Mechs, Weapons, and Technology of Code Geass

[KrimzonStriker]

The dead are merely electrical imprints left behind by the electricity from their nervous system and is made manifest by higher doses of energy which can then be communicated to due to higher neurological impulses demonstrated by an advanced mental capacity from the one who is talking to them. That's the current scientific explanation for ghost sightings in the real world anyway

Hey mutations can be fixed, especially if you have the source of all creation and destruction and what not

[Dann of Thursday]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

The dead are merely electrical imprints left behind by the electricity from their nervous system and is made manifest by higher doses of energy which can then be communicated to due to higher neurological impulses demonstrated by an advanced mental capacity from the one who is talking to them. That's the current scientific explanation for ghost sightings in the real world anyway

Hey mutations can be fixed, especially if you have the source of all creation and destruction and what not

I have never heard that before and it sounds somewhat ridiculous. It doesn't entirely account for Marianne being able to communicate in real time about situations though this depends on whether she is dead or not. Or perhaps the World of C is another dimension and dying and forgetting the bodily self allows one to exist in this dimension though that sounds crazy as well.

I heard destroy and create, nothing about redoing things like that. It certainly isn't out of the question, but the Geass seems pretty black and white about that.

[KrimzonStriker]

Oh, you don't know the theory? I discussed it once during some of my old classes. It's not that the person is still alive or anything, more like they leave behind an electrical clone of themselves, and it acts according to their thought patterns apparently, like how they really would if they were still alive. So that may or may not explain how Marianne responds to the Real time situations, or it could be your whole dimension thing as well seeing as how Code Geass isn't the real world


Meh, both descriptions are pretty black and white but what you do with them is a whole nother story. Who knows, we can get the C.C dies as an immortal and then comes back as a human scenario if we apply how Geass is described.

[Dann of Thursday]

Oh, so it reacts like the person would have reacted in real life if they were alive? I somewhat wonder if we'll get such a detailed account of what is going on with all this.

She dies and is reborn normal? Hmm, possible I suppose though you would have to wonder if her memory would be intact at all.

This is getting somewhat off-topic for this thread though it is discussing some aspects of science.

[KrimzonStriker]

Yeah, let's just leave it at that for now until we get some more information. In any case you at least have a possible explanation for ghost sightings and paranormal events of the like now

[Dann of Thursday]

Yes, I suppose I do.

Back on topic: Would all Knightmare Frames we see from now to the end of the show belong to the 7th Generation?

[KrimzonStriker]

I don't think we'll ever get to the point where older generations like the 5th will be gone, 7th generation stuff is still far too rare and subject to different models and the like for them to set the standard for Britannia's core military units, along with the need for exceptional pilots to make full use of them.

Oh, your talking about new Knightmare's appearing in the series? Yeah probably, though technically we haven't 'seen' the Panzer Hummel in action yet and that seems like a cross between 4th and 5th generations models. But yeah, you can only go up in new Knightmare Frame development once you set the bar for them

[Dann of Thursday]

So I suppose we couldn't say the 8th Generation Knightmare had arrived until we saw KMFs like the Vincent become the standard for the military and we had a neew Knightmare that surpassed everything before?

[KrimzonStriker]

I'd say that's a safe bet. I tend to think that the Vincent is a cross between the 7th and 5th generation myself, a more practical version and transition then the 6th was. I think it'd take wide spread production of things like Lancelot and Mordred before we see them move onto the 8th since there isn't a real need for it and since research on 7th Generation technology has yet to be fully explored

[Dann of Thursday]

Yes I suppose that would be true. It seems hard for anyone that isn't an ace pilot to pilot a machine like the Lancelot though. I would think it would be hard for them to find that many capable pilots. I would also think they would need to begin implementing the Float System into the KMFs since flight is usually the next step up I would think.

[KrimzonStriker]

Well, they could create adapters like with Muu La Falga and Strike Gundam in the later part of Seed I guess.

