2012-07-24, 18:52 | Link #142 | |
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I really like Kirito so far. Seems like a nice level-headed hero figure.
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2012-07-27, 11:42 | Link #143 | |
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With regards to Sachi, he makes it clear they didn't have a "romantic relationship" during their time together, but it's pretty obvious that they were getting closer and closer. She was a shy and timid girl after all. It's truly a heart breaking tale. |
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2012-08-13, 18:35 | Link #144 |
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Hello, I'm an anime-only viewer, and I am interested in Kirito's character. I have a few questions for the novel-readers regarding this. I don't mind spoilers, but I think this could be answered without revealing too much of the plot.
Can you describe/summarize what 'flaws' this Kirito character has? Anything, like his Achilles' Heels or his Kryptonite, fundamental or even potentially fatal personality problems. Something like how Sou Touma from QED is a super genius but can't handle human relationships, or how Aoi Toori from Horizon needs to be constantly happy or risk being dead the next instant. He's a good character, and I like him, but put too much goodness it will make a character somewhat unbalanced. Likewise if a character has too much flaw and no real development. Maybe I should get to actually read the novels, but as of now, I don't really have the will to read any LNs (happens all the time. I'm moody in how I watch my favorite anime as well, often withholding an entire season or two), but this Kirito is certainly amusing so I'd like to know more about him soon. Thanks in advance.
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2012-08-13, 20:38 | Link #145 |
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Well I don't really see it as a fault, but he blames himself for actions he did to save others. Such as him having to hurt some people in order for self defense or to save a friend, and then thinking he could have acted otherwise and prevented damage. He tends to then think of these actions on occasions and it has a psychological impact on him. Also not really a problem, but Kirito gets close to other girls with out knowing it. It's just his personality to be nice to people but he ends up getting the girls jealous at each other at times All of these are realistic and the author of the LN does a great job developing his character (in my view.) He also learns to solve some of his smaller flaws along his journeys. There isn't too much flaw so he is a well balanced character. |
2012-08-13, 22:34 | Link #147 |
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He doesn't really have some singular, defining, all consuming flaw like you seem to be looking for. At the start, he ditched Klein, the only friend he had in the game, because he didn't want to take on the responsibility for protecting Klein's friends, and the responsibility for their death if one of them was killed while he was trying to lead them to the next town. He left everyone else in town, the majority of which didn't even know the basics he'd showed Klein, to their own devices out of his desire for maximizing his chances for self preservation. His reluctance to reveal his level and his full knowledge to the guild he joined resulted in them being overconfident, and ending up in a trap he could survive, but they couldn't, and he couldn't protect them either. Small stuff like that is his flaws. |
2012-08-13, 23:15 | Link #148 |
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Actually a well balanced character would have more important flaws to compensate for his/her strengths. Kirito lacks that sort of depth. He's an entertaining character no doubt, but I don't think he's well balanced. The author could definitely put a little more thought into this IMO.
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2012-08-14, 02:03 | Link #150 |
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Nope, Kirito definitely is a Sis-con.
From Sachi to Scilica, the signs were there. Lawl As for Kirito's flaws...I agree with some of the posts above. Although I consider him The Ace...which is why people are attracted to him heh.
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As for being a chick magnet...has there been any serious drama occurring because of this? I'm guessing not, and it's your typical heroines-battling-for-hero's-attention mishaps Maybe not, but these are often symptoms for some flaws. That's why I thought perhaps there's some underlying condition or some past to why Kirito behaves the way he is, like how Haruyuki of Accel World becomes very good at gaming as an escape from reality. Though it doesn't seem to be the case as of yet. Quote:
I mean, shows like Star Driver is a ridiculous pile of unbalanced characters, but I enjoyed it anyways because it obviously doesn't take itself seriously either. Spoiler for oot rant:
So, if Kirito turns out to be the near-perfect main character with little to no significant flaws (which seems to be the case judging from our fellow users' reply here), it won't necessarily ruin the entire show for me, but it still depends on how the character Kirito is being handled. I guess I'll just continue to watch the anime for now, and hope that occasional mood bursts swing me to finally read the LN (though honestly if I'm going to read anything, it'll probably be Horizon first. Good thing I can read Japanese! ) EDIT: Somehow I suddenly get the idea that SAO would be an even more interesting story if it has multiple protagonists for the different arcs, maybe making Kirito occasionally appear as the legendary badass that the different protagonists either respect or hate or whatever. Similar to how Mai in Mai Otome was handled. This way, Kirito can stay as The Ace but not so dragged on it became like the case I put in the spoiler. Though, since I don't read the LN, thus I don't know the structure of it, so I don't know if this approach is possible for the author to implement.
