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bastek66 · 2013-05-04, 21:03

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Anime Online · 2013-05-04, 21:28

I felt sort of let down by the tension build-up between Tsukiko and Tsukushi. The whole thing came down to Tsukushi wanting to marry Tsukiko and her marriage blues? It just felt kinda .. dumb, especially since Tsukushi seemed like the reliable and protective older sister, not someone with a screw loose.

When Tsukiko said, "I don't know where to start", I'm thinking, "Yes, Tsukiko, I fully agree with you"

takai · 2013-05-04, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Anime Online

I felt sort of let down by the tension build-up between Tsukiko and Tsukushi. The whole thing came down to Tsukushi wanting to marry Tsukiko and her marriage blues? It just felt kinda .. dumb, especially since Tsukushi seemed like the reliable and protective older sister, not someone with a screw loose.

When Tsukiko said, "I don't know where to start", I'm thinking, "Yes, Tsukiko, I fully agree with you"

Completely agree with you. Which is why I previously said it completely obliterated her respectability. It's lie the author wasn't even thinking.

A complete waste of a very attractive girl.

Iron Maw · 2013-05-04, 22:56

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Well, obviously that's something to explain later. My best guess at this point is that it was cursed by someone. And so, if they can figure out who (what?) was responsible for cursing it, there may still be a way to get Tsukiko's emotions back (along with, apparently, the "other big thing" that was recently lost?)

Don't forget that it's likely responsible for why Yokodera's house is gone. Honestly, I'm surprised that none of the three are talking more about this or atleast freaked out by what happened.

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Originally Posted by Anime Online

I felt sort of let down by the tension build-up between Tsukiko and Tsukushi. The whole thing came down to Tsukushi wanting to marry Tsukiko and her marriage blues? It just felt kinda .. dumb, especially since Tsukushi seemed like the reliable and protective older sister, not someone with a screw loose.

When Tsukiko said, "I don't know where to start", I'm thinking, "Yes, Tsukiko, I fully agree with you"

We're talking about the same person who whole heartily believed one of worst lies ever.

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-05-04, 23:14

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Don't forget that it's likely responsible for why Yokodera's house is gone. Honestly, I'm surprised that none of the three are talking more about this or atleast freaked out by what happened.

Well, that was the "other big thing" I was referring to, but was trying not to say outright due to not everyone have seen the subs yet.

But anyway, that happened right at the end of the episode, so we haven't seen anyone else's reactions yet.

MeoTwister5 · 2013-05-04, 23:40

Okay... uh... the last 10 minutes is one of those most ridiculous revelations I have ever seen. Compounding this is that Yokodera is one of those typical marriages of atypical wisdom and dumbass so... yeah...

RapidPotential · 2013-05-05, 00:06

I had an inkling Tsukushi was someone who lacked common sense but this episode hammered in that fact so hard. All the drama was built up for an extreme anti-climax (wanting to marry your own blood-related sister, really now

). Her clumsy affection for Tsukiko was amusing, to say the least.

Also, she fell for Yokodera's lie. Come on now, you should know better than to fall for that hook, line and sinker.

Yokodera's house disappeared all of a sudden. Poor dude.

Lukeman1884 · 2013-05-05, 00:29

So why didn't Tsukiko want her emotions back then? Her original reason was because she thought they were what was causing the rift between her and her sister, but now that's obviously not the case. Is it so she's still got a reason to be with Yokodera? But then that begs the question as to why she was distancing herself afterwards. Or is she just trying to play hard-to-get?

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-05-05, 01:15

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So why didn't Tsukiko want her emotions back then? Her original reason was because she thought they were what was causing the rift between her and her sister, but now that's obviously not the case. Is it so she's still got a reason to be with Yokodera? But then that begs the question as to why she was distancing herself afterwards. Or is she just trying to play hard-to-get?

Well, obviously this will factor into the plot going forward, so I don't know if there is a clear answer at this point... My guess is that it's because Youto saw her as a younger sister, and not as a potential love interest. Therefore, she thinks that if she gets her old emotions back, she'll be back to her "immature" self, and he'll continue to see her in that light. She still mistakenly believes that being able to hide your emotions is the path to "maturity". And so, going forward, she's going to have to be proven wrong.