And since float units are detachable from the Lancelot we would very well see them move into the mainstream soon... depending on how much energy a 5th Generation could produce given how it sucks up a lot of juice from just Lancelot

[Dann of Thursday]

Well, if they were able to make a suit like the Vincent which appears to possess most of the abilites that the Lancelot had then I would think that the Vincent a similar power system. If they do manage to start mass producing these as the show goes on (though I doubt we'll see mass units of these until perhaps near the end of the series), than it could be possible for them to have create float units for them as well.

Of course, all this seems like it would take more time than the series will actually take place in, since I don't think the time frame for R2 will be that much bigger than the one for season 1 which was about 3 months I think. It is possible that they have been making great strides in their research over the year so perhaps it is still possible.

[Nvis]

Originally Posted by Nvis

Anya/Zino Knightmares are like Kyrios & Virtue wannabes.

Moved my post here.

And I'd like to include the big gun on Lancelot's Float-unit pack that combines with Lancelot's VARIS rifle is like Throne Ein's main weapon.

That is all. *scurries away

[Narona]

And you point is ... ? .

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by Nvis

Moved my post here.

And I'd like to include the big gun on Lancelot's Float-unit pack that combines with Lancelot's VARIS rifle is like Throne Ein's main weapon.

That is all. *scurries away

yeah yeah, but go talk about it in the Gundam forum, it seems a little odd to start talking about the Zeta Gundam, FAZZ/Buster-Assault V2, etc. here.

Oh no, Rollo's Vincent is gold! must be a Hyaku Shiki clone!

[Dann of Thursday]

I have to admit that I was somewhat surpised by how the Mordred fires its cannons. That and a shield are its only real features, right?

[KrimzonStriker]

I believe it was stated to have missile launchers in the preview advertisements Dann

[Dann of Thursday]

I know it was. I was just curious if there had been anything else. I never saw much info on the Tristan's weapons though it appears to have some sort of staff or something.

[Cal-Reflector]

A while ago in this thread I made a post speculating on the size and makeup of the Britannian Empire's armed forces. A few seemed to like it, and now I've gone a step further now and come up with a much more detailed (note: obsessive) picture of the Britannian Navy's status.

The following post is large, contains many numbers and technical information regarding naval platforms. So unless that's your cup of tea, feel free to skip on to the next post:

Spoiler for The Imperial Britannian Navy, 2017:

Goal: To project a picture of what the Britannian Navy would look like in the world of CG at the time the story takes place.

Method:
1) Concept drawn from versions of the US Navy’s projected force composition.
2) Ship classes based to varying extent upon real world counterparts, with adjustments made to reflect the advanced state of military technology in the world of CG.

Chief Assumptions:
1) That the absence of nuclear technology—which was necessary for the development of modern blue water fleets and submarines—is offset by the maturity of Sakuradite technology in the world of CG. That when applied to ship propulsion, Sakuradite is at least comparable to present day nuclear power in terms of efficiency, output, and affordability, if not superior.
2) That the world of CG is in a volatile state of high military tension, with corresponding willingness from nations to spend on defense and engage in military action.
3) That Britannia, with her long coastlines, trade lanes, and overseas colonies maintains the most powerful navy in the world.
4) That Britannia, enabled by her wealth and expansionist agenda, can afford to pursue and maintain a balanced fleet, including undersea warfare, power projection, littoral combat, and amphibious assault.
5) That military technology in the world of CG (with the exception of nuclear technology) is far in advance of ours. SWATH and Trimaran multi-hull ships are assumed to be mature, possibly near obsolescent designs and the norm for all naval surface vessels.

Brittanian Navy Fleet Composition, 2017.

Surface Combatants:
Aircraft Carriers: 16
Battleships: 12
Destroyers: 90
Cruisers: 70
Littoral Combat Ships (Corvettes): 100

Subsurface Combatants:
Large Attack submarines: 72
Small Attack submarines: 28
Guided Missile Submarines: 5
Knightmare Frame Carrier Submarine: 3

Amphibious Assault and Transport:
Amphibious Assault Carrier: 16
Amphibious Transport Dock: 16
Landing Ship Dock: 32

Maritime Propositioning Force Ships (MPF (F)): 48
Logistics and Support Ships: 84

Total: 586 ships and submarines

Description of Individual Ship Classes: I've only picked a few here in order to save space. If people are interested I'll post the rest.

