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Shiroth · 2009-04-17, 13:11

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Originally Posted by SaraFilipa

The thing about Kawai, no matter how great he is, is that I am sure he wouldn't be able to surprass the VN OST

That's not what he set out to do with his score for the Higurashi adaptations --- and it's what a lot of you game players seem to think. Can't you people just treat it as a stand alone score, and leave it at that?

Yes i agree the original score is miles better for the story, though i treat the two completely different, instead of comparing them.

chronotrig · 2009-04-17, 13:32

I guess the point is, why do they need to be different?
If many songs from the game soundtrack are better in most ways, why not keep them?

Of course, it wouldn't make sense to use only tracks from the game, since you need to match the music with individual scenes in the anime. A score is still needed. But a huge part of what makes Umineko Umineko is the great tracks.

Yes, you can make a good adaptation while changing a lot of what made the original good.
But lightning tends not to strike in the same place twice. The more they change from the games' original feel, the more they risk losing what makes these games great in the first place.

Jan-Poo · 2009-04-19, 14:50

Ah i just imagine what would have happened if FFVII AC didn't have any single music from the original game XD

patnam · 2009-04-21, 08:45

i bet Kenji Kawai will make a great score for this anime series...
therefore the opening and ending theme may in english version...

Proto · 2009-04-21, 17:55

Yes, please do that. We have a thread for this where you can talk about all of this without risk of spoilering anyone. Take the discussion to that thread if you don't mind.

izmosmolnar · 2009-04-22, 01:28

Well I have nothing else to add regarding that, as I feel I let out everything already which was in my mind (IMO without giving anything away).
I felt it was slightly related to the music-discussion here (at least I instinctively associated on the OP bgm, which led me to the OP itself). Please feel free to send me any lifesign or something, if my puzzling, borderline spoilerish replies were too much and I'll delete them

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Westlo · 2009-04-22, 03:39

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

Hearing plenty good things about Umineko's original score. Will go check that out.

Worldend Dominator is awesome.

Mizuno · 2009-04-22, 07:35

The track "far" is also very good. I had been listening to it on repeat.

Blue-kun · 2009-04-22, 09:57

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I have nothing against Kawai's score for Higurashi. It just seems to me that most of you who know about the original score will forever compare it to that, and that's fine. I do believe that Kawai could have done a better job, but ah well it's just one of those things. Still that doesn't mean i don't like his score for it --- there's quite a few pieces from it that i liked quite a bit.

You know, I get the feeling that the biggest problem people have with Higurashi isn't really the score itself. The sound direction was really awful at some parts and the lack of any music or whatsoever made A LOT of scenes really dull/uninteresting. I haven't read Higurashi, but, at least in Umineko, music plays a huge part on the whole piece. To be quite honest, I think a lot of those scenes wouldn't have caused the same impact on me if it weren't for the musics they used. Especially those composed by zts which hold that "brace now, man, we're getting close to the end and we'll wrap it up in great fashion!".

But yeah, couple that with the lack of the original score (especially You, which, afaik, is a fan-favourite) and I guess people just can't help but put all the blame on Kawai.

In other news, though, regarding the Umineko score, it's really brilliant. Try it out when you have the time. I'm pretty sure stuff like HANE and goldenslaughterer won't let you down.

Westlo · 2009-04-22, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Blue-kun

In other news, though, regarding the Umineko score, it's really brilliant. Try it out when you have the time. I'm pretty sure stuff like HANE and goldenslaughterer won't let you down.

I finally started listening to osts 2-4 just before, goldenslaughter is just amazing, zts is the man, what else has (s)he done?

Jan-Poo · 2009-04-22, 11:39

dreamend discharger is probably the best he has composed, meaning he's getting even better over time. The violin parts are amazing.

Blue-kun · 2009-04-22, 15:08

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Originally Posted by Westlo

I finally started listening to osts 2-4 just before, goldenslaughter is just amazing, zts is the man, what else has (s)he done?

You know, now that you ask me, I really don't think I've listened to other zts works. I mean, aside from arranges and remixes that are on YouTube, I really can't name any other game he has worked on.

Anyway, gotta agree with the poster above. dreamenddischarger is simply awesome. I really like how he mixes in a bit of the other tunes on it and how it still works and flows perfectly.

kyouray · 2009-04-22, 15:08

From Famitsu :

Blue-kun · 2009-04-22, 15:13

Battler sure looks like Phoenix Wright while objecting with that pose.

Looking good, though. And the bishounen-ish look's really making my mind go wild while imagining it coupled with Daisuke (Fabulous) Ono's voice.

Coruja · 2009-04-22, 15:22

Ohhh very nice!! ^^ Battler looks so handsome.

UnknownBeast · 2009-04-22, 17:34

Battler looks a bit young.. even if he's nineteen... and he doesn't look "big".. >_>

Beato looks awesome though. :3 :3 :3

WAIT... *takes a closer look* Wait a sec...

