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Tyrone Biggums · 2009-07-14, 12:45

I wouldn't call this Harem.

More Layfon is just being his badass self and the girls just flock to his mad skillz.

blewin · 2009-07-20, 20:13

I thought Harem is one guy character surrounded by main and side characters who are all (majority anyway) females. I'd classify CSR as Harem but not in terms of fanservice Harem (which is GOOD! I can't stand Harum just for the sake of fanservice).

Anyway, Chapter 3 is up.

Spoiler for Chapter 3:

Johnny · 2009-07-21, 00:53

Thanks for the new chapter...Like the part with the his past training as well...

tsunade666 · 2009-07-22, 02:58

Thanks for the translations. And Nina really did consider layfon and respect him. Its just in the anime, to me nina is only avoiding layfon and trying to get stronger herself, more like jealousy. The translation of the novel really helps.

holyman282 · 2009-07-22, 04:29

man good job blewin. Also this chapter gives more insight on how heaven's bladers work. It's a very dog eat dog world for them even when they get into the heaven's blade..

Tyrone Biggums · 2009-07-22, 11:18

This is really how the anime should of been done.

Already in 2 Volumes of the LN we missed so much...God damn money grubbers.

Maybe we'll get an OVA that will actually follow the correct story...Like Hellsing.

tsunade666 · 2009-07-22, 14:34

I doubt it. Them following the novel. They starting trashing it already. They will not follow it that easily.

blewin · 2009-07-24, 01:34

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

Thanks for the translations. And Nina really did consider layfon and respect him. Its just in the anime, to me nina is only avoiding layfon and trying to get stronger herself, more like jealousy. The translation of the novel really helps.

Jealousy, exactly! I'm glad the LN Nina shows a stronger personality than mere jealousy. The novels really make you sympathise with her, what with her not being a genius, feeling frustrated and trying sooo hard to Layfon's standard (see more in next chapter).

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Biggums

This is really how the anime should of been done.

The problem with novel adaptation is always "internal thoughts". Most of the novels aren't written with a heavy dialogue focus. A lot of feelings are shown through the character's inner thoughts. um.... which remains me of Crest of the star, a novel adaption that sticks close to the novel style - and drags down the anime pace. It's not bad, but watching that anime can get tedious, bogged down by too much inner rumbling. I wonder whether Layfon's appearance would remain as badass in the anime would be if the anime shows his internal thoughts every single second.

willyvereb · 2009-07-24, 03:58

No...he would've become another Shinji Ikari. So someone with strong internal problem+ badass talent. But the thing really problematic in the anime's they added a way too many things without consideration to keep the original characters' image. For example Felli became a gag character, Layfon has dual personality and Nina's somewhat random with her actions. They added and excluded serious things. To an extend where for example Nina's somewhat admirable and likable character changed into an impatient emotional rollercoaster.
Anyways I forgot to comment the last chapters: They're quite good.

Spoiler for vol 2 ch 4:

tsunade666 · 2009-07-25, 05:04

I'm enjoying more as the translation keeps coming up. As for felli being stero type is not bad for me. But layfon having a dual personality like some kind of super hero or villain is kinda annoying. The anime's money hunger without explanation and layfon sudden change of mood all of a sudden like its natural from killing to fighting and getting series and not child like. His kinda childish in the novel.

blewin · 2009-07-28, 20:12

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Originally Posted by willyvereb

No...he would've become another Shinji Ikari. So someone with strong internal problem+ badass talent. But the thing really problematic in the anime's they added a way too many things without consideration to keep the original characters' image. For example Felli became a gag character, Layfon has dual personality and Nina's somewhat random with her actions. They added and excluded serious things. To an extend where for example Nina's somewhat admirable and likable character changed into an impatient emotional rollercoaster.
Anyways I forgot to comment the last chapters: They're quite good.

Spoiler for vol 2 ch 4:

They ought to give Nina some internal monologue in the anime. That'd have worked in Nina's favour.

Chapter 4 is up.

Spoiler for Vol 2 Ch 4:

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

His kinda childish in the novel.

yeah, I agree with ya. Not childish in terms of fighting filth monsters and the state of the world, but pretty naive and simple when it comes to himself and interacting with people.

Johnny · 2009-07-29, 01:13

Thanks for the new chapter blewin...

I like the extra insight we get from the trio, and their dealings with Layfon. Understandable in the anime as they were side characters, but sometimes side characters are more enjoyable then the main characters...

willyvereb · 2009-07-29, 04:18

For example: Jeremiah "cybernetic loyal orange" Gottwald
As a memorable side character.

Back to topic. It was a rather enjoyable chapter but I somehow missed the Layfon lecture part. I guess it's in the next one.

Spoiler for vol2 ch4 revelations:

holyman282 · 2009-07-29, 08:12

MAN the novel is so good.... Layfon seems so much more aware of the circumstances and his explanation of a heaven's blader is very defined.