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2012-08-14, 07:49 | Link #154 | |
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SAO is really entertaining for me and I know it sells a lot, but the writing on the character department is lacking, even for the shounen genre. What's really good about SAO is the setting. The attention to detail and that sort of thing. If the characters were as good you would have something else. Yeah, a sort of ensemble cast scenario (like in Horizon) would probably suit this kind of setting better. Tori is as much the protagonist of his story as Kirito is his, but having the spotlight scattered amount the whole cast makes quite the difference.
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Another minor issue is his looks. It's so common with girly looking male heroes that anime viewers most likely doesn't even notice it anymore. But note that Kirito had a rather different looking avatar originally, before the mirrors changed him and everyone else. Kirito doesn't like to be mistaken for a girl, which has happened to him several times. This is actually why he originally approached Asuna, she was hooded and he assumed she was a feminine looking guy like himself. But other then that so should it be noted that he is looking extra good right now as he is essentially a computer geek that likes to play games and SOA is right up his alley. That he is more of a hardcore player then most does make him look pretty cool here. But he did fail in kendo in real life and obviously so will a skill at computer games have a limited use in real life. It's just that right now so is SOA the entire world, so being good at it makes for a cool looking guy. It's also worth noting that while he is good at fighting in SOA so does he have few other skills in there. He had to ask his friend too appraise the weapon, he doesn't have the cooking skill of Asuna, etc. He is a true powerplayer in that he only learns skills that has an actual use in hunting. |
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2012-08-14, 09:06 | Link #156 | |
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2012-08-14, 09:56 | Link #157 | |
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Although in recent episodes such as "Murder inside the area," Kirito is shown as having strong deductive or critical thinking skills, one of his character flaws I'd say is that he is too impulsive and emotional Spoiler for LN pseudo-spoilers on impulsiveness:
Also, this works cause he's the main character and he has plot armor, but in general he has a "Let me take care of it!" attitude that is sometimes shockingly dense. It's almost a tad chauvinistic at times. I'm generally a critical thinker, a planner and am almost coldly analytic .. not a "hero character" myself.. And I can immediately think of half a dozen ways to eliminate him. So, typical "hero" flaws, right? |
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2012-08-14, 10:51 | Link #158 |
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That would be just a character trait. You may find it annoying but it's not an actual character flaw unless it's a real drawback for the character. Besides actual character flaws would not make the audience feel annoyed if they're well written. Like Taichi from Chihayafuru. He lacks self-confidence, which tampers with his performance in Karuta (there you see clearly how his character flaw becomes a drawback) but you don't get annoyed for the most part because you see him earnestly trying to overcome this issue, which results in some really interesting character development.
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2012-08-14, 11:06 | Link #159 |
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well to be certain in the early parts of the Aincrad arc he is quite socially awkward due to his lone wolf persona
things to take about this is his monologue during the red-nose reindeer when he is desperately keeping his level from the rest of the cats of the full moon guild and to Sacchi, He does not know what kind of backlash he will suffer if he says he's a Beater, a Clearer and A SOLO PLAYER then we have in the first part of Aincrad arc where in he pretty much ditches out trying to help Klein survive the early floors of Aincrad one he can not take the heavy burden of being responsible for other people's lives (also evident when he enters death seeker phase after Sacchi's death) he could have help Klein alone but Klein wants to find and bring his friends along this worries Kirito. I'm not sure if its a flaw of his or a charming point but he's quite a mysterious guy well dense probably and is a Sis-con at heart to the point of trying to protect Sacchi, Scilica and Lyfa to his best of his Abilities and he might be a closet Masochist how in the hell did he pump up his unarmed combat to level 900+ just imagine what he does fighting monsters with bare fists without any sword skills max skill points in SAO is 1000 |
2012-08-14, 11:13 | Link #160 |
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Sachi's older than him. Kirito's a middle schooler and most people he meets are in high school or older. And the reason he struggles so hard to protect people is because Sachi died. He didn't struggle hard enough to protect her, he just gave her reassuring words. That's his basic character arc from volume 1.
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