Battleship (BB)
Primary role: Naval fire support.
Displacement: 29,000 Tons
Length: 700 ft
Beam: 180 ft
Speed: 45 Knots
Range: 30,000 miles at 30 knots.
Complement: 340
Armament:
9 x 11 inch electromagnetic railguns in 3 advanced gun system turrets.
2700 x 11 inch rounds stored, 300 per gun.
180 peripheral vertical launch system modules.
Mix of medium and long range SAMs, anti-ship missiles, land attack missiles, and anti-submarine rockets.
4 Point-Defense SAM launchers
2 Gun-based Close in Weapons Systems
Real World Counterparts: USN DDG-1000 Zumwalt (stealth exterior and layout), German battle cruiser Scharnhorst (size and armament).
Aircraft carried: VTOL reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles (MQ-8 Fire Scout), Hangar for 2 helicopters.
Notes: Railgun performance based on US Navy tests: Muzzle velocity of 3200 meters/second, 200 nautical miles plus range, <5 m accuracy, 6 round/minute sustained rate of fire. ROF is constrained by 1) Barrel cooling 2) Electricity produced by the battleship’s power plant to recharge the guns; the future Naval railgun will require 64 mega joules per shot; a Nimitz carrier’s two nuclear reactors produce a combined 208 mega watts (joules/second).

Long Range Attack Submarines
Primary role: Anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare
Displacement: 8,400 Tons
Length: 340 ft
Beam: 40 ft
Speed: 40 Knots
Range: 16,000 miles at 25 knots submerged.
Complement: 60
Armament:
8 x 21 inch torpedo tubes; carries a mixture of 60 torpedoes, tube-launched anti-ship missiles, land-attack cruise missiles, anti-submarine rockets, or 120 Mines.
Real World Counterpart: USN SSN-21 Seawolf
Aircraft carried: None
Notes: The absence of nuclear technology in the world of CG impacts submarine design the most out of all naval vessels, because no matter how high the energy content of Sakuradite is, it still cannot compare to the near perpetual source that is nuclear power. The submarine’s range is therefore long, but not unlimited. The volume of space required for storing fuel is offset by 1) Smaller crew size and subsequently reduced living space and 2) Absence of a nuclear reactor.

Knightmare Frame Carrier Submarine
Primary role: KMF Special Assault Carrier
Displacement: 18,000 Tons
Length: 500 ft
Beam: 55 ft
Speed: 30 Knots
Range: 16,000 miles at 20 knots submerged.
Complement: Ship: 55. KMF component: 78
Armament:
4 x 21 inch torpedo tubes; carries a mixture of 20 torpedoes, tube-launched anti-ship missiles, anti-submarine rockets, or 40 Mines.
20 Silos converted to lockout chambers for deploying amphibious KMFs and combat swimmers.
4 Silos retain VLS modules, carries mix of 64 air-defense, anti-ship, land-attack, and anti-submarine missiles.
Up to 32 amphibious KMFs (Boatman), and in the future, a same number of flight-enabled KMFs.
Real World Counterpart: Ohio Class submarine.
Aircraft carried: None
Notes: Missile Submarines with VLS removed and interior layout rebuilt to accommodate and operate a KMF taskforce.

[Strettger]

Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

Oh, so it reacts like the person would have reacted in real life if they were alive? I somewhat wonder if we'll get such a detailed account of what is going on with all this.

She dies and is reborn normal? Hmm, possible I suppose though you would have to wonder if her memory would be intact at all.

This is getting somewhat off-topic for this thread though it is discussing some aspects of science.

Just want to point out how this is standing out and saying RahXephon ending to me.

If you havent seen it, its a bit like Eva. It ends with the protagonist remaking the universe, with himself married to one of the female leads and..... the other born sometime later as his own child.

If Kallen has baby C.C - you know what I will do.

Chinese.
Chainsaw.
Scriptwriters own room.
You know the rest......