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BBOvenGuy · 2017-02-18, 02:52

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Originally Posted by blakstealth

Was that knife there in season 1? I don't remember.

It didn't have to be. Yakumo could have "forgotten" it.

James Rye · 2017-02-18, 09:39

Honestly it was good that Yakumo lied about how her parents died to Konatsu. The truth would have been way too hard for a little kid to take and now the lie has become the truth to Konatsu over all the years that she could hardly believe the truth if told now. Man, her parents were really f@cked up, they were their own victims for sure, but also god-damn selfish fools.

Yota-chan crying and clinging to Konatsu was sweet and adorable especially given how he cries about and for her yet she doesn't know and teases him about it and he just keeps saying "It's nothing!" under tears.

Dop · 2017-02-18, 09:49

The scene in the park with the golden gingko leaves was absolutely gorgeous.

Then we get on to the old films of then Kikuhiko and the late Sukeroku's performance, and finally discover the truth of what really happened on that night years ago, rather than the version Yakumo told us in the first season.

Go back and compare, they're very different.

Kanon · 2017-02-18, 11:31

The truth is finally revealed. I really wish I hadn't been spoiled about it, seeing what happened would have been a greater shock than just reading about it. Yakumo did the right thing, there's no way a kid could have handled that kind of trauma. Can she now, though? She's always suspected there was something more to the incident, but there's no way she could have imagined she was the one accidentally responsible for it.

Seeing Kiku and Sukeroku's performances from season 1 was nostalgic. Yotaro commenting he had never seen his master so happy to perform rakugo really tug at the heartstrings.

BBOvenGuy · 2017-02-18, 14:22

We don't have all the truth yet, do we? We know that Miyo stabbed Sukeroku, but was he the intended target? Or did she come to stab Yakumo and Sukeroku got in the way?

Benigmatica · 2017-02-20, 06:49

Episodes 6 and 7:
Even though his master got hospitalized, the 3rd Generation Sukeroku made a stunning performance of “Inokori”! Now that's what I called entertainment!

Meanwhile, looks like that collapse has made the 8th Generation Yakumo to quit his rakugo career due to poor health. Still, I don't want him to end his life in a pathetic way. Hell, I don't want rakugo to die with him just because he saw his friend getting stabbed by Miyokichi and then Konatsu pushed her mother off the balcony. Yeah, that story is way more tragic than Season 1 Episode 12!

So, what's gonna be the future for Yotaro and the world of rakugo?

Dop · 2017-02-21, 06:14

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Originally Posted by BBOvenGuy

We don't have all the truth yet, do we? We know that Miyo stabbed Sukeroku, but was he the intended target? Or did she come to stab Yakumo and Sukeroku got in the way?

True, we've only seen part of what really happened. Only Yakumo knows the full truth and intends to carry that weight all the way to his grave.

Benigmatica · 2017-02-21, 07:23

I think that Miyokichi wanted to stab Yakumo, but Sukeroku took the hit instead. That's my theory.

Dop · 2017-02-24, 17:12

Oh man...

Spoiler for eight:

Someone give Ishida Akira all the voice acting awards, because the way he's played Yakumo from young man to old man who wants to die has been totally believable throughout.

blakstealth · 2017-02-24, 20:35

I honestly don't remember the gang boss and Yakumo having a connection at all.

Kanon · 2017-02-25, 17:58

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Originally Posted by blakstealth

I honestly don't remember the gang boss and Yakumo having a connection at all.

Me neither, but then again, it's been a year since the first season and he might have been a minor character in that one.

Dop · 2017-02-25, 18:28

Wasn't this the gang boss who wanted Yotaro to come back to the gang, but Yakumo talked him in to letting Yotaro go if he liked his rakugo, and took him to Yotaro's performance, which he liked and relinquished his hold? Pretty sure that's the connection.

BBOvenGuy · 2017-02-25, 18:56

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Originally Posted by blakstealth

I honestly don't remember the gang boss and Yakumo having a connection at all.

