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Stark700 · 2021-01-31, 05:59

Light novel 'The Genius Prince's Guide to Raising a Nation Out of Debt' (Hey, How About Treason?) is getting an anime adaptation.

Synopsis

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The prince of this small and weak kingdom strives for only one thing: selling out his country and living a quiet life in leisure! Sadly, the greatest obstacle he will ever face is his own genius...! As he achieves ever greater accomplishments, he earns more and more favor with the people of his kingdom...which makes fulfilling his own dreams all the harder!!!

Announced today from the GA Bunko event.

Source

https://twitter.com/GA_bunko/status/1355832728831225857

Stark700 · 2021-03-26, 19:39

PV

Stark700 · 2021-11-19, 09:13

New key visual

Airs January 11

leongsh · 2022-01-11, 10:20

Episode 1:
Justy Tylor (of the show Irresponsible Captain Tylor) has been reincarnated to this kingdom as Prince Wein?

nfsac · 2022-01-11, 10:41

The plot had an ok pace during the episode despiste they choosing to rush and compress some events of the manga/LN beggining. Some manga chapters were really boring due to this. The fighting scenes were a bit poor in execution though. Is this 12/13 episodes? The reduced amount of episodes, aka 1 Core, is what is causing several shows to come out as rushed adaptations.

zztop · 2022-01-11, 11:19

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Originally Posted by nfsac

Is this 12/13 episodes? The reduced amount of episodes, aka 1 Core, is what is causing several shows to come out as rushed adaptations.

I think it will only be 12 episodes.
Main website lists 4 Blurays to be released from Mar 2022 - Jun 2022 (presumable 3 eps per Bluray).
https://tensaiouji-anime.com/bd/tokuten.html

BWTraveller · 2022-01-11, 12:32

I'm reminded of a dumb LA movie I was made to watch in Japanese class years ago, centered on a group of boys who somehow ended up in a synchronized swimming club. They begged a dolphin trainer to teach them, and he just used them like slaves and dumped them wherever he could in hopes they'd give up, only to be shocked that the crap he put them through actually made them good at it.

Definitely not "Realist Hero". More like an antithesis to it. But fun to watch back-to-back, switching from an outsider who's determined to make the kingdom that took him in into a powerhouse that can take on the world to a lazy bum who, despite being raised as the heir, just wants to improve his country's value enough to sell it but instead ends up stumbling into more and more wealth and power.

nfsac · 2022-01-11, 13:27

Could we have this topic moved to Current series?

LKK · 2022-01-11, 13:39

FYI: Funimation has the stream.

Tenzen12 · 2022-01-11, 13:42

There is few issues like not even single archer on main battlefield, but it mostly made good sense and author either understand politics and economics or have enough common sense to fake it.

So basically Realist hero, but good.

nfsac · 2022-01-11, 14:06

Notice how the series starts with the death of the emperor of Earthwold. They wanna introduce some characters asap.

FlareKnight · 2022-01-11, 15:43

This was a bit weird. Not terrible, but just felt off. I sure hope that isn't actually the OP. Just a string of what look like cuts from the show itself. Just a clip show presentation with some music in the background. One of the more awkward feeling OPs I've seen in a while. Even the ED was basically that. Although hey...it had a border around the clips

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Episode was still fine. But can tell how much they are trying to hurry it along. Another anime that just seems like a quick trailer for the source material instead of standing up on its own.

At least the comical element should remain good. The Prince too good at what he does and sets himself up for success despite not wanting that. Going to be ruling that Kingdom with his lovely assistant for a long time.

nfsac · 2022-01-11, 15:55

Sometimes its best to just start at the point they wanna focus than compress 2 volumes in 2 episodes. They will focus on a certain character introduction and make the show from there. I assume next episode we already meet most of the characters. The interview with the ambassador, who has the same seyuu of Rias Gremory, was too fast.
The intro also focused too much in a Blonde Lady. I wonder if she is related to the Emperor that was announced dead on first minute of the series...

HandofFate · 2022-01-11, 21:13

Actually really enjoyed it. I could tell things were compressed, but they did a good job of making it comprehensible. Followed the logic of the Prince, and understood why the battle went the way it did.

Love the MC, one of my favorite archetypes is the lazy MC who thru misunderstandings or luck of trying to get out of work, just creates more work for him. Different from asshole MCs, where the person here is lazy, but he's not a lazy asshole.

Battle scenes were serviceable, not fancy, but it showed clearly what was going on.

