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Dream_Traveller · 2008-08-10, 05:12

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Originally Posted by patnam

Nunnally's whereabout is unknown... but then Lelouch has to presume she marked as deceased. Therefore, he will have more rage, berserk and he's ready to enter into the demon mode...
Meanwhile, Suzaku is now a second mass murderer after Euphie (thanks to Freya)... but I don't see any civillians (including Milly) perished in explosive when it happened within the Tokyo Government area only affected...
What happened to Gino and Anya anyway when the Freya activated?
Did Gulford truly died in explosive?

Anya...well, fell after the Geass reaction. However, her Frame's Float Unit did quickly flicker back on, so I assume she retreated from the battlefield. Gino...well, not sure. And yes, Guilford did perish, sadly...

ZeroSama · 2008-08-10, 05:13

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Originally Posted by srb

But Schneizel isn't Suzaku's immediate commander, and Schneizel has no command authority over the Lancelot.

What part of Schenziel owns the lancelot do you not understand? Suzaku is just a pilot. Schenziel is letting him use the lancelot since he is his patron.

Schenziel could take the Lancelot away from him and Suzaku is stuck flying a mook unit until he gets another patron and thsi is very unlikely now he has crossed the 2nd Prince Schenziel.

mechalord · 2008-08-10, 05:14

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

That's another thing too. It was ordered to put it on the Lancelot. He basically had two options, do what he's told and be able to join the battle, or refuse probably see himself replaced as Lancelot's pilot. As a Knight of Round Suzaku has a lot of clout, but he isn't allowed to act with impunity, he still has to follow his immediate commanders orders and frankly it being Suzaku, he would listen anyway if he wasn't a Knight of Round.

The airplane was pointing away from the explosion/implosion and the strip was on the very edge of that crater. Sayoko could have hit the takeoff switch and the plane could have jetted off.

I think we see Tamaki get into a chair in the preview. For all we know he crashes next to the plane and tries to pilot Nunnally and Sayoko back.

Lelouch is going all nuts and then all of a sudden the big idiot shows up with his sister and he's like "what's up."

He seems to be happy. Maybe he thinks he is going to ger promoted for "capturing" the governor.

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Milly: the fighting was going on all over the city. Only a chuck of it was blown up. I say she gets out fine or maybe Rivalz shows up and she gets on his bike. Meh. No reason to think she's dead.

Nunnally: several ways she can get out of it. VV could teleport, I think. Charles took his code. Maybe he can warp, also. At least, I thought VV could port. Romeyer or Sayoko could have hit the catapult launcher and that plane could have barely escaped. Tamaki seems happy in the preview. Maybe he finds them. Why else would he be happy?

Kallen crying: Nunnally.

I say the next episodes ends with a huge revelation about Anya.

morbosfist · 2008-08-10, 05:15

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Originally Posted by srb

But Schneizel isn't Suzaku's immediate commander, and Schneizel has no command authority over the Lancelot. Schneizel may have supreme command of all military forces in Area 11, but Suzaku is not part of the regular command structure and would not have to fly off with Freya attached to his KMF.

The fact that he does so, in a battle where millions of civilians could die to it if it was fired, or somehow malfunctioned (it's untried technology) and went off by itself... I don't buy it. That's not Suzaku.

That is very Suzaku. Suzaku is under the command of Schneizel, because the entirety of the armed forces are under his command. When the Emperor deployed them, they were subject to that. Plus, in Suzaku's mind, following orders is paramount. He would never disobey a member of the royal family. it would strike against the core of who he is. When they said the bomb stays, Suzaku had no choice but to keep it.

Seibee · 2008-08-10, 05:16

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Originally Posted by mechalord

The airplane was pointing away from the explosion/implosion and the strip was on the very edge of that crater. Sayoko could have hit the takeoff switch and the plane could have jetted off.

I think we see Tamaki get into a chair in the preview. For all we know he crashes next to the plane and tries to pilot Nunnally and Sayoko back.

Lelouch is going all nuts and then all of a sudden the big idiot shows up with his sister and he's like "what's up."

He seems to be happy. Maybe he thinks he is going to ger promoted for "capturing" the governor.

That sounds like something Tamaki would do. Plus it'd be all kinds of awesome. They'd have to lock Rollo in a box though..

srb · 2008-08-10, 05:18

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Originally Posted by ZeroSama

What part of Schenziel owns the lancelot do you not understand? Suzaku is just a pilot. Schenziel is letting him use the lancelot since he is his patron.

