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Not sure why it was ever mentioned why it was Japan he was send to, but with Lelouch renouncing his entitlement and accusing the king it can be considered that they never mentioned him again afterward because it was a very shameful act for their family as punishment Charles banished him and Nunnally to Japan (though why Japan I forgot).
Not all siblings are close to each other in the Britannia, many hated Marianne also if I remember correctly and so I think most of them just didn't care and didn't have the authority to do anything about it in the fear that they would be punished by Charles for trying to save one that was kicked out of the family. Charles's word is God and shouldn't be questioned |
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If it was such a shameful act, I would also expect the nobles to gossip, so that every time someone said, "Lelouch and Nunally died in Japan", someone else would add, "yes, after having been banished in disgrace".
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2009-10-14, 03:12 | Link #2183 |
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I'm going on pure assumption-fuel for this, but from what I understand, Jeremiah was basically a mook guard at the time. I haven't watched the picture drama in a while, but I think he said he was recently out of the training academy and/or had barely been a guard at Aries for a week before Marianne was killed. As such he wasn't exactly in a position to look too far up the chain of command without getting himself and his own family into trouble.
In truth, I can't even remember if Jeremiah said anything to imply or confirm he was even aware that Lelouch and Nunally were sent to Japan specifically. Clovis and a few of the other royal siblings were aware, but it may have been kept fairly secret from lower levels, similar to how Euphemia apparently hadn't appeared in the news in any fashion despite being Cornelia's sister until she came to Japan. As for why they were sent to Japan, while the "official" reason was probably as a good faith gesture to the Japanese government and/or the sakuradite industry, the actual reason was to protect them from V.V. and the other nobles. Basically, with no noble family of their own, they would have been targeted by the rest of their family and the nobles who really did view them as eyesores. If Charles tried to protect them himself, then this would only endanger them further as it would be seen as affection, or as Britannians call it: "Exploitable Weakness" and/or V.V. might go after them as well. Charles' rant and banishement of them to Japan made them look unimportant, moved them too far away for anyone to go after them "just in case," and gave them a diplomatic purpose, so no one who knew they were sent off would want harm to come to them, as it would hurt negotiations. On the Japanese end, Genbu had plenty of incentive to keep Lelouch and Nunally alive at least, as he could lose favor with the Japanese people if Britannia could reveal that they sent children into his custody and he let them die, and as was said; they gave him a measure of leverage in negotiations. As said in the Imperial Siblings sound drama, going to war with Japan was a surprise. Originally, Japan was too far away from Britannia and too close to China and the EU to risk invading, thus it was effectively a safe haven to send Lelouch and Nunally. The general understanding is that it was when Japan joined the EU and Chinese Federation in Blockading Britannia from trade (and possible pressure from the Directorate to locate Geass ruins in the east) that Britannia's (and Charles') hand was forced so to speak. Charles had to act and as much as he cared for his children, he had to keep Britannia going in order to complete Ragnarok, thus the invasion. |
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I also still think Charles' plan was incredibly faulty, and that no one forced him to send Lelouch to exactly the country he would later on invade - he could at least have tried to get him back first, and be it by letting someone kidnap him and Nunally. I'm also still not convinced that word got around about the banishment thing, since no one ever mentioned it. Considering how epic the confrontation was, at least the Imperial Siblings should have mentioned it. Quote:
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Again, he wasn't originally planning on invading Japan (at least, not for a good while longer). He was counting on its position in the global economy, distance from Britannia, and being in the proverbial backyard of both China and the EU to be a good reason for him to say they couldn't risk invading, and Genbu was already pitting the three suprpowers against each other in bidding wars for sakuradite. Genbu agreeing to the trade blockades with the EU and CF forced Charles' hand. Charles' plan had faults but he didn't exactly have many options. He had an immortal version of Rolo clinging to him, and an entire city full of political vultures watching his every move for a chance to better themselves at his expense. We also can't be sure that Charles didn't try to have Lelouch and Nunally evacuated before or during the invasion. Again, Charles' options would be limited in that he couldn't send someone in too early before the invasion without arousing suspicion that he wanted his kids back. If he jeopordized the invasion for his children, then they would be targets again. They were also staying with Genbu, so it would be safe to assume that they planned to capture the Kururugi shrine intact and rescue Lelouch and Nunally under the pretext of "Oh, they were there so we decided to save them too." Unfortunately, Charles acting was too good and Lelouch decided to escape from the Kururugi Shrine, believing precisely that someone from Britannia would come for them and drag them back to Charles to repeat the process, or kill them right there. Quote:
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is it true the story of a new season : Revival re:advent ?
http://www.geass.jp/
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2009-10-19, 12:29 | Link #2188 |
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Kinda wondered why Lelouch didn't bother learning how to fatally poison people when he was still a prince if he knew about assassins in the royal court. Obviously, no one would suspect a nine-year old to secretly slip toxins into someone's afternoon tea and such.
By the way, in a swordfight, who would win? Toudou or Xingke?
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2009-10-20, 01:50 | Link #2192 |
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It wouldn't really matter. Xingke would still win. The Chinese swordfighting style, from what I can see, focuses on speed and agility, so Xingke, being much younger, would have an advantage. Kenjutsu mainly focuses on killshots, from what I can see, and I don't see how Toudou could land one, if Xingke were to dart around and slash him.
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2009-10-20, 02:08 | Link #2193 |
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It depends on the skill of the wielder. I've seen a person trained in the use of saber fencing, from his time in the navy, fight someone trained in the use of katanas. Two radically different styles of fighting, whereas sabers rely on thrusts for killing strokes, while katanas are all slash and cut. Yet the person who had more training was the person using the saber, and he won the match, despite his opponent being bigger and stronger, and having a larger weapon.
Since we have only seen Xing-ke in a serious fight using a sword, while we have not seeing Toudou in the same situation, the question is impossible to answer.
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He might be Rurouni Kenshin-good...or as good as any regular Japanese army officer. Which is to say...not very good.
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2009-10-21, 02:10 | Link #2195 |
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C.C.: If I grant you power, could you go on? I propose a deal—in exchange for this power, you must agree to make my one wish come true. Accept this contract, and you accept its conditions. While living in the world of humans, you will live unlike any other: a different providence, a different time, a different life. The Power of the King will condemn you to a life of solitude. Are you prepared for this?
So, we never really saw Lelouch live a life of solitude, as he always had others to support him. How then did he suffer solitude? Also, what happened to Lelouch after death? I assume he went to the world of C, but what is the world of C? What happens there? Is it like the place in Death Note, where all the users live in solitude? Thank you. |
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As for the World of C, yes, that is the general consensus that it is the Code Geass world's afterlife. As for what goes on in it is anyone's guess. Some speculate that after a person's consciousness is added to the mass they simply remain unconscious and stay in the World of C. Some speculate that there is an actual conscious afterlife that people live in. And some speculate that eventually a person's consciousness is recycled into a new body. So there is no definite answer. |
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