Utawarerumono Strategy-RPG translated!

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Interesting. But no, that doesn't buy much time. I destroyed the rocks on the very edges of the barriers, freed Dorii and Guraa, then once the second-to-last gate was attacked/destroyed, I had Oboro stay back to be bait (because he has a lot of turns and has a huge movement range) while the others ran around the rocks once the Av Kamiw got too close. I never attacked once. It doesn't do anything, anyway. You don't have to worry about destroying the rocks at the far edges of the screen because the Av kamiw just barrel up through the center. If you go to the far edges, they will still go to the gate first, then maneuver around the rocks rather than destroy them. I noticed they did this on all modes except normal. In normal, they purposely destroy all the rocks first if you stay away from them, which buys you time.

[Hypertaost]

(no luck at these types of games, nuwagi is killing me, again, for the 4th time) I deeply regret not boosting up the attack more, for some reason I can only do half my normal damadge...

A short question: if a character levels during a battle that you loses, do you still keep the level up?
Actually, I'm gonna change that: if you die, try again, and then save at the character selections screen, will your bp from the time you died also be kept?

in other words, how do you lose bp? is it possible?

[Vexx]

o damn... how did I miss this? I actually *have* the freaking game stored away.... as a reward for learning Japanese. Meh!

(runs off to download patch....)

[Hypertaost]

Another question coming.... What is tech for? I found 2 faqs but neither of them mention this. and what's that unlimited tech glitch that people kept talking about?

[KaneDragon]

Tech increases the number of attacks you can do (there's a tutorial for combo attacks). The additional attacks get rapidly weaker, but if you max tech, you can perform a special attack when your VIT is maxed that does a ton of damage. The archers max tech with just one increase.

And I haven't noticed anyone talking about any "unlimited tech glitch"...

[Aquillion]

Eruruu also hits max tech after one upgrade (and it's worth doing for her, I think, so you can use her super in pinch. Although remember her attack raises her healing ability... and she needs a lot of defense so she doesn't get one-shotted the first time you make a mistake.)

In general, I think the second hit adds about 30% damage... additional ones add less and less, but the final one (which costs all your VIT) does massive damage (often enough to one-hit lesser mooks if you're using a high-attack character.) If you haven't maxed tech, though, you don't get the super final... in fact, you can still spend vit to do one more attack than your tech would allow, but it won't amount to much.

The tutorial that unlocks around the time you can afford your first tech upgrade shows you how to do it, but just click on the concentric circles when they hit the character, just like Elite Beat Agents (although I don't think you actually have to click on them.) Oh, and if you're horrible at the circles, hold 'alt' to auto-hit each of them... which reduces your overall damage on the bonus hits, but not the main hit or the super, which are where most of it comes from anyway. It's not a cheat... the tutorial tells you how to do it, and you're making a trade-off with the damage.

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Originally Posted by Hypertaost

(no luck at these types of games, nuwagi is killing me, again, for the 4th time) I deeply regret not boosting up the attack more, for some reason I can only do half my normal damadge...

A short question: if a character levels during a battle that you loses, do you still keep the level up?
Actually, I'm gonna change that: if you die, try again, and then save at the character selections screen, will your bp from the time you died also be kept?

in other words, how do you lose bp? is it possible?

I think you gain some BP after losing and retrying. I tried a level over twelve times on Hard Mode 3 and 4, and I ended up with 600+ BP for the characters that did more damage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you gain 10 BP for every enemy you kill, plus whatever base amount of BP, depending on the character.

For people that like specials: Watch it while using specials on tough opponents, because when you have max vitality, your stats recieve a small boost. It's not visible on your stats, but I did notice my characters taking more damage when their vitaility was not full, such as right after a special. Persoanlly, I have not yet gotten Eruruu's special yet because I pump everything I have into her att and def stats. Otherwise my characters die (most notably Hakuoro on the Harder levels), and that's always a pain.

On harder levels, I suggest keeping your characters together more often than on easier setttings. I noticed that the AI is more organized and surrounds a character and pummels them if they get separated. Just something to keep in mind while moving about in battle.

[ArchmageXin]

Anyone ever tried seriously to use Magic? It is like not only your character need to stand still for a turn, it does horribly bad AoE damage.

Spoiler for Ender spoiler:

And yes, the game is more implicit with his returning, if nothing else, Elu turning around face the screen in the anime was a smile (I.E just smiling to the audience as a thank you for watching thing), and the game final screen is Elu turning around in suprise. Also, several other characters implicitly called out Hakuro's name as opposed in the anime.

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Originally Posted by ArchmageXin

Anyone ever tried seriously to use Magic? It is like not only your character need to stand still for a turn, it does horribly bad AoE damage.

