2012-04-26, 00:37 | Link #281 |
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Remember the Oschestra is madness and fight against many police forces before, they will prepare AP rounds to against ballistic shield, with riot shield, just normal 7.62x39 can penetrate it. And Valmet's shield is hit many time by his AP rounds before it is penetrated, not just first shot. No ballistic shield, even the level IV ones is design to prevent many AP rifle rounds . And maybe the ballisitc shield of those polices are below level III (and also is weaken by 40mm HE), because usually only SWAT can be equiped level III and above ones.
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2012-04-26, 01:31 | Link #282 |
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Well I dunno about you guys... It's not like I'm just looking for things to hate on but the terrible action in this episode just stands out really. I hope that future action scenes don't turn out like this really cause it's gonna be a major turn off for me since good action scenes are one of my expectations from this show.
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2012-04-26, 04:58 | Link #284 | |
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Especially since I don't see much intelligent dialog or well-developed characters so far. At least give me some good action!
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2012-04-26, 12:44 | Link #285 |
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Everyone wants something different from a series of course, so if the lack of realism bothers you that's perfectly legitimate. But it seems to me that it's more a problem of expectations than execution. If you walk into a Fellini or even Tarantino film looking for realistic events you're asking for disappointment, and it's the same with Jormungand. That's not really the point.
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2012-04-26, 13:16 | Link #286 |
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Actually the problem is the execution. There's no reason at all to make the action sequence suffer just to show Jonah is suicidal.
And TBH it's not like I'm expecting realistic action to enjoy this. Even if I tell myself "ok action in this anime will be unrealistic" I'd still have problems how they executed it. There are a lot of animes out there that showcase unrealistic gunfights but are still very enjoyable. This one falls under unrealistic and simply bad execution.
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2012-04-26, 17:12 | Link #288 | |
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I think they needed the Plaza to be bigger, that would have made the jarring bit of the action not cause as much consternation as it has. Still, as a big Black Lagoon fan, I can't say it bothered me much, lol. |
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2012-04-27, 00:13 | Link #290 | |
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Unless I'm wrong and there has been a case like that.
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2012-04-28, 16:31 | Link #292 | |
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tl; dr--Jonah was being stupid, show acknowledges that it was stupid, character development moment achieved
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2012-04-29, 05:33 | Link #297 |
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I don't want realistic gunfights. I want Jonah killing people with bullets ricocheting off the walls and the rain of shells from machine guns to be enough for someone to slip on them, banana-style
At least the characters get some exposition in every episode, and it's easy on the eyes, so I've got no problem adding it to my main weekly list. |
2012-04-29, 10:11 | Link #298 | |
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IIRC, there are mentions that Lehm was ex-Delta and saw action in Somalia in 1993, which would mean that he was part of Task Force Ranger, and a contemporary of Gordon and Shugart. This is probably why Jonah's method pisses him the fuck off, which is clearly evident. He doesn't raise his voice or anything, but by the end of the chewing out, Jonah is clearly cowed.
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2012-04-29, 15:08 | Link #300 | |
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But yeah, I am sure that ordinary soldiers have seen child soldiers but didn't have a chance to kill them. In the meantime, I await to see the M2 machine gun on Shisho's pick up turn the CRV into nothing.
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