(L) Death Note Manga Discussion

[Kyero Fox]

anyone else have the feeling the newbie Shinigami Ryuk is talking to at the end is Light?

[Bezoar10]

Thats acutally possible because they say early on in the series that when the owner of the death note dies he can niether go to heven nor hell so it could be him, but then what about Light's father, mello, mello's gang, and the other Kiras?

anyone else have the feeling the newbie Shinigami Ryuk is talking to at the end is Light?

[Bezoar10]

Has anyone read Death Note 13 ?

Spoiler for Death Note 13:

I didn't like that they introduced the death note to the entire world. And I hated how even though the kid got rid of the death note, Ryuk was still with him. Does that mean he really didn't get rid of it????

[Aquillion]

Originally Posted by Bezoar10

Thats acutally possible because they say early on in the series that when the owner of the death note dies he can niether go to heven nor hell so it could be him, but then what about Light's father, mello, mello's gang, and the other Kiras?

Um, did you actually read the end?

Spoiler:

No humans go to heaven or hell, because in Death Note they don't exist. Ryuk said that all humans are exactly the same in death... in that they are completely destroyed. There's no afterlife or anything like that in the Death Note universe. Light is simply gone, just like everyone else who dies.

[Ja-Y-Ce]

On a very unrelated note to this thread - simply because, i do not know where to place it.

Tsugumi Ohba & Takeshi Obata will be together again with a new series called "Baku-Man" and it's starting in the Bon issue of issue 37-38.

Hmmm, wonder how's the plot like and stuff... one can only wait, i suppose.


Pls help me to move this post to the relevant one if this is the wrong thread to be posted to.

[Bezoar10]

Originally Posted by Aquillion

Um, did you actually read the end?

Spoiler:

No humans go to heaven or hell, because in Death Note they don't exist. Ryuk said that all humans are exactly the same in death... in that they are completely destroyed. There's no afterlife or anything like that in the Death Note universe. Light is simply gone, just like everyone else who dies.

I don't remember that, what book was that said in again?

[CJL13]

Originally Posted by Bezoar10

I don't remember that, what book was that said in again?

One of the first chapters, it's also mentioned right before

Spoiler:

Light dies.

[mantidor]

I'm a bit late to the party (and I haven't been to the forums in ages), but I just finished reading the manga!

Awesome from beginning to end, even the "loathed" second part, however I do have two complains. First, how they seemed to made up the rules to give Light the advantage towards the death of L, and second, which is the one that bothers me the most, is that Light basically won because the women of the series (Misa, Takada and of course Rem) are completely stupid and easily manipulated. This is from Japan so misogyny shouldn't surprise me, still, it felt so cheap. Thats probably why I ended up liking Near and Mello so much despite popular opinion, they were cheap as well, but they brought some balance.

[Balder8472]

Light was no hero, okay his motives at the beginning were pure and nobel but he became corrupted by the power of the given to him by the deathnote.

When he started killing those FBI agents and other law enforcement officers who were after him that's the exact moment he lost his way and was seduced by his power

the way the anime and the manga ended was perfect I hope the author/artist resist the urge to cash in on the manga/anime's popularity and make a continuation or side story of deathnote.

[Kantai]

Originally Posted by Kotonoha

Two things you should know:
1) Tsugumi Ooba is most likely a woman.
2) Rumors are abounding within the Japanese manga community that "Tsugumi Ooba" is just a penname of Yuuko Asami, a Shounen Jump artist responsible for such titles like "Wild Half," "Romancers" and "Jump Run." "Death Note" is supposed to be her first "gensaku"-work, which was why she changed her name to be credited as an author.

Okay but in first, this is not "Tsugumi Ooba" who wrote Death Note, but "Tsugumi Öba" and I remark a lot of mistakes in her name !
In second time, ... what 0.0 ! why "Tsugumi Öba" is would a woman ...
No ! Is wrong !
"Tsugumi" is a man who makes a super manga and he does not want to be known !
There is a lot of rumors but this not right !
Okay ! now I finish ^^ bye
And ... Sorry, I will me calm down !

[ArrowSmith]

Personally I would have liked Light to win and become emperor of the world. Then the next several volumes would deal with Light's reordering of existing institutions(governments and religion). But that would have gone away from the "battle of wits" style of DN.

