2009-11-29, 01:56 | Link #1641 |
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at first when i read this i was thinking about Medaka and Zenichi + their relationship than more characters jumps into the boat. But....it seems like people jumps in and out and in and out of the boat instead. I'll read this regardless, cant leave something 1/2 finished..
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2009-11-29, 15:02 | Link #1642 |
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@ darknemo, i particularly donīt read stuff i donīt want to in a magazine if it bores me, e.g. you donīt necessarily read every single article in a playboy/FHM/womenīs magazine u buy, nobody forces u to do so, hence if there would be that much of disinterest, why bother reading given articles/manga chapters?
the fact that it doesnīt get votes means it is disliked, but on the other hand read, since there is quite a lot of feedback, this thread e.g. spawns a whole lot more than really good manga that are ongoing/decent |
2009-11-29, 17:20 | Link #1643 | |
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Maybe quite a number do not read Medaka at all and this is what is reflected in low ratings... It does not mean it is popular. It just means it has more active/loud fans (or anti-fans) for better or worse. |
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2009-11-29, 17:56 | Link #1644 | |
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2009-11-30, 04:00 | Link #1645 | |||
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Psyren finally cracks top 3 and than goes to bottom 5 two weeks in a row, ouch.
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2009-11-30, 06:54 | Link #1647 | |
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Take Kouji Seo, for example, and Kimi no Iru Machi or Suzuka. The man is king at manipulating people into lusting after his blood, but he manages to throw in some really good moments to keep it balanced. MB lacks that balance and seems to get mostly negative feedback. It could be a side effect of having shallow characters or bizarre plot, I don't know. I'm sure most of it is related to unrealized potential. Sort of like the Transformers 2 movie (which I actuay enjoyed), many people were expecting more and were disappointed and are still complaining shot it. When you hope for greatness only to see those hopes crushed by mediocrity week and week, it gets to you and it's human nature to complain about things like that. Especially when you go the movies expecting a great romance and end up with a senseless action flick (or a similar analogy). One thing I have noticed, though, is that NisiOisiN seems to be experimenting with a new way of storytelling. Notice how while Medaka is the main character, yet we never see inside her head. Everything we've learned about her has come from the observations and inner thoughts of those around her-- Zenkichi, Unzen, Kikaijima, Nabeshima, etc. We see what they're thinking all the time, but we never know what Medaka is thinking. It's a unique way to tell the story, but just because it's unique, it doesn't make it good. The problem is that it alienates the main character and makes it hard to relate to her, which is fine if that's the goal (and given Medaka herself, I wouldn't be surprised if it was), but if the characters who are observing her are shallow and one-dimensional, it just doesn't work that well. It's why I think he should have spent a lot more time developing the characters AROUND Medaka first instead of just throwing them in to narrate her story, without having an real stories of their own.
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2009-11-30, 22:57 | Link #1650 | |
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I'm not really expecting too much from the chapter anyway. Only thing I'm interested in is what Kikaijima says. The others have really become unimportant in my eyes.
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2009-12-01, 00:10 | Link #1651 |
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Hmmmm, finally went ahead and read Medaka Box and most of the latter half of this thread. Maybe it's because I read everything in one setting, but the problems don't seem anywhere near as pronounced as all the detractors are making it out to be.
Well, Medaka's character portrayal flaws are still there, but I don't feel like the student council is that out of the loop. Zen also seems to be making a comeback. Still, I'd have preferred it remain school life/comedy. |
2009-12-01, 05:37 | Link #1652 |
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The problem with Zen's "comeback" is that it's one step forward, two steps back. He showed a lot of guts and stength in the chapter against King, but was reduced to being useless in the next two chapters again.
I would have preferred the non-battle route myself. At least it has a plot now, though, where it didn't before, even if it isn't a very good one.
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2009-12-01, 06:40 | Link #1653 | |
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But again, though 'sold out' sounds impressive we have to have in mind that there weren't that much copies released to begin with. It's like I and my friend would make a race with obstacles but since I have low expectation on my jumping ability I make all obstacles 10 cm high and manage to jump over them, but that doesn't make me a good jumper. It only means I am not as pathetic as I initially thought myself to be, yet 'not as pathetic' doesn't cut as being 'good'. Same way with medaka. Volume 2 will be the judgment call for it, if it goes over 30 K sells then it will dodge the doom once again, but if not it is almost guaranteed to be the next victim of the axe. |
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2009-12-01, 14:23 | Link #1654 | |
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2009-12-03, 11:04 | Link #1660 |
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Aaaarrrggh, i just can't accept Medaka as a hero in this manga. It's like the author is forcing us to accept her as the Goku of the story and Zen as the useless Yamcha. Her fight with the guy from the 13th party is really boring and it doesn't add anything to the plot. Perhaps we can expect this next: Medaka reveals that she can achieve SSJ1 form now that she removed the limiter and will use spirit bomb to destroy the entire facility after investigating everything. *sigh* Meh, a bit over the top but i really get that impression when i read this manga.
This manga would be interesting if the author chooses to let Zen get kidnapped and become the first one who forcefully gets to drink that *genius* drink.. I hope at least that the Chairman will have something like that in mind, using Zen as the first guinea pig. |
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action, comedy, harem, nishio, romance, shounen, student council |
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