Also just to point out blewin you made a mistake in the spelling, as Nina doesn't say restorable but it's restoration.

giorno · 2009-07-29, 15:41

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Originally Posted by willyvereb

For example: Jeremiah "cybernetic loyal orange" Gottwald
As a memorable side character.

you know, the majority of fans watched R2 only for that side character...he was actually the true main character

and what's cybernetic loyal orange, call him with his proper name, "orenji"

Johnny · 2009-08-08, 17:15

Thanks for the new chapter blewin. The Felli naming session was too funny, outshined the anime by a longshot...

satomianzaki · 2009-08-08, 21:26

thanks blewin...

holyman282 · 2009-08-08, 21:29

Wow amazing simply amazing... chapter 5 was so emotional the internal dialogues performed by the characters are so well done and gives so much insight....

My favourite part would have to be Nina thinking to herself as she faced the filth monster wondering if Layfon always had to face this alone... REally really touching...

blewin · 2009-08-09, 05:10

yeah, love the Felli naming session too. Trust Layfon to come up with something so original that hits the nail right on the spot.

agree. Nina definitely earns more points in the novels. She now thinks from Layfon's perspective, as opposed to when she first heard of his reason behind the underground matches and she hated him for it.

I sympathise with Nina for being so normal and average (you could say everyone in team 17 is a genius.. Layfon obviously, Felli with her psychokinesis, Harley's awesome techno skill, Sharnid's sniping skill). Nina seems to represent the more average type that tries hard to reach the high standard but not getting there and is fully aware that she'd need a super-long period of time to reach it (or might not even reach it). I'm liking Nina more and more.

willyvereb · 2009-08-09, 05:49

That's why TV shows hardly enough to show the emotions the books show. And because of the production costs the action scenes are better too in the novels. Man...just imagining ep 7 with the exact way Layfon fought in the light novels...

Spoiler for vol2 ch5:

And in case if justinstrife looks on the topic: Nina isn't inconsiderate and that busy in the novels(at least for now). You may end up liking her.
Well my favourite list in the novels:
-Nina(natural, as she's the current heroine in the last two volumes)
-Layfon(maybe he's weak willed, but his detailed emotions and thoughts makes up for that)
-Felli(kind, but abusive and mysterious girl...her physical abuses are "replaced with" mental abuses)
-Sharnid(Sometimes I wish we could see his inner thoughts too...even if it's mainly focuses on different girls from school...or maybe because of that:P)

Anyways, I think this topic is the only one that keeps the regios forums alive. I think it'll stay like that, sorrily.

P.S.:How long is the epilogue? The previous one wasn't too long, but contained some pretty gold moments. So my hopes are high for the current one!

2009-07-14, 12:45	Link #101
Tyrone Biggums Crack Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: T dot Ohhhhhh Age: 37	I wouldn't call this Harem. More Layfon is just being his badass self and the girls just flock to his mad skillz. __________________ "Hey Joe Rogan, there is something you don't know about me...i smoke rocks!!!"

2009-07-20, 20:13	Link #102
blewin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007	I thought Harem is one guy character surrounded by main and side characters who are all (majority anyway) females. I'd classify CSR as Harem but not in terms of fanservice Harem (which is GOOD! I can't stand Harum just for the sake of fanservice). Anyway, Chapter 3 is up. Spoiler for Chapter 3: Nice to see some background to Layfon's training, especially the bit on his relationship with Lintence! It's definitely a good insight into how HB fight and how they relate to each other. __________________ Chrome Shelled Regios

2009-07-22, 04:29	Link #105
holyman282 Snape: "I hate Potter!" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia	man good job blewin. Also this chapter gives more insight on how heaven's bladers work. It's a very dog eat dog world for them even when they get into the heaven's blade.. __________________ My Anime Music Videos Sola Anime Music Video, Seto No Hanayome Anime Music Video

2009-07-22, 11:18	Link #106
Tyrone Biggums Crack Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: T dot Ohhhhhh Age: 37	This is really how the anime should of been done. Already in 2 Volumes of the LN we missed so much...God damn money grubbers. Maybe we'll get an OVA that will actually follow the correct story...Like Hellsing. __________________ "Hey Joe Rogan, there is something you don't know about me...i smoke rocks!!!"

2009-07-24, 03:58	Link #109
willyvereb Mad Scientist #0000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hungry Age: 35	No...he would've become another Shinji Ikari. So someone with strong internal problem+ badass talent. But the thing really problematic in the anime's they added a way too many things without consideration to keep the original characters' image. For example Felli became a gag character, Layfon has dual personality and Nina's somewhat random with her actions. They added and excluded serious things. To an extend where for example Nina's somewhat admirable and likable character changed into an impatient emotional rollercoaster. Anyways I forgot to comment the last chapters: They're quite good. Spoiler for vol 2 ch 4: The letter scene is much better. Felli's reason to not give it to him is more understandable.Nina acts more and more motherly with Layfon. Perhaps the training flashback was an interesting one...same with the parells with Nina's current behaviour and Layfon's past.

2009-07-21, 00:53	Link #103
Johnny Working the bags... Join Date: Mar 2009	Thanks for the new chapter...Like the part with the his past training as well...