Only thing I was unsure of was who the ambassador was, future episodes will probably show her again, but I guess the small kingdom and everyone else is under the umbrella of the Empire, and that was who the ambassador lady was from? Or was it a neighboring empire from their border

frodonk · 2022-01-11, 21:20

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Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Just a string of what look like cuts from the show itself. Just a clip show presentation with some music in the background. One of the more awkward feeling OPs I've seen in a while. Even the ED was basically that. Although hey...it had a border around the clips

.

yeah looks like they just reused footage from the series to make the OP, I know their country has budget issues but I didn't think it could've spilled over to the OP too

VDZ · 2022-01-11, 23:40

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Originally Posted by BWTraveller

I'm reminded of a dumb LA movie I was made to watch in Japanese class years ago, centered on a group of boys who somehow ended up in a synchronized swimming club. They begged a dolphin trainer to teach them, and he just used them like slaves and dumped them wherever he could in hopes they'd give up, only to be shocked that the crap he put them through actually made them good at it.

TVTropes calls this trope 'Springtime for Hitler', after a fictional created-to-fail musical from a movie.

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

There is few issues like not even single archer on main battlefield, but it mostly made good sense and author either understand politics and economics or have enough common sense to fake it.

The battlefield is flat, both armies are heavily armored, neither army seems to have significant cavalry presence (if horseback archery is even a thing in those cultures) and they have roughly equal numbers. What is moving some front-line soldiers to an archery unit going to acomplish? You get an initial shock advantage, and after that you're kinda fucked because you're outnumbered in the direct skirmish. If any part of the formation gets broken through (more likely because you have fewer front-line soldiers now), all archers are going to die. The enemy had a numbers (and experience) advantage so they could have tried it, but they were specifically highlighted as tactically incompetent.

It would also require them to have decent archery equipment (in large quantities), which judging by the information in this episode (kingdom having no resources, cavalry limited to leaders) they probably just can't afford. (Though that does raise the question how they managed to get all of that armor.)

Marina2 · 2022-01-12, 00:05

Out of the new three shows aired in the same day, I like this one the most.

MC is so entertaining to watch. His assistant and sister are cute. I will also give them a thump up for not using Ugly 3D Solider CGI in battle scene.

Tenzen12 · 2022-01-12, 00:37

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Originally Posted by VDZ

TVTropes calls this trope 'Springtime for Hitler', after a fictional created-to-fail musical from a movie.

The battlefield is flat, both armies are heavily armored, neither army seems to have significant cavalry presence (if horseback archery is even a thing in those cultures) and they have roughly equal numbers. What is moving some front-line soldiers to an archery unit going to acomplish? You get an initial shock advantage, and after that you're kinda fucked because you're outnumbered in the direct skirmish. If any part of the formation gets broken through (more likely because you have fewer front-line soldiers now), all archers are going to die. The enemy had a numbers (and experience) advantage so they could have tried it, but they were specifically highlighted as tactically incompetent.

It would also require them to have decent archery equipment (in large quantities), which judging by the information in this episode (kingdom having no resources, cavalry limited to leaders) they probably just can't afford. (Though that does raise the question how they managed to get all of that armor.)

Initial shock adventage is exactly what archers are for. They exchange volleys before meele starts and retreat. Armor isn't really issue, we see that it does not do anything against arrows (either because author underplayed its protective value or because studio made soldiers more armored the they were in novel n in novel). Either way any army would have archers if they weren't there it means they had them but decided to not use them.

serenade_beta · 2022-01-12, 00:54

Spoiler for ep1:

Random14 · 2022-01-12, 05:46

Hm, not too bad intro (budget issues aside), I find Wein entertaining. He's definitely not dumb, his plans all sounded at least somewhat sensible, just that luck and misreading people are tripping him up. Well, part of it is also that he doesn't factor in that everyone else is much more reckless than he is.

Even hearing comments about rushing, didn't expect them to get that far in one episode. I worry a bit about the rest of the season's quality, but I'm already interested in picking up the novels now. I'll probably follow this series, at least the premise is relatively simpler.

