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Old 2017-05-05, 22:21   Link #20101
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If you haven't clear E2 on hard yet: forget AS in boss node. Fill your CVs slots with bombers, save the single-digit one. Send 2 CLTs in, with the luck-modded one at the top.

This is my fleet in the final configuration. With the help of LBA & good old fashioned boss support.

Kitakami K2 (132) - 61cm Quint (6*), 53cm Hull, midget sub | Turbine
Yuudachi K2 (99) - 10cm+ (max), 10cm+ (max), Searchlight (max)
Kiso K2 (120) - 20.3cm #3 (max), OTO (max), midget sub | Turbine
Yukikaze Kai (95) - 61cm Quint (6*), 61cm Quint (6*), 61cm Quint (6*) | Turbine
Unryuu K2 (98) - Ryuusei 601 (>>), Ryuusei 601 (>>), Murata's Tenzan (>>), Caroline Saiun (>>)
Souryuu K2 (80) - Ryuusei 601 (>>), Murata's Tenzan (>>), Tomonaga's Tenzan (>>), Iwamoto's Zero 53 (>>)
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Old 2017-05-05, 22:24   Link #20102
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Interesting strategy, but since I haven't looked up E3 and E4 yet, you sure that you don't need those top-shelf CLT and DDs for those maps?
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Old 2017-05-05, 23:14   Link #20103
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So apparently Taiyou Kai Ni can...
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1. Perform OASW.
2. Perform night battles with guns.
3. Launch airstrikes in night battle!
4. SINK SUBMARINES IN NIGHT BATTLE

Taiyou, the littlest ship that could ;-;
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Old 2017-05-05, 23:18   Link #20104
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Interesting strategy, but since I haven't looked up E3 and E4 yet, you sure that you don't need those top-shelf CLT and DDs for those maps?
I'm currently clearing E-3H's HP phase. While I'm using duplicate CLTs, they're not a necessity. The LBAS strikes, boss support and your heavy BBs will wreck hard. Since there's only 2 surface nodes beforehand, your fleet suffers no ammo penalties. Plus, the debuffing is very easy to achieve. Now, I'm going for last kill.

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Old 2017-05-05, 23:25   Link #20105
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So apparently Taiyou Kai Ni can...
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1. Perform OASW.
2. Perform night battles with guns.
3. Launch airstrikes in night battle!
4. SINK SUBMARINES IN NIGHT BATTLE

Taiyou, the littlest ship that could ;-;
So she is a Fubuki-class Carrier. She even has "main character" traits, as she can do it all.
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Old 2017-05-05, 23:41   Link #20106
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Interesting strategy, but since I haven't looked up E3 and E4 yet, you sure that you don't need those top-shelf CLT and DDs for those maps?
For E3, afaik you can use any ship you want for red gauge barring ship lock and STF requirement, and enemies there aren't partucularly strong either.

E4 features installation boss, so no CLT, but you may need the specialist DDs. OTOH, there's a reportedly quite effective fleet setup that involves a SS with damecon, CAVs and 3-4 CV/Bs in the fleet.

Save a CLT for E3 and Kasumi/Ooshio/etc for E4. That should be enough.
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Old 2017-05-05, 23:48   Link #20107
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For E3, afaik you can use any ship you want for red gauge barring ship lock and STF requirement, and enemies there aren't partucularly strong either.

E4 features installation boss, so no CLT, but you may need the specialist DDs. OTOH, there's a reportedly quite effective fleet setup that involves a SS with damecon, CAVs and 3-4 CV/Bs in the fleet.

Save a CLT for E3 and Kasumi/Ooshio/etc for E4. That should be enough.
Okay, thanks. No problem then since I've got level 99 dupes of KitaOi. Kasumi already locked away, but still got Ōshio, Kawakaze and such. Will give it a try.

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So apparently Taiyou Kai Ni can...
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1. Perform OASW.
2. Perform night battles with guns.
3. Launch airstrikes in night battle!
4. SINK SUBMARINES IN NIGHT BATTLE

Taiyou, the littlest ship that could ;-;
Waiting for the comments concerning how overpowered her skillset is.
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Old 2017-05-06, 00:05   Link #20108
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So she is a Fubuki-class Carrier. She even has "main character" traits, as she can do it all.
She look more like Shirayuki tho.
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Old 2017-05-06, 00:42   Link #20109
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Pretty rare occurence. With 117 HP left Yukikaze, last in the line, dealt exactly 117 damage. Probably the first time ever that I've seen a boss reduced to pinpoint 0 HP.
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Old 2017-05-06, 00:53   Link #20110
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Okay, thanks. No problem then since I've got level 99 dupes of KitaOi. Kasumi already locked away, but still got Ōshio, Kawakaze and such. Will give it a try.


