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10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 113 | 61.08% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 44 | 23.78% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 13 | 7.03% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 7 | 3.78% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 4 | 2.16% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.54% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.54% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 2 | 1.08% | |
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2012-09-03, 13:25 | Link #441 |
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On the topic of dual wield it makes since to me that Kirito unlocked this ability after clocking a ton of hours using a one handed sword style. While other had played it safe by adopting builds with two handed weapons and shilds Kirito stayed with the same defult style since since the start of the game which is why no one has seen it before.
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2012-09-03, 13:42 | Link #443 | |
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Unless Kirito has spend about 21.900 hours (about 80% of the two years) leveling. He seems to be "that" obsessed. Last edited by EnOfEridu; 2012-09-03 at 16:06. Reason: As pointed below, katanas are usually two handed. |
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2012-09-03, 14:21 | Link #444 | |
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Klein used curved blades in order to use katanas and their skils Asuna used fencing weapons because of the extra added bonus of speed increase. So yes the only explaination would be that Kirito used the same defult style and not out of obsession but because that's what worked best for him.
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2012-09-03, 14:30 | Link #445 | |
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And what if they had spent nearly the same time lvling up, and it was only a few minutes or seconds of delay between them? Edit: As for me I'd go either with : Only the one with the highest reaction, since it's harder than to play with only 1 sword, I mean, you'll be the ONLY ONE with that ammount of reaction, right? Or : It could be due to going solo with only 1 sword for so long? If you meant this, then I'm sorry, and I would kind of agree with you. Edit 2: Being the one with the highest reaction, what I mean is, a reaction like the system, or going even further than what the system is able to do. Last edited by Karakuri; 2012-09-03 at 14:41. |
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2012-09-03, 15:00 | Link #447 | |
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I think that SAO wants to mirror an actual Tolkien-esque Fantasy story to some degree, so you get a lot of middle-aged soldiers/knights/warriors since you tend to get them a lot in those sorts of Fantasy stories.
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So there's still some ambiguity here, just a lot less since we know much more about SAO now. Quote:
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2012-09-03, 15:05 | Link #450 |
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I don't think that's odd...When I played Metin2 most of my guild members were 30-ish, 40-ish years old...only like...30% were 20-ish years old and 15-ish...
Not to mention, this game was just released, older people can pay the game for themselves, children can not, unless they get some payment for helping in the house or w.e. But I honestly don't think it's odd...Probably 50% of the times you see a top player it's someone who is like 30 years old or 25-29? I remember the leader of a good friend of mine was the TOP Character of his server ( I got to say...the class he played was OP, so yeah...kind of normal ) and he was, about 35 years old, IIRC. But of course, older people have the highest chances of going further to the top, they can pay for the game as much as they want every month, some children can not behave the same way, since the money isn't theirs, but their parents'. |
2012-09-03, 15:12 | Link #451 |
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Just a quick google search for "mmo age demographics" shows a study that says 25% of MMO gamers are teenagers, 50% have full time jobs, 36% are married, and 22% have children. And apparently 40% are female. The average age is 26.
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2012-09-03, 15:16 | Link #452 |
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@Karakuri
This is a good question but since we don't know the full indepth SAO game mechanics all we can do is find our own explanations through our own experience with video games. So bare with ne because most of this is half guessing. While its true that Kirito may not be the only one still using the one handed sword style. How many of them are at Kirito's level and still using it? Asuna said in this very episode that many players give up on the defult sword style of one hand as soon as the unlock stronger weapons yet Kirito is the only one she sees in the higher levels still using it. Now I don't think Kirito knew he'd get this dual wield skill as a result. Also another thing to note is that while everyone has been in this game for a couple of years now and think they have everything figured out there are bound to be a few things over looked. Oh I thought you ment reaction like agility or dex but your talking about something like Neo from the matrix?
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2012-09-03, 15:24 | Link #453 | |
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What I mean by reaction is: Going at the same speed the system goes, or surpass it. Something amongst those lines, like...how could I say it...the System has always a maximum number of speed it can handle, right? Like, in every game you always have a maximum of attack speed, movement speed, criticals, w.e... Kirito could reach its maximum, which no one had ever done so far, or he could've surpassed it by any chance...even if by a tiny bit? I don't know if it's possible, just a guess...Nothing has shown this game has a cap at anything...so...I may be wrong. Edit: Or being able to have such a high reaction that he is able to be the one controlling his skills. |
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2012-09-03, 15:26 | Link #454 | |
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Now that i think about, i found the justification as to why he broke the sword in the episode with Liz. He had to be sure that the "dual sword parry" would work. Elucidator is so strong, making that parry would break the weaker sword and leave him helpless. So he HAD to break the first work, to test it. |
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2012-09-03, 15:41 | Link #456 | |
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It's 2012. Anyone that was 10 in 1980, and got into playing videogames in their teens or in college, would now be in their 40s. Anyone born in 1980 that grew up playing videogames would now be in their 30s. That's ignoring people that would have started playing in arcades in the 1970s. Not all of them are going to have dropped videogames as they got older. And that's just today, SAO starts in 2022. Those same people would now be in their 40s and 50s. Obviously it'll skew towards people in their 20s who are most likely to have both disposable time and income (out of school, unmarried or no children) but it shouldn't be a surprise that it's primarily adults in SAO. |
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2012-09-03, 15:48 | Link #457 | |
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Plus I can also imagine some parents who "bought the game for their kids" (in giant quotes), but "just wanted to try it out to make sure it was safe" or whatever so they could be part of the launch. Little did they know...
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2012-09-03, 15:48 | Link #458 | |
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I've played many MMOs and I'd only met a few girls...In Metin I've only met about 15 women out of...well...you know about 2000 + players? ( I'm not saying those girls I see are the only one that exist ) However, I do think if we put all games together, and not MMOs only, it is possible that girls are 40% of the players ( or maybe even 50% ). But in MMOs...I don't think it can really be true...not to mention those studies were about 4 years ago or 3, it may have changed drastically, so I won't say it was wrong. Neither could I say it was wrong even if it was made today. It's just me guessing, from MMO games experiences I've had...I can't help but feel there are 70% + male gamers...Maybe I'm just stupid for thinking this, but well... |
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2012-09-03, 15:50 | Link #459 | |
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When duels were mentioned during the Murder Case, the example given was a "until HP drops below 50%" match. That way, the match will last longer, allow them to observe the opponent and the outcome won't be decided just on luck.
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Also, all MMO's have obsolete content. Eventually you just outlevel / outgear the old content. It's hard to imagine how a general MMO designer would setup a 'hardcore ONRY MMO'. Who'd actually spend two months gearing up before trying the first / easiest boss? Who'd spend time killing easy-prey mobs for pathetic XP rather than challenging themselves on the newest and hardest content for maximum returns? Applying standard MMO logic to SAO is a toughie. For all we know there were gated boss fights (IE - can't unlock the 25th floor boss until one month in, can't unlock the 50th until two months in)... except it took them so long to defeat the first boss no one knew it. Quote:
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You'll get guild mates who are female who will speak up about it, or that rare female voice in vent... but their are a LOT of guys who play MMO's who are so desperate to spend time with a member of the fairer sex that they ruin it for everyone else. I'd totally believe those numbers. Now they're not playing Eve Online with me, but in my FFXI guild we've got a pretty fair male/female mix. In Kirito's duel vs. Asuna's stalker it was a first hit match, that ended when HP dropped below 50%. |
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