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Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	There is few issues like not even single archer on main battlefield, but it mostly made good sense and author either understand politics and economics or have enough common sense to fake it. So basically Realist hero, but good. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2022-01-11, 15:43	Link #12
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	This was a bit weird. Not terrible, but just felt off. I sure hope that isn't actually the OP. Just a string of what look like cuts from the show itself. Just a clip show presentation with some music in the background. One of the more awkward feeling OPs I've seen in a while. Even the ED was basically that. Although hey...it had a border around the clips . Episode was still fine. But can tell how much they are trying to hurry it along. Another anime that just seems like a quick trailer for the source material instead of standing up on its own. At least the comical element should remain good. The Prince too good at what he does and sets himself up for success despite not wanting that. Going to be ruling that Kingdom with his lovely assistant for a long time. __________________ Anime-Evo

2022-01-11, 10:20	Link #4
leongsh Daijoubu! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Malaysia	Episode 1: Justy Tylor (of the show Irresponsible Captain Tylor) has been reincarnated to this kingdom as Prince Wein?

2022-01-11, 10:41	Link #5
nfsac Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lineage 2 - Age: 32	The plot had an ok pace during the episode despiste they choosing to rush and compress some events of the manga/LN beggining. Some manga chapters were really boring due to this. The fighting scenes were a bit poor in execution though. Is this 12/13 episodes? The reduced amount of episodes, aka 1 Core, is what is causing several shows to come out as rushed adaptations.

2022-01-11, 12:32	Link #7
BWTraveller Born to ship Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Texas	I'm reminded of a dumb LA movie I was made to watch in Japanese class years ago, centered on a group of boys who somehow ended up in a synchronized swimming club. They begged a dolphin trainer to teach them, and he just used them like slaves and dumped them wherever he could in hopes they'd give up, only to be shocked that the crap he put them through actually made them good at it. Definitely not "Realist Hero". More like an antithesis to it. But fun to watch back-to-back, switching from an outsider who's determined to make the kingdom that took him in into a powerhouse that can take on the world to a lazy bum who, despite being raised as the heir, just wants to improve his country's value enough to sell it but instead ends up stumbling into more and more wealth and power.

2022-01-11, 13:27	Link #8
nfsac Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lineage 2 - Age: 32	Could we have this topic moved to Current series?

2022-01-11, 14:06	Link #11
nfsac Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lineage 2 - Age: 32	Notice how the series starts with the death of the emperor of Earthwold. They wanna introduce some characters asap.

2022-01-11, 15:55	Link #13
nfsac Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lineage 2 - Age: 32	Sometimes its best to just start at the point they wanna focus than compress 2 volumes in 2 episodes. They will focus on a certain character introduction and make the show from there. I assume next episode we already meet most of the characters. The interview with the ambassador, who has the same seyuu of Rias Gremory, was too fast. The intro also focused too much in a Blonde Lady. I wonder if she is related to the Emperor that was announced dead on first minute of the series... Last edited by nfsac; 2022-01-11 at 16:34.

2022-01-11, 21:13	Link #14
HandofFate Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Actually really enjoyed it. I could tell things were compressed, but they did a good job of making it comprehensible. Followed the logic of the Prince, and understood why the battle went the way it did. Love the MC, one of my favorite archetypes is the lazy MC who thru misunderstandings or luck of trying to get out of work, just creates more work for him. Different from asshole MCs, where the person here is lazy, but he's not a lazy asshole. Battle scenes were serviceable, not fancy, but it showed clearly what was going on. Only thing I was unsure of was who the ambassador was, future episodes will probably show her again, but I guess the small kingdom and everyone else is under the umbrella of the Empire, and that was who the ambassador lady was from? Or was it a neighboring empire from their border __________________ ...

2022-01-12, 00:05	Link #17
Marina2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Out of the new three shows aired in the same day, I like this one the most. MC is so entertaining to watch. His assistant and sister are cute. I will also give them a thump up for not using Ugly 3D Solider CGI in battle scene. __________________

2022-01-12, 00:54	Link #19
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep1: There isn't a better way to tell your audience you have no budget than starting the episode with extremely shoddy CG and an OP that uses animation from actual episodes. I say that if the protagonist stopped having seizures and pouting around (I assume this is supposed to be funny), it would be at least watchable? Also, it was apparently rushed, but I have a funny feeling the humor and budget aren't problems that resulted from that, so... yeah. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2022-01-12, 05:46	Link #20
Random14 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	Hm, not too bad intro (budget issues aside), I find Wein entertaining. He's definitely not dumb, his plans all sounded at least somewhat sensible, just that luck and misreading people are tripping him up. Well, part of it is also that he doesn't factor in that everyone else is much more reckless than he is. Even hearing comments about rushing, didn't expect them to get that far in one episode. I worry a bit about the rest of the season's quality, but I'm already interested in picking up the novels now. I'll probably follow this series, at least the premise is relatively simpler.