As for why she's distancing herself from him now, I'm supposing she might figure that she needs to distance herself so that she can "grow up more" so that Youto will recognize her maturity (and again, not see her as a little sister or someone to pity). For all intents and purposes, the pretence they had for being together (in her mind) is over, now that she "chose" to not get her emotions back. (Of course, the curse of the stony cat statue has other plans...)

SQA · 2013-05-05, 01:49

With Tsukiko, we're in a situation where you can't read her expressions (which is a major way of showing emotion in animation), so you have to interpret via her actions. The truth is that Yokodera hurt her bad. He pretty much just flat our rejected her when she's shown pretty obvious signs of interest. Not the least of which is spending time that she didn't have to with him.

If you think a guy responds badly to being "friendzoned", you've never seen it happen to a girl in real life. It doesn't happen anywhere as close to as often, but it's normally a ballistic response from them. Especially since both Tsukiko and Azusa are both cute (and know it) already. Though Yokodera doesn't have a reputation to destroy, so it's not like they could do much to injure him.

So, while I have 0 clue how to take what happened with the Queen of Steel, it's pretty easy to understand what's going on with Tsukiko. She got rejected and she's hurt, at the moment.

Iron Maw · 2013-05-05, 02:14

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Originally Posted by SQA

So, while I have 0 clue how to take what happened with the Queen of Steel, it's pretty easy to understand what's going on with Tsukiko. She got rejected and she's hurt, at the moment.

King, it's Steel King.

Get it right.

Tyabann · 2013-05-05, 02:19

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A complete waste of a very attractive girl.

On the contrary, I think it's quite an improvement. Now she's easily the most interesting heroine.

Kyuu · 2013-05-05, 03:55

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I felt sort of let down by the tension build-up between Tsukiko and Tsukushi. The whole thing came down to Tsukushi wanting to marry Tsukiko and her marriage blues? It just felt kinda .. dumb, especially since Tsukushi seemed like the reliable and protective older sister, not someone with a screw loose.

Yea, that was utterly retarded. Sure, I'll take the incest jokes attributed with Oreimo. But here? Give me a break.

Seitsuki · 2013-05-05, 04:13

You fools, this is pure genius. All shipping problems solved at a stroke! Yuri, incest, imouto/oneechan, there's something for everyone! Banzai!

scr · 2013-05-05, 04:55

^ Couldn't agree more, man.

10/10, what a tweest, totally didn't see it coming; i know that this show is weird since the storybook scene, but i don't know that it's going to throw this kind of ball.

NoemiChan · 2013-05-05, 05:07

Episode 5

I lost the tiniest respect for Tsukiko's aneki.... Kimoi, Hentai, Shiine Kudasai!!!!!!!

whitecloud · 2013-05-05, 05:57

Massachuset.....and the both of them such a siscon that it make tsukiko embarrassed...

By the way...is there really gay marriage there?

Seitsuki · 2013-05-05, 06:07

In Massachusetts? Yeah.

Like Tsukiko mentioned though, incest isn't.

However there are plenty of places where that is legal as well... /cough.

FredFriendly · 2013-05-05, 06:12

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Massachuset.....and the both of them such a siscon that it make tsukiko embarrassed...

By the way...is there really gay marriage there?

Not only is same-sex marriage legal in Massachusetts, there is also currently in process the very first trial of one married lesbian accused of murdering her legally married lesbian spouse.

Lord of Fire · 2013-05-05, 06:30

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Episode 5

I lost the tiniest respect for Tsukiko's aneki.... Kimoi, Hentai, Shiine Kudasai!!!!!!!

Do you have a time machine or something? You've apparently seen next week's episode already.

Anyway, so both Azusa and Tsukiko are now friendzoned. But while Azusa seems to have somewhat accepted that fate, I think Tsukiko is far from done with him yet, and that he eventually will fall for her.

