2011-02-08, 12:33 | Link #7761 |
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As expected, the story finally gave some focus to Wataru, Saki and Sakuya. Basically, Saki tried to find a job to help Wataru, but at the end he told her not to worry, since he'd make things work in the end.
I wonder if we'll get an Isumi chapter next. I think she's the only one who hasn't shown up at all during this arc. I suppose Ayumu will be re-appearing soon, since, even though she has shown up during this arc, she hasn't shown up in quite some time. Anyway, I hope Hata goes back to Luca soon.
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2011-02-08, 14:09 | Link #7762 |
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I would be quite happy to get either an Isumi or Ayumu chapter next.
It seems I predicted right that Hata would be continuing the neglected character side story tour for awhile before resuming the Nagi/Luca arc. I'm guessing another 5 chapters or so of self-contained stories. Hata reaaally seems to hate doing timeskips of more then a day or two, but we've had enough chapters already to fill about a week since the con ended. Another week worth of fluff chapters would put us within about a week of the flashforward, which seems an intuitive time to pick things up again. |
2011-02-08, 16:12 | Link #7763 |
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I think what we're seeing here is the classic example of a story which has been running for too long without shedding characters. In the end, you lose months just trying to give the secondary lineup a small GLIMPSE which is little more than a brief nod in their direction, but certainly no satisfying storyline progression for anybody.
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2011-02-08, 16:22 | Link #7764 |
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Well, this is one of the problems when you add far too many characters in a story. Either you neglect them, or you have to dedicate time to them which could very well be used on more important issues. But well, this is an issue you find in a good number of anime and manga.
I also think that, perhaps, Hata uses these sort of chapters to give himself some time to write how some future events should play out in advance.
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2011-02-08, 16:58 | Link #7765 | ||
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for fiction, it can be anyone the author deemed worthy. heck it can even be a trash collector for all i care. i put my two cents on the whole genius business already -- based on what i learned and what i practice at work. if you don't think it's correct, it's no prob. this will be my last reply on that one Quote:
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2011-02-08, 19:22 | Link #7766 | |
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Rereading volume 8, Miki also calls Maria a genius, equates Hinagiku's intelligence as her equal, and makes no mention of Athena at all. Also, apparently Athena wasn't able to become school president her first year, while the other two did. Apparently Athena's rating of 'one of the schools' greatest genius'' ranks Athena, at best, at third place in Miki's book. Of course, with Miki being just above failing her own classes makes her rating system a little questionable. This is done in the arc right before Athena's first appearance in Hayate's flashback, so there's very little probability of it being a retcon that she's a genius.
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2011-02-08, 19:33 | Link #7767 |
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The longer this series runs, the more annoyed I get when I read chapters that don't focus on the "main story". I put "main story" in brackets because there isn't exactly one, but by that I mean the "Nagi lost her fortune and has to rebuild from scratch" plot and "A-tan lost her memories and has to get them back" plot. Those are far more interesting to me than fluff about Saki, Wataru, Sakuya and the other periphery characters.
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2011-02-08, 21:38 | Link #7768 | |
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The phrase Miki used was: "She's most likely the greatest genius out of all the students who have ever gone to Hakuou" meant that the possibility of her being the greatest genius in Hakuou is higher than all of the students who have ever gone there. How you interpreted was: "She's one of the school's greatest geniuses" meant that there are other great geniuses like her in the school and she's one of them. I thought it can easily be understood when I quoted the statement for you before, but god was I wrong...Well, whatever...I have learned my lesson. |
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2011-02-08, 21:45 | Link #7769 | |
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She clearly stated that only Hinagiku and Maria are gifted enough to be president of the school, which means that Athena was not.
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2011-02-08, 22:18 | Link #7770 | |
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Miki realized that Hinagiku and Maria, the prodigy, were extremely capable people since they both became the SCP. Yet, even though Miki realized how capable Maria and Hinagiku were, she was still refer Athena as "She's (Athena) most likely the greatest genius out of all the students who have ever gone to Hakuou" which put Athena above both Maria and Hinagiku. Miki deemed Athena so extraordinary that she'd be hesitant just to approach Athena, and referred to herself as "a normal student" who never had the honor to talk to Athena. That's how great she thinks Athena is compare to Maria and Hina. Like I said before, Athena never became the SCP could be because she was already the Board Chairman, and Miki knew that Athena was the Board Chairman which had no need for her to become the SCP. (Ok...start ignoring...) Last edited by zodanhko; 2011-02-08 at 23:52. |
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2011-02-09, 02:01 | Link #7771 | ||
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The chapter in question was a precursor to Athena's first appearance. Hata already had the character basics in mind when that statement was written. And that's even if you don't subscribe to the belief that Hata already had Athena planned from the beginning (which the RG already was). Quote:
I say again, I can state that Hinagiku is one of my favorite characters in this manga and it be a true statement. It doesn't change the fact that Hinagiku in my personal favorites is generally 5th place, and 4th is the highest she's gotten. To apply that to Miki's statement, Miki clearly places Athena's show of intelligence above most of the students, but doesn't necessarily automatically place her as #1. I've tried ignoring several times during this conversation. Hasn't worked yet, I don't want to leave your points unanswered because then other readers wouldn't realize that the statements don't make sense.
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2011-02-09, 03:13 | Link #7772 | |
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According to Miki, it was very clear that she placed Athena above every student including Maria and Hinagiku, and it will still be valid regardless of what the SCP ordeal was because Miki placed Athena above them both EVEN AFTER she realized that Maria and Hinagiku were the only freshmen with the SCP title. That means that, in Miki's eye, the SCP title was meaningless when comparing to Athena. According to Miki (a student council member), the TRIO, "normal students" as they admitted when comparing themselves to Athena, didn't even have the honor to talk to Athena while they can easily meet and speak with the student council members. That indicated that Athena's position could be even more 'special' than the SCP itself, which only Athena had gotten (meaning she was capable to achieve something greater than the SCP while the other two had achieved the SCP title). It could easily be true giving how high the TRIO think of Athena. Last edited by zodanhko; 2011-02-09 at 03:24. |
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2011-02-09, 09:02 | Link #7773 |
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I'm a newcomer to this thread, so bear with me, but...what's the point of arguing about whether Athena is a genius or not? And what difference does it make whether she's smarter than Maria and Hinagiku or not?
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2011-02-09, 10:01 | Link #7774 | |
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2011-02-09, 14:58 | Link #7777 | |
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Its like I've said before...like her or not, both her fans and her "haters" are very vocal so shitstorms always follows her name so might as well get used to it.
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2011-02-09, 15:15 | Link #7778 |
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You know, with Wataru starting up a new business soon...maybe he'll become Nagi's editor/publisher? He was really talking up the growth potential of the doujinshi market at the first con.
Heck, maybe he'll start up his own circle or magazine and starts publishing Nagi, Luca, and Yukiji (Hey, someone has got to fill pages. Throw in Kaoru and Kotetsu if you want.) all at once. |
2011-02-09, 16:05 | Link #7779 | |
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