It was mentioned a couple of episodes back, when we found out he was Shin's bio-dad, that Yakumo had some kind of friendly/business relationship with him.

AC-Phoenix · 2017-02-25, 20:19

I just realized Konatsu's child is called Shinosuke. - Guess that is Rakugo's answer to Crayon Shin-Chan for all the rakugo inspired jokes

Gan_HOPE326 · 2017-02-26, 10:43

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Originally Posted by Dop

Wasn't this the gang boss who wanted Yotaro to come back to the gang, but Yakumo talked him in to letting Yotaro go if he liked his rakugo, and took him to Yotaro's performance, which he liked and relinquished his hold? Pretty sure that's the connection.

Wasn't the boss liking Yakumo's rakugo the very reason why he met Konatsu in the first place and possibly fathered Shinnosuke (I still didn't understand if we were supposed to take this at face value or think it ambiguous)?

Stark700 · 2017-03-03, 16:17

Incredible episode this week. A rakugo performance by Yakumo followed by the Shinigami scene...

This show just crossed to another level. Beautiful.

Jaden · 2017-03-03, 19:12

Maybe until now, some people thought Yakumo's getting over his past. Maybe that his hallucinations were just him getting into a role too much.

Well, this episode clears those doubts. Tripping like a madman, his performances have turned into occult rituals where he deliberately summons the dead to torment himself. Yeah he's pretty fucked up.

Kanon · 2017-03-04, 10:44

Yakumo's mental health is getting really really worrisome. This isn't the first time he thought he saw a ghost and he was always suicidal, but this episode took it to the next level. And here I thought he was getting better with his performance at the prison and the time spent with Shin.

Benigmatica · 2017-03-06, 04:45

Episodes 8 and 9:
It's sad that Yotarou's boss Isao Kido got arrested when he's looking forward for Yakumo's return. Still, he got what he wished for when the 8th Generation performed at the penitentiary.

On the other hand, Yakumo just "accidentally" burned the theater while performing Shinigami. Glad that the 3rd Generation Sukeroku rescued his master, but damn Yakumo almost got burned to death. Still, I fear that his senility would make it worse for the 8th Generation rakugoka.

Kismet-chan · 2017-03-10, 20:37

Episode 10:

I mainly needed to say that Yotaro and Konatsu were too adorable in this episode for my soul. I just shouted at the screen, "LOOK AT THOSE CUTIES!!!"

2017-02-18, 09:39	Link #82
James Rye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Germany	Honestly it was good that Yakumo lied about how her parents died to Konatsu. The truth would have been way too hard for a little kid to take and now the lie has become the truth to Konatsu over all the years that she could hardly believe the truth if told now. Man, her parents were really f@cked up, they were their own victims for sure, but also god-damn selfish fools. Yota-chan crying and clinging to Konatsu was sweet and adorable especially given how he cries about and for her yet she doesn't know and teases him about it and he just keeps saying "It's nothing!" under tears. __________________

2017-02-18, 11:31	Link #84
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	The truth is finally revealed. I really wish I hadn't been spoiled about it, seeing what happened would have been a greater shock than just reading about it. Yakumo did the right thing, there's no way a kid could have handled that kind of trauma. Can she now, though? She's always suspected there was something more to the incident, but there's no way she could have imagined she was the one accidentally responsible for it. Seeing Kiku and Sukeroku's performances from season 1 was nostalgic. Yotaro commenting he had never seen his master so happy to perform rakugo really tug at the heartstrings. __________________

2017-02-24, 17:12	Link #89
Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	Oh man... Spoiler for eight: When Yotaro started at the impromptu performance Yakumo had been dragged into, I thought "Oh, that's THAT story" - the one the previous Sukeroku did as his final performance. That whole sequence was just stunning, and it's perfectly understandable why Yotaro was crying - hell, I was sniffling a bit myself! I'm out of superlatives here... Someone give Ishida Akira all the voice acting awards, because the way he's played Yakumo from young man to old man who wants to die has been totally believable throughout.

