2013-03-29, 11:01 | Link #1241 | |
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2013-03-29, 11:17 | Link #1242 |
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That was just only a continuation to Kud's route just like Tomoyo After from Tomoyo's route. So that isn't canon.
While Sasami's route is the continuation of Refrain since like I said, Sasami's route takes place after the events of Refrain. |
2013-03-29, 11:39 | Link #1243 |
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There're no definite answers to the case...This has been discussed dozen of times with Kurugaya's true ending.
In Sasami's case,it's like a what if scenario when Riki choose Sasami. You know ,like if you can continue playing after refrain and get to choose your heroine all over again.Sasami's route is among the possible story this time around. It might or might not happened,I mean... |
2013-03-29, 11:47 | Link #1244 | |
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2013-03-29, 11:50 | Link #1245 |
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That's the thing, Refrain itself is the continuation of EVERY girl routes and the canon story should end there...well at least in my opinion. Then again I don't consider even EX to be canon...
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2013-03-29, 12:06 | Link #1247 |
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I think you are taking a too strict definition of canon. Unlike other Key games, here all the original routes actually happened in the same continuity, but for the other routes (the EX ones, Kurugaya true, Kud Wafter), I think we should use the same interpretation as in other Key games (and most VNs): they all happen in different universes, or are different possibilities; they're all canon in their own ways. The only thing that I wouldn't consider canon is the Muscle Sensation ending.
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2013-03-29, 12:09 | Link #1248 | |
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Then the existence of the EX routes except Saya loses its purpose. They should have just create a new game which that totally differs from the LB story like Rewrite Harvest Festa and that dedicates to the EX routes so we can say they aren't canon. |
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2013-04-02, 20:05 | Link #1251 |
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Hey I got a question that's been on my mind ever since I started thinking about how Kousuke's arc is going to be animated. Now I may be remembering incorrectly, but here it goes anyway.
When Kousuke was exiting and re-entering the dream world to crawl to the bus to slow the gas leak (or whatever it was), why did he start from the beginning of his crawl when he was interrupted? (or failed or whatever) Shouldn't every bit of movement he makes in the real world be irreversible since the real world can't be reset? |
2013-04-03, 05:48 | Link #1252 | |
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I suppose you could say it's not real and he's kind of like (unknowingly) using another dream world to "ready" himself to be able to reach it when the real thing happens. Or every time he forces himself out of the dream world to move while keeping it still active turns back time once he stops and dies. That's of course without going into one of the many theories of refrain (that it isn't even real and everyone is already dead anyway) but that's a whole other discussion right there. But that's Key...they were never the best at fully explaining everything in detail when it comes to their magical and supernatural events. |
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2013-04-03, 08:31 | Link #1254 |
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I personally think that all of them are canon. In fact, there isn't even proof that it IS the Real World that Riki woke up to and not a more concrete and continuous Dream World Riki and Rin created. >.> Oh Key ambiguity, what can we do without you.
.... Although Kud Wafter happened when the entire incident didn't happen (I think).
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2013-04-06, 16:40 | Link #1255 | |
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Spoiler for Drama CD and Refrain spoilers:
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2013-04-08, 00:05 | Link #1256 | |
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Actually, why is Kud so popular and Kurugaya less so? As moe and interesting as Kud is as a character, I would have to agree that Kurugaya is literally a Bishoujo size concentration of pure walking awesome. I actually think the same line of thinking drawing Riki to Kyousuke is the same reason why Riki would be drawn to Kurugaya. Kurugaya x Riki is the hetero-sexual romantic expression of the Bromantic overtones of Kyousuke and Riki's relationship. I always got the sense that Kurugaya is to the girls in Little Busters what Kyousuke is to the boys. Although, mind you, were Riki and Kurugaya's genders reversed, I think their relationship would look like something straight out of a Shoujo Romance manga with a snarky female main protagonist. And Male! Kurugaya would be quite abit of a male bully. Sorry. "Hetero-sexual romantic expression" was the best made-up phase I could think off on the spot to make my point. |
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2013-04-08, 07:09 | Link #1257 | |
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Two reasons came into play as to why Kud got her won Kud Wafter and Anego didn't: 1- For some reason Kud's popularity in Japan far outweighed that of the other heroines (damn you lolicon bastards); 2- Tomoyo After had already come to existence. Tomoyo and Kurugaya are quite similar characters (especially if you compare them with the other girls in their respective VNs) so they had to appeal to another demographic when making an Afterstory. Plus as far as I am aware, Tomoyo After didn't do that well in sales. So for now, I'm happy just imagining a Yuiko After in my head...because there is nothing else I can do about it :| |
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2013-04-08, 09:49 | Link #1258 |
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There isn't a proof the Kyousuke who said that is not a product of Riki's dream though... (more like, there is no proof that our life is not a dream either, like matrix or inception)
...so the ending is not that happy after all...
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