I have. Urutorii's magic comes in handy near the end of the game, where her Light magic attack has a huge range and damage. It comes in handy when there's a huge gruop of enemies that I just need weakened, especially when it comes to the Av Kamiw. Frankly, though, it's more like a helper than anything, so I don't relyon Urto or Kamyu much. My heavy hitters were Oboro, Touka, Karura, and Dorii.

[Aquillion]

Originally Posted by Spectacular_Insanity

I have. Urutorii's magic comes in handy near the end of the game, where her Light magic attack has a huge range and damage. It comes in handy when there's a huge gruop of enemies that I just need weakened, especially when it comes to the Av Kamiw. Frankly, though, it's more like a helper than anything, so I don't relyon Urto or Kamyu much. My heavy hitters were Oboro, Touka, Karura, and Dorii.

Eh. It helps a little, yes, but I think having another heavy-hitter helps a lot more.

On the lower difficulties, where enemies are stupid and easy to herd, magic is a lot more useful. But on the higher difficulties it's important to have more people capable of taking hits and blocking them off while dealing damage.

[Lynx190]

Also, on Hard 5 enemies have an insane amount of magic defense; by the time you're even able to use magic, magic defense stats are into the 70's and 80's, you just can't even deal any damage in the first place.

[Hypertaost]

Originally Posted by KaneDragon

And I haven't noticed anyone talking about any "unlimited tech glitch"...

I read about that in the visual news gemot. http://forums.visualnews.net/showpos...1&postcount=35 No Idea how true it is though.

[KaneDragon]

Pfft. No explanation of exactly what/how, no follow up by other posters, just bragging. Irritates me. I'll call BS until someone explains the trick. I'm away from my normal computer, so I can't go back and check it in game.

[Hypertaost]

Just finished playing, still crying a little bit. I love the story, But I think that they should have explained somethings better

Spoiler for spoiler:

Kamyu's vampireism, how #63 survived, How did the blond priestiess (forgot her name) open the electronic door with magic, wether the door was magic or not, How Eruruw ended up with the key, wether hakuro's body is that of iceman's or not, and if it is, why didn't "diy" use that body, the contract with Eruruw, why Eruruw didn't die even though Hakuro cancelled the contract, why the mask fell into Eruru's hand (where did it come from?) etc, etc

[KaneDragon]

Your questions mostly have clear answers, if you pay more attention.

Spoiler for entire game:

Originally Posted by Hypertaost

Kamyu's vampireism

Possession by Mitsumi. She's pretty kinky, I guess.

Originally Posted by Hypertaost

How Eruruw ended up with the key

She's a descendant of Makoto. It was passed down as an heirloom.

Originally Posted by Hypertaost

wether hakuro's body is that of iceman's or not

It is.

Originally Posted by Hypertaost

and if it is, why didn't "diy" use that body,

Originally, it did. But then the god-thing got split in two by the orbital laser. One half kept Iceman, the other eventually ended up possessing Diy.

Originally Posted by Hypertaost

Eruruw didn't die even though Hakuro cancelled the contract

Eruruu was never dead to begin with, so why should she do so then? Words, words, words. Hakuoro tried several times to convince Karura that their contract was off.

Originally Posted by Hypertaost

why the mask fell into Eruru's hand (where did it come from?)

It fell off of Hakuoro, of course. It was no longer necessary. Yet another piece of evidence for Hakuoro's implied return in the epilogue.

[Lynx190]

Spoiler:

In regards to the key, actually I've questioned how the baby ended up surviving in the first place in order for the key to get handed down... the baby was somewhere in the facility when Iceman went berserk, it would have had to survive the slimes and the facility getting destroyed, then get reunited with the other animal-people. I guess Mutsumi must have rescued the baby, that's the only logical explanation.

[KaneDragon]

Originally Posted by Lynx190

Spoiler:

In regards to the key, actually I've questioned how the baby ended up surviving in the first place in order for the key to get handed down... the baby was somewhere in the facility when Iceman went berserk, it would have had to survive the slimes and the facility getting destroyed, then get reunited with the other animal-people. I guess Mutsumi must have rescued the baby, that's the only logical explanation.

Or maybe the other animal-people carried her out. Everyone was inside at first.

Magic in general is a little weird considering the setting, so explanations for everything have their limit.

[Hypertaost]

Originally Posted by KaneDragon

Or maybe the other animal-people carried her out. Everyone was inside at first.
Magic in general is a little weird considering the setting, so explanations for everything have their limit.

Spoiler for ending:

no, they got released before that. and there's no way the child could have passed it down to someone else. dissected, remember?

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Originally Posted by Hypertaost

Spoiler for ending:

no, they got released before that. and there's no way the child could have passed it down to someone else. dissected, remember?

Spoiler for :

Only the mother, Mikoto, was confirmed dissected. We never knew anything about the child. I think the child survived. That's what Hakuoro realized about Eruruu before the end.

[ruku320]

nevermind....