Waiting for the comments concerning how overpowered her skillset is.
At least she needs a blueprint and flight deck for that, so its kinda fine... I guess? - the guns are a bit much though imho
Gangut on the other hand has guns equal to Bisko's (who needs 2 blueprints to get em btw) and even gets one upon a rather early Kai
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Old 2017-05-06, 01:00   Link #20111
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E-3H cleared! Shibafu Hime is definitely easier to kill than CA Hime.
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Old 2017-05-06, 01:00   Link #20112
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Gangut on the other hand has guns equal to bisko's (who needs 2 blueprints btw) and even gets one upon a rather early Kai
I've seen the stats of her guns by now and still don't get your outrage. It's not particularly special and all the features you complain about have seen precedences before.
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Old 2017-05-06, 01:11   Link #20113
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I've seen the stats of her guns by now and still don't get your outrage. It's not particularly special and all the features you complain about have seen precedences before.
The issue is that she has the exact same guns as bisko, + 1 armor i.e. she gets better guns than a ship some people (not me though, I got her second try or so) spend for 2 Events worth of ressources and more on it, while historically way weaker than that.
15 FP due to the cannons on top of the turret would have been too much already imho - 17 just tops it hard.

Moreover why use 35.6 guns now at all? once gungut's guns are in Akashi's arsenal you can get 4 of them instead of two.
i.E you can just put on Biskos and her guns on the Kongous and sortie them out (or any other ship who has 36.5 as a fit cannon) -
Difference is though, the 38s are actually stronger than the 35.6cms - Moreover why use Bisko's guns on bisko now, - she gets an armor point if you put on the 30.5s
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Old 2017-05-06, 01:18   Link #20114
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The issue is that she has the exact same guns as bisko, + 1 armor i.e. she gets better guns than a ship some people (not me though, I got her second try or so) spend for 2 Events worth of ressources and more on it, while historically way weaker than that.
15 FP due to the cannons on top of the turret would have been too much already imho - 17 just tops it hard.

Moreover why use 35.6 guns now at all? once gungut's guns are in Akashi's arsenal you can get 4 of them instead of two.
i.E you can just put on Biskos and her guns on the Kongous and sortie them out (or any other ship who has 36.5 as a fit cannon) -
Difference is though, the 38s are actually stronger than the 35.6cms - Moreover why use Bisko's guns on bisko now, - she gets an armor point if you put on the 30.5s
As I said, it's a non-issue since the things you've raised have seen their precedences before. The Prototype 35.6cm is better than both the 38cm Kai and the 30.5cm. And don't forget that the Italian 381mm Kai have a firepower of 21 which is a whopping +4 over the 38cm Kai. Warspite's 38.1cm Kai also boasts 19 firepower.

And this should also answer your question why to use the 35.6cm gun. The Prototype 35.6cm gun is still the choice to go for the FBBs and if you want you can get more of them by upgrading the regular 35.6cm ones through Akashi.
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Old 2017-05-06, 01:44   Link #20115
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Due to the lack of strong ships I'm now using
Ashigara
Kiso
Fubuki (10 cm + AFD + radar + barrel)
Inazuma (3x barrel bait)
Zuihou 2x fighter 1x hybrid 1x yellow
Soryuu 2x fighter 1x bomber 1x yellow

Bombardment
Hiei, jank DD, Kako, Haruna, Yuubari, XX
4 BB 2x DD boss

Torpedo base land strike force

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E-1 Ushio Mutsuki Kisaragi Fusou Kai Yuubari Naka Kai Ni
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Old 2017-05-06, 12:15   Link #20116
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E3 is turning into the Agano-class collection. Must have gotten close to 30 S-ranks by now, no sign of either of the two new drop girls. Instead I got 4 Noshiros, 1 Agano, 1 Mutsu and 1 Akagi among others.

I wonder what kind of offering Rocksmash made to the devil. What poor animal was sacrificed for getting both of them in only 9 runs.
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Old 2017-05-06, 14:22   Link #20117
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A similar one to the ones getting through node Q :/
Each and every try one of my CAs gets sent home. (Yes I mean you, Takao)

Edit:
Well K I'm not using exacty strong DDs - I can't really believe that you need no DDs at all in E4.
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Old 2017-05-06, 19:09   Link #20118
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I wonder what kind of offering Rocksmash made to the devil. What poor animal was sacrificed for getting both of them in only 9 runs.
I have no idea what I did but there was no animals involved ( I think). But whatever I did, I need to do it again. I'm currently on sortie #45 for Erotofu.
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Old 2017-05-06, 20:20   Link #20119
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The actually for once not deep evil voice actng on the light carrier hime makes hearing her getting shot painful :/
The other painful thing is how little a kill actually counts towards the bar

Edit:
I just tried the 3 CV/B + 2CA/V + 1 SSV Setup and its working out surprisingly well.
The AA Requirements on medium are so low I can Equip 6 Torpedo Bombers.

Another NiceGimmik some of you may wonder about is the Range towards the Boss: Its exactly 1.
I.e. You can use Jet planes without crippling your cranes out of their attack agaisnt the boss (they also shoot down enemies I think)

1st try was already S Rank.

Again Medium on hard, you might get more probelems getting the sub through Node C.
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Old 2017-05-06, 22:16   Link #20120
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Actually not going to bother with the drop girls unless they SOMEHOW drop during chipping/clearing -- I simply don't have extra dorm space right now to spare.

It's the reward girls Taiyou and Gangut, or bust.
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