(L) Dragon Ball Super

[Peanutbutter]

Originally Posted by Stark700

However, this arc's storytelling is getting more interesting with the theories Whis came up with. Guess we'll have to see how much of it will be true regarding Zamasu next time.

His theories lead me to a question: Why stop at two wishes? Since you have the time ring and all.

Using the difference between current Trunks and Future Trunks' age, Zamasu could have already made 10 wishes already.

[ImperialKnight]

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Because he doesn't WANT to destroy the planet, just the mortals on it.

Yet it took a small group of Saiyans (Say Vegeta and Nappa or Bardock and his 3 teammates) to conquer a planet themselves and wipe out the inhabitants within a few days....

Even Zarbon said he could do it within a day himself.

Also what Zamasu is doing in Trunk's timeline seems to be a dry-run for what he plans to do in his own universe.

Still doesn't make sense.

However say Zamasu did make a wish in the future for Goku Black, that would mean Goku Black cannot go in the past with Zamasu....in any case I'm just mubbling cause time travel is well complicated.

And people are over-estimating what the Gods in the Dragonball universe know, which is very limited in many ways. There doesn't seem to be anyone with "true" omniscience here, even Zen'O.

Well I'm pretty sure having a guy committing genocide, killing the Kai's and screwing up the natural order of things is reason enough for Zeno to come in.

I mean afterall a tournament being held between two universes was enough to warrant his attention cause the two gods of destruction had been lagging in their duties.....is it not the duty of the ultimate god to make sure his underlings are doing their job?

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by ImperialKnight

Even Zarbon said he could do it within a day himself.

Makes sense to me actually. While Zamasu wants to kill all mortals, he's not in a particular rush (remember, even before he was immortal, Kaioshin live millions of years, or have you forgotten how Old Kai is 75 million years old?), and Black is basically taking his time because he LIKES inflicting pain and terror.

Originally Posted by ImperialKnight

is it not the duty of the ultimate god to make sure his underlings are doing their job?

No, it's not. Indeed, in many other fictional universes -- see DC, Marvel, and even AO from Forgotten Realms -- the Highgod doesn't interact AT ALL with the universes they made. They just watch.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by ImperialKnight

However say Zamasu did make a wish in the future for Goku Black, that would mean Goku Black cannot go in the past with Zamasu....in any case I'm just mubbling cause time travel is well complicated.

He probably uses a wish to make him part Kaioshin, hence why his ki is so similar to Zamasu's.

[ImperialKnight]

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Makes sense to me actually. While Zamasu wants to kill all mortals, he's not in a particular rush (remember, even before he was immortal, Kaioshin live millions of years, or have you forgotten how Old Kai is 75 million years old?), and Black is basically taking his time because he LIKES inflicting pain and terror.

As typical of villains talking about justice...

No, it's not. Indeed, in many other fictional universes -- see DC, Marvel, and even AO from Forgotten Realms -- the Highgod doesn't interact AT ALL with the universes they made. They just watch.

Yet the Kai's intervened when Buu was rampaging across the universe in a bid to stop him.

And Zeno intervened and reprimanded Beerus and Champa about not doing their jobs.

So in Dragon Ball's universe the Gods do interact to a certain degree.

He probably uses a wish to make him part Kaioshin, hence why his ki is so similar to Zamasu's.

That's what I'm wondering...there's still one piece of the puzzle left that Beerus bought up which is their similarities in Ki. Perhaps it's like the movie "The Last Dragon" where the two characters share the same heart so if one dies the other will too?

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by ImperialKnight

So in Dragon Ball's universe the Gods do interact to a certain degree.

And yet we're also forgetting that Universe 7 (where the series we've been following is set) is considered an outlier, as far as deific interaction with mortals go. The baseline for most universes seem to be what U6 has -- where there MAY be a vague knowledge among the more advanced mortal races that there are actual gods out there, but no one's ever really met them in person, barring stuff like Vados going around recruiting people for Champa's team.

As for Buu and the Kais, also remember that Bibidi forced their hand by more or less sicking Buu on their homeworld. THAT would force anyone to bend an otherwise straightforward non-intervention policy.

[Sixth]

Just imagined if Teamfourstar do this episode.

"Make me BLACK".

Shenlong: OH really? Wow...this is...first time I heard this kind of wish... *turned Zamasu into black*

"Grant me immortality"

Shenlong: You are the 2nd person who wished this...I can't wait to see how are you going to fck this up..Hahahahahaha"

Zamasu: What do you mean??

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by Sixth

Just imagined if Teamfourstar do this episode.

Speaking of which, I do love MasakoX's running commentary of Super so far. The one for episode 58 just came out, too.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/Df6AFGtz4Mc

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[Sixth]

https://twitter.com/teamfourstar/sta...51508364455936

DBZA Vegeta vs SSR Black version.

It was hilarious. Vegeta is being Vegeta.

[Kyero Fox]

[Chosen_Hero]

Is it just me or does DB Super feel like it's doing whatever it can to set up for DBZ Abridged?

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Chosen_Hero

Is it just me or does DB Super feel like it's doing whatever it can to set up for DBZ Abridged?

I have the same thought about it too.

I am still find "Make me Black" sentence hilarious. It reminds me of DBZA Popo and his pecking order.

[Vegard Aune]

Originally Posted by Sixth

I have the same thought about it too.

I am still find "Make me Black" sentence hilarious. It reminds me of DBZA Popo and his pecking order.

Bit of an unfortunate choice of words there... Makes it sound like Zamasu asked to become Black, which as we just learned like two weeks ago, was not what happened. I mean obviously it's meant in a "Make Black for me" kind of way... but that could have been phrased better.

Oh well. If that's the biggest problem we've got to deal with from speedsubs now, obviously we're in a much better place than we've been before with this show.

[justavisitor]

Originally Posted by Vegard Aune

Bit of an unfortunate choice of words there... Makes it sound like Zamasu asked to become Black, which as we just learned like two weeks ago, was not what happened. I mean obviously it's meant in a "Make Black for me" kind of way... but that could have been phrased better.

Oh well. If that's the biggest problem we've got to deal with from speedsubs now, obviously we're in a much better place than we've been before with this show.

Actually, "makes me black", then "create a clone of zamasu" can explain perfectly why black has the ki of Zamasu. Whis got it backward

just my two cents

[DragoMuseveni]

I wonder with this whole TFS jokes if Zamasu wished for a clone of Lord Popo looking just like Goku Just Kiddin

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by DragoMuseveni

I wonder with this whole TFS jokes if Zamasu wished for a clone of Lord Popo looking just like Goku Just Kiddin

Shenlong: name your wish.
Zamasu: make me black!
Shenlong: what? You want to be my master popo? Sorry can't do that.
Zamasu: but...you are supposed to grant my wish.
Shenlong: sorry...how about some compensation?
Zamasu: compensation?
Shenlong: i give you a goku clone.
Zamasu: better than nothing.

[alex_drian]

Guys, you are killing me

[Mad Pierrot]

This show changes people. I used to be White.... Solomon Graves III's no. 1 fan

[Nvis]

This arc has dragged on long enough.

Must a power-locking arc to prepare for All Universe tournament.

[Idealist 99]

I just want Goku to defeat his Evil Clone without any fusion or assist.