Suzaku is a Knight of Rounds. He answers to the Emperor and the Emperor only. The original Lancelot research was funded by Schneizel, but as Suzaku is a Knight of Rounds, and all Knight of Rounds now have a seventh-generation KMF (some apparently based on Gawain's frame, like the Galahad, and others are either new or based on Lancelot's technologies) it is quite safe to assume that the upgraded Lancelot Conquista has been recquisitioned by Suzaku as his personal KMF due to his position as a Knight of Rounds, and he would have received it, by Imperial edict.

Kaioshin Sama · 2008-08-10, 05:19

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Originally Posted by ZeroSama

What part of Schenziel owns the lancelot do you not understand? Suzaku is just a pilot. Schenziel is letting him use the lancelot since he is his patron.

Schenziel could take the Lancelot away from him and Suzaku is stuck flying a mook unit until he gets another patron and thsi is very unlikely now he has crossed the 2nd Prince Schenziel.

As far as I can tell Schneizel pretty much funds the entire science division of the Britannian military including that Dallas laboratory as well.

From Wikipedia:

Schneizel sponsors a number of experimental projects throughout the series. He is the patron of Lloyd Asplund, developer of the Lancelot, funded the construction of the Gawain, and takes possession of one of the Thought Elevators in Japan to study it.

@Srb: Okay now your grasping at straws. That's pure theory that just happens to be one that supports your point of view. Think about it. Schneizel owns the bomb and owns Lancelot, Schneizel says the bomb goes on Lancelot. The bomb goes on Lancelot. Suzaku could have refused to pilot it, but Schneizel would have just found someone else. Also Suzaku would need the emperors permission to override an order by Schneizel too you realize. As I understand it the Emperor has to give him the express privilige to do something before he can use it as a reason to override one of Schneizel's orders anyway. Remember that time the Knight of One disagreed with Schneizel's policy of containment in the Chinese Federation and wanted to go to war with them, but had to go before the Emperor to ask permission to basically override him and conduct his own war there anyway. The Emperor then did his "only fools wage war" speech and suddenly the Knight of One was all in agreement and thus couldn't get his war groove on in the Chinese Federation. I think if that applies for Knight of One it applies for everyone.

As for why Suzaku would agree to have the bomb put on Lancelot. Remember the talk that he had with Nina where Nina asked him to look after it for Euphemia's sake or whatnot. Suzaku basically being the self-loathing person he is felt he had to take on the burden of carrying Freya. And when you think about it, under normal circumstances if you know you have no plans to use a weapon and don't want to see it used and felt you could keep that from happening, you'd probably want to accept responsibility for it to. Just so it doesn't go to somebody like Luciano or Bismarck or even Anya and Gino frankly. I think all of them would be likely to use it if ordered. Under normal circumstances and without the live Geass, the bomb was safest with Suzaku the idealist.

morbosfist · 2008-08-10, 05:20

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

As far as I can tell Schneizel pretty much funds the entire science division of the Britannian military including that Dallas laboratory as well.

From Wikipedia:

Schneizel sponsors a number of experimental projects throughout the series. He is the patron of Lloyd Asplund, developer of the Lancelot, funded the construction of the Gawain, and takes possession of one of the Thought Elevators in Japan to study it.

That's stretching it a bit. He funds experiments. Others do the mass-producing.

ZeroSama · 2008-08-10, 05:21

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

As far as I can tell Schneizel pretty much funds the entire science division of the Britannian military including that Dallas laboratory as well.

From Wikipedia:

Schneizel sponsors a number of experimental projects throughout the series. He is the patron of Lloyd Asplund, developer of the Lancelot, funded the construction of the Gawain, and takes possession of one of the Thought Elevators in Japan to study it.

One more good reason not to cross him then.

mechalord · 2008-08-10, 05:28

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Originally Posted by patnam

Did Gulford truly died in explosive?

Yeah. We saw his mecha get fully enveloped by the bubbble.

Anyhow, it's not really a nuke. This WMD is nothing like the crude nuke she tried to build. She has had access to Schneizels resources. This is an imploding vaporizing bubble thing. It's like a mini-blackhole.

No fallout, no mushroom, just a big hole.

