make myself clear, I feel, Night Raid, if we go by their actions are as bad as the Jaegars, I'm not gonna lie or dance around this issue, Leone killing someone is as bad as any of the Jaegars killing someone. Period.

Moving on, as for your second point about how Seiryuu was emotionally warped by the war but as she is now, I do agree that this war has corrupted everyone involved(aside from maybe Wave or he may already be screwed up and I haven't noticed) and is really a black hole that sucks away people's lives. However, I think as for her tending to children, she'll most probably(if it even exists) may need a few months/years of therapy before she can be fit to do that. Considering all that's happened so far.

As for your final point, NR's & the resistance's reason for war against the empire isn't "because we need to win" it's because the empire is so corrupt you have people like that girl from the first chapter that tortured and killed Tatsumi's friend's popping up left and right. That has to be stopped but with the current government that doesn't seem like it's going to happen anytime soon. Though when you say "War feasts on itself, and those people killed are usually simply replaced by those people who want revenge for a loss of loved ones." I can't say you're wrong. Because after all, that does happen both in real life and fiction.

Tenchi Hou Take · 2013-05-20, 14:29

These's no such thing as a righteous war, it will always warp everyone involved, it's always about making the best of bad situation in those cases. Displacing a tyrannical always seems a good idea at the time but the long reaching consequences of his removal are no simple matter, you may very well be plunging your country into constant war that has long reaching ramifications. Unless the rebel faction has made all the preparations for a swift coup d'état (and they rarely do) you could easily be plunging the citizens into a worse standard of life than what they were experiencing before. The world currently and in history is filled with these examples.

I suppose the recurring theme through history is that something that seems like good idea may often not be.

kenjtr · 2013-05-20, 19:20

Somehow i get the feeling that Akame will bethray everyone and take her siters sword too while esdese will join tatsumis side and use shirkies siccors against akame in last battle . I want tatsumi be the king of the north and fight empire since i dont think the corruption will change even if revlutioaries wins .

Also its good that there is hybrid people which means story can get intresting and get much more development , i also think tatsumi can be a hybrid but who knows .

If this story can go like berserk or guin saga it would be much more cooler.

Xion Valkyrie · 2013-05-20, 19:22

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Originally Posted by kenjtr

Somehow i get the feeling that Akame will bethray everyone and take her siters sword too while esdese will join tatsumis side and use shirkies siccors against akame in last battle . I want tatsumi be the king of the north and fight empire since i dont think the corruption will change even if revlutioaries wins .

Also its good that there is hybrid people which means story can get intresting and get much more development , i also think tatsumi can be a hybrid but who knows .

If this story can go like berserk or guin saga it would be much more cooler.

Why would Akame betray everyone?

kenjtr · 2013-05-20, 19:28

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Why would Akame betray everyone?

I think its because of the name of the manga also we dont know who is leading revolutionaries which also means that akame can be faithful to that guy , dont you find it weird after all these chapter we have no idea about who is leading revolutionaries .

Iron Maw · 2013-05-21, 23:10

Good chapter. I have give this manga credit for making me legitimately question whether a character will die or not. Things could have gone either way for him and really like that since it means almost every fight count.

At last it seem the showdown between Mein and Seiryuu will begin. This is pretty familiar setup though...

solomon · 2013-05-22, 00:56

Yea I could have sworn Rabac was gonna kick the buck BUT COMIC RELIEF CHAR's GOT HIS SHIT IN GEAR YEEAAHHH.

Also was I the only one who was like.........................that girlies sweat can do WHAT? (and why can't MY gilrfriend do that?!)

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ShiroiRyu Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: France Age: 35	Rabac is alive. It's the best part ! But the end ... Finally they know ... __________________

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Iron Maw Banned Join Date: Feb 2006	Ch 36 Good chapter. I have give this manga credit for making me legitimately question whether a character will die or not. Things could have gone either way for him and really like that since it means almost every fight count. At last it seem the showdown between Mein and Seiryuu will begin. This is pretty familiar setup though...

2013-05-20, 00:43	Link #2121
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	It's out. Rabac succesfully broke yet another flag and now it's battle between dog girl and Mein. So... which of them has bigger one and can we even trust to that?

2013-05-20, 01:27	Link #2122
waffler Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	i kind off want incursio to evolve again , to me it looks like his helmet is combo of batman and mickey mouse ears o.o

2013-05-20, 04:50	Link #2124
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	You're not the only one that's hoping for pet girl to die... She already live a long life... time for her to go...

2013-05-20, 04:58	Link #2126
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Why are you so meens that poor girl? she just doing good deeds, helping and protect people! When Dexter does such thing everyone think he's awesome, but when it's cute and nice girl you would kill her of immidietely

2013-05-20, 05:01	Link #2127
Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	I'm not sure what's going to happen, but I don't want Seiryuu to die (even though she very well might). It would be just one more tragic victim of the war. CAUSED by the war, she isn't evil or malicious by nature. What I'm happy about is that there now is a realistic chance that Esdese will finally learn the truth (about Tatsumi being Night Raid). That gives me hope that the storyline will finally substantially advance from the pure butchery of the last 10 chapters.

2013-05-20, 07:15	Link #2132
Jetzero Infinity Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012	Newest chapter was pretty great. I worried about Rabac there for a second but it looks like he managed to avoid any death flags for now and even took out both assassins. Pretty sweet. I also agree that at this point I wouldn't mind seeing justice chick being the next to go. While I do feel kind of sorry for her losing people she cares about, her Knight Templar-esque insanity has slowly made her more and more unlikeable. If she doesn't get killed this time though, it does seem inevitable Esdese will find out about Tatsumi so that should be interesting.

2013-05-20, 14:29	Link #2135
Tenchi Hou Take Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	These's no such thing as a righteous war, it will always warp everyone involved, it's always about making the best of bad situation in those cases. Displacing a tyrannical always seems a good idea at the time but the long reaching consequences of his removal are no simple matter, you may very well be plunging your country into constant war that has long reaching ramifications. Unless the rebel faction has made all the preparations for a swift coup d'état (and they rarely do) you could easily be plunging the citizens into a worse standard of life than what they were experiencing before. The world currently and in history is filled with these examples. I suppose the recurring theme through history is that something that seems like good idea may often not be.

2013-05-20, 19:20	Link #2136
kenjtr Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	Somehow i get the feeling that Akame will bethray everyone and take her siters sword too while esdese will join tatsumis side and use shirkies siccors against akame in last battle . I want tatsumi be the king of the north and fight empire since i dont think the corruption will change even if revlutioaries wins . Also its good that there is hybrid people which means story can get intresting and get much more development , i also think tatsumi can be a hybrid but who knows . If this story can go like berserk or guin saga it would be much more cooler.

2013-05-22, 00:56	Link #2140
solomon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suburban DC	Yea I could have sworn Rabac was gonna kick the buck BUT COMIC RELIEF CHAR's GOT HIS SHIT IN GEAR YEEAAHHH. Also was I the only one who was like.........................that girlies sweat can do WHAT? (and why can't MY gilrfriend do that?!)