[ArtOfMe]

I hated Light throughout the whole series, so it was hard to really enjoy seeing his methods because I wanted him to lose. I think it would have been better if L and the original team had been kept through the whole thing, but I guess the author(s) couldn't come up with more to do with L and Light's rivalry.

I felt vindicated by the end though.

Spoiler for End of series:

I knew that Ryuk would be the one to kill Light, who was a pathetic person by the end. It felt almost good to see him beg for his life.

It was a proper finish, for me. But I still didn't care about anything after Vol. 7.

I was happy that Matsuda was alive, though. I had really liked him through the whole thing.

[L'sLover]

Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

anyone else have the feeling the newbie Shinigami Ryuk is talking to at the end is Light?

Yea im so glad someone finally agrees with me i said that when i saw it but all my friends were like NOO that would never happen ...... and i was like well remeber humans who use the Death note neither go to Heaven nor Hell so i was like THEY MUST BECOME SHINIGAMIS!!!!!!!! they were like no i dont think so...
*sigh*

[Light-Yagami-Kira]

Originally Posted by L'sLover

Yea im so glad someone finally agrees with me i said that when i saw it but all my friends were like NOO that would never happen ...... and i was like well remeber humans who use the Death note neither go to Heaven nor Hell so i was like THEY MUST BECOME SHINIGAMIS!!!!!!!! they were like no i dont think so...
*sigh*

I personally don't believe the place of Nothingness is literially a state of non-exsistance, as most would think. Ryuk told Light that he would find out all about the afterlife after he died. If Light became Nothingness, it would be impossible for him to find out about anything. For those of you who don't believe me, and think I'm just trying to be controversial, read the first Manga, page 25.

[Tenken's Smile]

Ryuk told Light that he would find out all about the afterlife after he died. If Light became Nothingness, it would be impossible for him to find out about anything. For those of you who don't believe me, and think I'm just trying to be controversial, read the first Manga, page 25.

OK, you misunderstood Ryuk's line: he didn't say anything about the "afterlife" or "after."
All he said was: "That's something you'll find out WHEN you die."
Besides adding a creepy mood to an already dark story, that line foreshadows "Mu" ("Nothingness") later on, and implies that NOTHINGNESS is much more terrifying than "Heaven" or "Hell", so actually that's something no human would look forward to "find out" because more or less we all are afraid of death, or rather, afraid of the UNKNOWN (Nothingness).

If Heaven and Hell are completely disqualified, then where else would Light go?

Nowhere. Heaven/hell are just religious imaginations.

Originally Posted by Aquillion

Um, did you actually read the end? No humans go to heaven or hell, because in Death Note they don't exist. Ryuk said that all humans are exactly the same in death... in that they are completely destroyed. There's no afterlife or anything like that in the Death Note universe. Light is simply gone, just like everyone else who dies.

Correct.
The series (as well as author's interviews) made it very clear that "After death, the place you'll go to is 'Nothingness' ". It's a way of saying that Everything (consciousness, memories, perceptions...) ends when one dies. The two BLACK pages after Light died further reinforced this idea.

[Light-Yagami-Kira]

Originally Posted by Tenken's Smile

OK, you misunderstood Ryuk's line: he didn't say anything about the "afterlife" or "after."

You clearly have a different definition of "afterlife" than I do. And yes Ryuk was talking about "after" Light dies when he said the word "when". It actually means the same thing.

[KimmyChan]

I loved reading the Death Note manga series from volumes 1-12

It kept me absolutely gripped from start to finish

[Tenken's Smile]

Originally Posted by Bezoar10

Has anyone read Death Note 13 ?

Spoiler for Death Note 13:

I didn't like that they introduced the death note to the entire world. And I hated how even though the kid got rid of the death note, Ryuk was still with him. Does that mean he really didn't get rid of it????

Ah, I bet you were confused. The extra chapter in Vol. 13 actually is a pilot chapter (a "prequel") to this series. That's when the author first came up with the idea of a Death Note, so there were things you won't see in the actual serialization, such as a Death Note eraser.

[Albafica]

Ok just read the volume 13 out in France, it's really good! There are some interview with Ohba and Obata, we learn a lot of things, it's very interesting.
Well Ohba is a bit strange: he never go out, he doesn't want to see the guy who work with him, he is afraid of crowd, he does nothing but dream .

Oh and there is a L Lawliet brillant card .

[Bon~]

I love Death Note
it's so interesting and it was really unique
but sometimes when Raito plans something, it's always so confusing @_@
haha, but netherless the manga is amazing~