DID THEY MISCOLORED THE ROSE ON HER HEAD!?!!?

momobunny · 2009-04-22, 17:43

I really like how Battler looks, I like the colors and the style and the pose, Beatrice on the other hand...

Also I like how Battler doesn't look super huge, even if he is tall he doesn't really need to be drawn as if he's a giant of anything. In the original game he doesn't really look like he's that tall anyway, and I don't really like how a lot of taller people in anime are drawn so seriously while everybody else looks normal. I'm sure we'll see the height difference when he's standing next to the others anyway...

aguspin2007 · 2009-04-22, 17:52

it seems so =w=U
it's horrible with the yellow rose :S

Crisano · 2009-04-22, 18:19

Really am impressed with the image. Really like the colors they choose for the characters. Definitely looking forward to this.

Mizuno · 2009-04-22, 18:42

Her hair is already yellow, why are they making her rose yellow!? orz

Seriously, what are they thinking?

2009-04-17, 13:32	Link #522
chronotrig Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Buffer overflow	I guess the point is, why do they need to be different? If many songs from the game soundtrack are better in most ways, why not keep them? Of course, it wouldn't make sense to use only tracks from the game, since you need to match the music with individual scenes in the anime. A score is still needed. But a huge part of what makes Umineko Umineko is the great tracks. Yes, you can make a good adaptation while changing a lot of what made the original good. But lightning tends not to strike in the same place twice. The more they change from the games' original feel, the more they risk losing what makes these games great in the first place. __________________ "The only moral it is possible to draw from this story is that one should never throw the letter 'q' into a privet bush. But, unfortunately, there are times when it is unavoidable." --Hitchhikers www.witch-hunt.com Theory page

2009-04-19, 14:50	Link #523
Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	Ah i just imagine what would have happened if FFVII AC didn't have any single music from the original game XD __________________

2009-04-21, 17:55	Link #525
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	Yes, please do that. We have a thread for this where you can talk about all of this without risk of spoilering anyone. Take the discussion to that thread if you don't mind. __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux

2009-04-22, 11:39	Link #531
Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	dreamend discharger is probably the best he has composed, meaning he's getting even better over time. The violin parts are amazing. __________________

2009-04-22, 15:08	Link #533
kyouray 2D > 3D Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: France Age: 35	From Famitsu : __________________ Twitter

2009-04-21, 08:45	Link #524
patnam Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	i bet Kenji Kawai will make a great score for this anime series... therefore the opening and ending theme may in english version...

2009-04-22, 01:28	Link #526
izmosmolnar At the end of this world Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hungary, Europe Age: 39	Well I have nothing else to add regarding that, as I feel I let out everything already which was in my mind (IMO without giving anything away). I felt it was slightly related to the music-discussion here (at least I instinctively associated on the OP bgm, which led me to the OP itself). Please feel free to send me any lifesign or something, if my puzzling, borderline spoilerish replies were too much and I'll delete them .

2009-04-22, 07:35	Link #528
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	The track "far" is also very good. I had been listening to it on repeat.

2009-04-22, 15:13	Link #534
Blue-kun Che! Che! Che! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Age: 34	Battler sure looks like Phoenix Wright while objecting with that pose. Looking good, though. And the bishounen-ish look's really making my mind go wild while imagining it coupled with Daisuke (Fabulous) Ono's voice. __________________

2009-04-22, 15:22	Link #535
Coruja Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	Ohhh very nice!! ^^ Battler looks so handsome.

2009-04-22, 17:34	Link #536
UnknownBeast Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	Battler looks a bit young.. even if he's nineteen... and he doesn't look "big".. >_> Beato looks awesome though. :3 :3 :3 WAIT... takes a closer look Wait a sec... DID THEY MISCOLORED THE ROSE ON HER HEAD!?!!?

2009-04-22, 17:43	Link #537
momobunny ◔ ◡ ◔ Artist Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ImaginaryLand Age: 33	I really like how Battler looks, I like the colors and the style and the pose, Beatrice on the other hand... Also I like how Battler doesn't look super huge, even if he is tall he doesn't really need to be drawn as if he's a giant of anything. In the original game he doesn't really look like he's that tall anyway, and I don't really like how a lot of taller people in anime are drawn so seriously while everybody else looks normal. I'm sure we'll see the height difference when he's standing next to the others anyway... __________________

2009-04-22, 17:52	Link #538
aguspin2007 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	it seems so =w=U it's horrible with the yellow rose :S

2009-04-22, 18:19	Link #539
Crisano Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada	Really am impressed with the image. Really like the colors they choose for the characters. Definitely looking forward to this.

2009-04-22, 18:42	Link #540
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	Her hair is already yellow, why are they making her rose yellow!? orz Seriously, what are they thinking?