ZeroSama · 2008-08-10, 05:31

Who else thinks they misnamed this EP? Insted of "the Flash of Fleija" i think it should've been named "Kallen Strikes Back. Hard."

Majek · 2008-08-10, 05:35

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Originally Posted by ZeroSama

Who else thinks they misnamed this EP? Insted of "the Flash of Fleija" i think it should've been named "Kallen Strikes Back. Hard."

Hax Gurren more likely. >_<

serenade_beta · 2008-08-10, 05:37

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Spoiler for ep18:

ZeroSama · 2008-08-10, 05:39

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Originally Posted by Majek

Hax Gurren more likely. >_<

Don't worry you'll get your hax LA soon enough to make up for it. It'll probably be even more haxed.

UltimateClash · 2008-08-10, 05:44

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Originally Posted by mechalord

Anyhow, it's not really a nuke. This WMD is nothing like the crude nuke she tried to build. She has had access to Schneizels resources. This is an imploding vaporizing bubble thing. It's like a mini-blackhole.

That's what I thought....Then I saw this:

http://randomc.maximum7.net/image/CO...Large%2037.jpg

Nuclear Fission IS involved. I don't quite know how Nina butchered it to do what it does, but, by definition, it is a nuke.

v1nx · 2008-08-10, 05:45

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Originally Posted by ZeroSama

Don't worry you'll get your hax LA soon enough to make up for it. It'll probably be even more haxed.

Do want LA with Fleja(or what was it? XD) machinegun

ZeroSama · 2008-08-10, 05:46

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Originally Posted by v1nx

Do want LA with Fleja(or what was it? XD) machinegun

That would still not overcome Lelouchs plot armor.

Tkpenalty · 2008-08-10, 05:48

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Originally Posted by mechalord

Yeah. We saw his mecha get fully enveloped by the bubbble.

Anyhow, it's not really a nuke. This WMD is nothing like the crude nuke she tried to build. She has had access to Schneizels resources. This is an imploding vaporizing bubble thing. It's like a mini-blackhole.

No fallout, no mushroom, just a big hole.

It is a nuke, it uses the nuclear fission process to blast everything, but the sakuradite prevents the explosion from going more than its designated diameter.

Sigh.... epic. I haven't seen anything this epic in anime yet.

and its my bday today 8D a nice bday present....

Dream_Traveller · 2008-08-10, 05:49

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Spoiler for ep18:

...Sayoko, Nunnally and Romeyer are unknown. Missing. And in anime terms that usually means alive, not dead.

Graus · 2008-08-10, 05:50

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Originally Posted by mechalord

Yeah. We saw his mecha get fully enveloped by the bubbble.

Anyhow, it's not really a nuke. This WMD is nothing like the crude nuke she tried to build. She has had access to Schneizels resources. This is an imploding vaporizing bubble thing. It's like a mini-blackhole.

No fallout, no mushroom, just a big hole.

Heh, cant help but to think about MIDAS WMD from Front Mission 3.

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2008-08-10, 05:37	Link #233
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! Spoiler for ep18: USO DA!! USO DA!! Nunnallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! ! Uwahh... Kuso! Kusotare gaaa!! Nina... You f*ing bch!!! DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! JUST DIE NOW! IN EVERY SINGLE WAY POSSIBLE!! IN THE MOST PAINFUL ONE!! :f rustrated::fru strated::frust rated: Hah... The worst... Not only did Nunnally die, but Sayoko died too. The rest... don't really care... Asahina was a goner either way (in various meanings), and Guilford... died an "honorable" death. Stupid vampire 10 died, good. Random female knightmare pilots die, expected. Wah... This really is the worst... And Rolo is still alive......... In the meantime, Orange was cool this episode, nod, cool... I won't blame Suzaku here... No reason too. It's nice to see that he didn't fall low enough to drop the bomb on his own... ON-THE-OTHER-HAND... Nina... Schniezal... Unforgivable. Absolutely... Lelouch... Preview: ....................................Nah, Nunnally is still alive. She got teleported to safety by a fairy. Yep, that's it. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

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ZeroSama All Hail Lelouch! Author Join Date: May 2008 Location: In His Majesties Service. Age: 40	Who else thinks they misnamed this EP? Insted of "the Flash of Fleija" i think it should've been named "Kallen Strikes Back. Hard."