2017-02-25, 20:19	Link #94
AC-Phoenix Detective Join Date: Aug 2010 Age: 36	I just realized Konatsu's child is called Shinosuke. - Guess that is Rakugo's answer to Crayon Shin-Chan for all the rakugo inspired jokes __________________ Those who forget about the past are condemned to repeat it - Santayana Sidenote: I'm seemingly too dumb for my current keyboard, so if you see the same character twice in a row, when it doesn't belong there just ignore it.

2017-03-03, 16:17	Link #96
Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	Incredible episode this week. A rakugo performance by Yakumo followed by the Shinigami scene... This show just crossed to another level. Beautiful. __________________

2017-02-18, 09:49	Link #83
Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	The scene in the park with the golden gingko leaves was absolutely gorgeous. Then we get on to the old films of then Kikuhiko and the late Sukeroku's performance, and finally discover the truth of what really happened on that night years ago, rather than the version Yakumo told us in the first season. Go back and compare, they're very different.

2017-02-18, 14:22	Link #85
BBOvenGuy Math Ninja Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura County CA Age: 59	We don't have all the truth yet, do we? We know that Miyo stabbed Sukeroku, but was he the intended target? Or did she come to stab Yakumo and Sukeroku got in the way?

2017-02-20, 06:49	Link #86
Benigmatica Deadpan Rambler Join Date: Nov 2012	Episodes 6 and 7: Even though his master got hospitalized, the 3rd Generation Sukeroku made a stunning performance of “Inokori”! Now that's what I called entertainment! Meanwhile, looks like that collapse has made the 8th Generation Yakumo to quit his rakugo career due to poor health. Still, I don't want him to end his life in a pathetic way. Hell, I don't want rakugo to die with him just because he saw his friend getting stabbed by Miyokichi and then Konatsu pushed her mother off the balcony. Yeah, that story is way more tragic than Season 1 Episode 12! So, what's gonna be the future for Yotaro and the world of rakugo?

2017-02-21, 07:23	Link #88
Benigmatica Deadpan Rambler Join Date: Nov 2012	I think that Miyokichi wanted to stab Yakumo, but Sukeroku took the hit instead. That's my theory.

2017-02-24, 20:35	Link #90
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	I honestly don't remember the gang boss and Yakumo having a connection at all.

2017-02-25, 18:28	Link #92
Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	Wasn't this the gang boss who wanted Yotaro to come back to the gang, but Yakumo talked him in to letting Yotaro go if he liked his rakugo, and took him to Yotaro's performance, which he liked and relinquished his hold? Pretty sure that's the connection.

2017-03-03, 19:12	Link #97
Jaden Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Maybe until now, some people thought Yakumo's getting over his past. Maybe that his hallucinations were just him getting into a role too much. Well, this episode clears those doubts. Tripping like a madman, his performances have turned into occult rituals where he deliberately summons the dead to torment himself. Yeah he's pretty fucked up. __________________

2017-03-04, 10:44	Link #98
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Yakumo's mental health is getting really really worrisome. This isn't the first time he thought he saw a ghost and he was always suicidal, but this episode took it to the next level. And here I thought he was getting better with his performance at the prison and the time spent with Shin. __________________

2017-03-06, 04:45	Link #99
Benigmatica Deadpan Rambler Join Date: Nov 2012	Episodes 8 and 9: It's sad that Yotarou's boss Isao Kido got arrested when he's looking forward for Yakumo's return. Still, he got what he wished for when the 8th Generation performed at the penitentiary. On the other hand, Yakumo just "accidentally" burned the theater while performing Shinigami. Glad that the 3rd Generation Sukeroku rescued his master, but damn Yakumo almost got burned to death. Still, I fear that his senility would make it worse for the 8th Generation rakugoka.

2017-03-10, 20:37	Link #100
Kismet-chan The Chaotic Dreamer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In a cruel yet beautiful world Age: 32	Episode 10: I mainly needed to say that Yotaro and Konatsu were too adorable in this episode for my soul. I just shouted at the screen, "LOOK AT THOSE CUTIES!!!" __________________