As for Tsukushi's incestuous love for Tsukiko, why does that somehow 'degrade' her character? Youta lied ton her twice (first about why he was so active in the T&F Club and now that he had a twin brother, who was dating Tsukiko), and she keeps on believing him. Doesn't really make her look like the sharpest knife in drawer to me (her tough appearance seems only a front to me, especially after how easily Youta could shatter it when he found out the truth).

And I don't think the statue lost its power, given that Youta's wish never got undone, meaning that he'll be forced to stay at either Azusa or Tsukiko's place (probably the latter, as that coincides with his desire to act as Tsukiko's big brother).

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MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	Okay... uh... the last 10 minutes is one of those most ridiculous revelations I have ever seen. Compounding this is that Yokodera is one of those typical marriages of atypical wisdom and dumbass so... yeah... __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

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Seitsuki Onee! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ	You fools, this is pure genius. All shipping problems solved at a stroke! Yuri, incest, imouto/oneechan, there's something for everyone! Banzai! __________________ thanks to Patchy ♥

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scr my sides are in orbit Join Date: Nov 2007	^ Couldn't agree more, man. 10/10, what a tweest, totally didn't see it coming; i know that this show is weird since the storybook scene, but i don't know that it's going to throw this kind of ball. __________________ If there's a Final Fantasy game that I must put my personal seal of disapproval on, it's Crisis Core. I mean, just look at how this Genesis Rhapsodos dude is raping the canon. It's bad. As in, fanfiction bad.

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Seitsuki Onee! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ	In Massachusetts? Yeah. Like Tsukiko mentioned though, incest isn't. However there are plenty of places where that is legal as well... /cough. __________________ thanks to Patchy ♥

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bastek66 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	The MOOOOON WHY, JC WHY

2013-05-04, 21:28	Link #542
Anime Online Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	I felt sort of let down by the tension build-up between Tsukiko and Tsukushi. The whole thing came down to Tsukushi wanting to marry Tsukiko and her marriage blues? It just felt kinda .. dumb, especially since Tsukushi seemed like the reliable and protective older sister, not someone with a screw loose. When Tsukiko said, "I don't know where to start", I'm thinking, "Yes, Tsukiko, I fully agree with you"

2013-05-05, 00:06	Link #547
RapidPotential Spinning round and round~ Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Singapore Age: 32	I had an inkling Tsukushi was someone who lacked common sense but this episode hammered in that fact so hard. All the drama was built up for an extreme anti-climax (wanting to marry your own blood-related sister, really now ). Her clumsy affection for Tsukiko was amusing, to say the least. Also, she fell for Yokodera's lie. Come on now, you should know better than to fall for that hook, line and sinker. Yokodera's house disappeared all of a sudden. Poor dude.

2013-05-05, 00:29	Link #548
Lukeman1884 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011	So why didn't Tsukiko want her emotions back then? Her original reason was because she thought they were what was causing the rift between her and her sister, but now that's obviously not the case. Is it so she's still got a reason to be with Yokodera? But then that begs the question as to why she was distancing herself afterwards. Or is she just trying to play hard-to-get?

2013-05-05, 01:49	Link #550
SQA Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	With Tsukiko, we're in a situation where you can't read her expressions (which is a major way of showing emotion in animation), so you have to interpret via her actions. The truth is that Yokodera hurt her bad. He pretty much just flat our rejected her when she's shown pretty obvious signs of interest. Not the least of which is spending time that she didn't have to with him. If you think a guy responds badly to being "friendzoned", you've never seen it happen to a girl in real life. It doesn't happen anywhere as close to as often, but it's normally a ballistic response from them. Especially since both Tsukiko and Azusa are both cute (and know it) already. Though Yokodera doesn't have a reputation to destroy, so it's not like they could do much to injure him. So, while I have 0 clue how to take what happened with the Queen of Steel, it's pretty easy to understand what's going on with Tsukiko. She got rejected and she's hurt, at the moment.

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NoemiChan Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Age: 36	Episode 5 I lost the tiniest respect for Tsukiko's aneki.... Kimoi, Hentai, Shiine Kudasai!!!!!!!

2013-05-05, 05:57	Link #557
whitecloud Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Massachuset.....and the both of them such a siscon that it make tsukiko embarrassed... By the way...is there really gay marriage there?