2009-07-22, 02:58	Link #104
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	Thanks for the translations. And Nina really did consider layfon and respect him. Its just in the anime, to me nina is only avoiding layfon and trying to get stronger herself, more like jealousy. The translation of the novel really helps.

2009-07-22, 14:34	Link #107
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	I doubt it. Them following the novel. They starting trashing it already. They will not follow it that easily.

2009-07-25, 05:04	Link #110
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	I'm enjoying more as the translation keeps coming up. As for felli being stero type is not bad for me. But layfon having a dual personality like some kind of super hero or villain is kinda annoying. The anime's money hunger without explanation and layfon sudden change of mood all of a sudden like its natural from killing to fighting and getting series and not child like. His kinda childish in the novel.

2009-07-29, 01:13	Link #112
Johnny Working the bags... Join Date: Mar 2009	Thanks for the new chapter blewin... I like the extra insight we get from the trio, and their dealings with Layfon. Understandable in the anime as they were side characters, but sometimes side characters are more enjoyable then the main characters...

2009-07-29, 04:18	Link #113
willyvereb Mad Scientist #0000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hungry Age: 35	For example: Jeremiah "cybernetic loyal orange" Gottwald As a memorable side character. Back to topic. It was a rather enjoyable chapter but I somehow missed the Layfon lecture part. I guess it's in the next one. Spoiler for vol2 ch4 revelations: Layfon's friendship with the 3 girls are described much better. Perhaps Nina was the centric figure of the chapter. They told us her reasons for her self-destructive training again and it's funny(but understandable) they have more worries about Felli than Nina as a possible contender for Layton despite they have fewer interactions in the story. And last: It's kind of good thing that Felli's statement about Layfon's pervertedness at the hospital wasn't an anime original one.

2009-07-29, 08:12	Link #114
holyman282 Snape: "I hate Potter!" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia	MAN the novel is so good.... Layfon seems so much more aware of the circumstances and his explanation of a heaven's blader is very defined. Also just to point out blewin you made a mistake in the spelling, as Nina doesn't say restorable but it's restoration. __________________ My Anime Music Videos Sola Anime Music Video, Seto No Hanayome Anime Music Video

2009-08-08, 17:15	Link #116
Johnny Working the bags... Join Date: Mar 2009	Thanks for the new chapter blewin. The Felli naming session was too funny, outshined the anime by a longshot...

2009-08-08, 21:26	Link #117
satomianzaki Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	thanks blewin...

2009-08-08, 21:29	Link #118
holyman282 Snape: "I hate Potter!" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia	Wow amazing simply amazing... chapter 5 was so emotional the internal dialogues performed by the characters are so well done and gives so much insight.... My favourite part would have to be Nina thinking to herself as she faced the filth monster wondering if Layfon always had to face this alone... REally really touching... __________________ My Anime Music Videos Sola Anime Music Video, Seto No Hanayome Anime Music Video

2009-08-09, 05:10	Link #119
blewin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007	yeah, love the Felli naming session too. Trust Layfon to come up with something so original that hits the nail right on the spot. agree. Nina definitely earns more points in the novels. She now thinks from Layfon's perspective, as opposed to when she first heard of his reason behind the underground matches and she hated him for it. I sympathise with Nina for being so normal and average (you could say everyone in team 17 is a genius.. Layfon obviously, Felli with her psychokinesis, Harley's awesome techno skill, Sharnid's sniping skill). Nina seems to represent the more average type that tries hard to reach the high standard but not getting there and is fully aware that she'd need a super-long period of time to reach it (or might not even reach it). I'm liking Nina more and more. __________________ Chrome Shelled Regios

2009-08-09, 05:49	Link #120
willyvereb Mad Scientist #0000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hungry Age: 35	That's why TV shows hardly enough to show the emotions the books show. And because of the production costs the action scenes are better too in the novels. Man...just imagining ep 7 with the exact way Layfon fought in the light novels... Spoiler for vol2 ch5: Man, the Felli conversations were epic. It seems the psychokinetic communications not only transmit words but emotions too. And I start to understand why Nina has so many fans from the LN readers. And I can imagine the difficulties of the FM fighting much better. Nina's thoughts were interesting and I can''t believe we must wait much more chapters until Layfon meets Leerin. She really owns a fine part of his heart.But worriedly to her Layfon starts being attracted to Nina. More properly he's starting to relise it now. And in case if justinstrife looks on the topic: Nina isn't inconsiderate and that busy in the novels(at least for now). You may end up liking her. Well my favourite list in the novels: -Nina(natural, as she's the current heroine in the last two volumes) -Layfon(maybe he's weak willed, but his detailed emotions and thoughts makes up for that) -Felli(kind, but abusive and mysterious girl...her physical abuses are "replaced with" mental abuses) -Sharnid(Sometimes I wish we could see his inner thoughts too...even if it's mainly focuses on different girls from school...or maybe because of that:P) Anyways, I think this topic is the only one that keeps the regios forums alive. I think it'll stay like that, sorrily. P.S.:How long is the epilogue? The previous one wasn't too long, but contained some pretty gold moments. So my hopes are high for the current one!