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Cal-Reflector · 2012-01-08, 12:18

This is not good.

If you look at Bandai Namco's financial statements, revenue from the US (incl. toy-hobby, contents (video games, anime), etc) has plummeted by 50% in the past five years.

US operations have generated three straight years of losses; last year US operations lost more than 70 million dollars, by far the worst performing market globally.

To put that in further perspective, company wide profits were about 200M USD last year, so if they got completely out of the US they could improve profits by 35%. If I were a responsible CEO looking at these results I'd probably have done the same thing.

Vexx · 2012-01-08, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Cal-Reflector

This is not good.

If you look at Bandai Namco's financial statements, revenue from the US (incl. toy-hobby, contents (video games, anime), etc) has plummeted by 50% in the past five years.

US operations have generated three straight years of losses; last year US operations lost more than 70 million dollars, by far the worst performing market globally.

To put that in further perspective, company wide profits were about 200M USD last year, so if they got completely out of the US they could improve profits by 35%. If I were a responsible CEO looking at these results I'd probably have done the same thing.

Of course, that directly correlates to the US economic crash, no one can afford "frivolous purchases". But yeah, I'd be exiting the US market completely if I were those companies.

Ledgem · 2012-01-09, 00:47

There's a lot that may contribute to this. I get the sense that there's a sort of "media fatigue" among consumers - it feels like it was only a few years ago when DVD players were new, and now we have Blu-Ray. Whereas DVDs took over VHS tapes fairly quickly, Blu-Ray isn't replacing DVDs so readily. To top it off, Apple is leading a pretty aggressive campaign to make physical media a thing of the past.

I have a few anime DVDs. I used to dream of having bookshelves filled with DVDs, similar to what Chris Beveridge of Anime on DVD had going. Now, even though the entire box sets from my favorite series can be had for bargain-basement prices, I'm not buying. I like the idea of having a physical product and nice box art, but in practice I find myself using Apple's model more often (pure digital). I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction that we're headed.

Master_Yoma · 2012-08-31, 21:27

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...ga-novel-sales

Well no more Bandai after next year time to get some dvds when I still can

I just hope some one picks up the Lucky Star manga

***CrowKenobi*** · 2012-08-31, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Master_Yoma

I just hope some one picks up the Lucky Star manga

That and the Kannagi manga too.

Roloko vi Britannia · 2012-09-01, 05:59

Sucks for us Gundam and Code Geass fans who are pretty much going to get forced to import now. -___-

I'm going to have to get CG R1/R2, the last half of Zeta, 08th MS team, and 00 series for anime and Code Geass Knight and Queens for manga. Wing I can watch online and I want to import SEED remaster. I don't want to waste money on G since I can stream that too and SEED Destiny isn't worth $40~$80.

I wonder how long its going to take for used DVDs from Bandai titles to skyrocket in price on Amazon? xD

I'm not worried about the other titles since those can be rescued. Sentai will rescue K-On! since they already have the second season.

ttdestroy · 2012-09-01, 06:18

The State of anime in America is terrible, pretty much importing everything now. I thought Bandai was an anime titan what with all the popular series they licensed.

I feel really shitty now, I need to be alone with my collection of Bandai dvds.

Vexx · 2012-09-01, 12:40

I've gotten to where I always buy the japanese manga. It may be torturous to translate (or find scanlations) but at least I'm far more likely to have a complete series. I'm wary of even mentioning publishers I like any more.

(looks over at his complete japanese editions of ARIA and Tsukuyomi Moon Phase versus the several restarts of english ARIA and the dropped-without-explanation two books before finish TMP).

Kirarakim · 2012-09-01, 13:09

I never bought Cowboy Bebop and I am thinking now might be a good time. But I'd be surprised out of all Bandai titles, Bebop doesn't get licensed rescued.

Manga fans are probably more out of luck. This is why I hate that so much manga comes out notoriously slow here compared to its release schedule in Japan.

asaqe · 2012-09-01, 14:55

This is why the Korean Wave is going to prosper while we are being pushed to irrelevancy.

Kirarakim · 2012-09-01, 15:57

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Originally Posted by asaqe

This is why the Korean Wave is going to prosper while we are being pushed to irrelevancy.

I think its seen as newer and fresh here but it doesn't seem any less of niche than Japanese entertainment culture in North America.

gsilver · 2012-09-01, 20:29

Crap. Everything will be going OOP, and I still need to see GitS:SAC and Wolf's Rain.

...Or just about any Gundam.

Vexx · 2012-09-01, 20:58

yeah, I don't know where this "korean wave overwhelms" comes from ... its barely a quirk on the North Am fan scene ... and j-pop is barely a bump. All very niche.

MakubeX2 · 2012-09-01, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Vexx

yeah, I don't know where this "korean wave overwhelms" comes from ... its barely a quirk on the North Am fan scene ... and j-pop is barely a bump. All very niche.

Niche or not, you do not put up a show at Madison Square Garden to a full house crowd without some connections.

Master_Yoma · 2012-09-01, 21:31

I wonder what Adult Swim going to do with out CB, GITS and E7 witch I still need to pick up but ive watch CB so many time I dont need to and still need to pick up

Funi to the rescue and put some in some into SAVE

Vexx · 2012-09-01, 22:03

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Originally Posted by MakubeX2

Niche or not, you do not put up a show at Madison Square Garden to a full house crowd without some connections.

yeah, I saw clips of that.. I think they also bought time on the Letterman show.

demonix · 2012-09-02, 07:37

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Originally Posted by gsilver

Crap. Everything will be going OOP, and I still need to see GitS:SAC and Wolf's Rain.

...Or just about any Gundam.

Everything that's ghost in the shell related is distributed by manga and not Bandai so it is likely that there will still be stock coming out.

SeijiSensei · 2012-09-02, 07:52

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Originally Posted by Vexx

yeah, I saw clips of that.. I think they also bought time on the Letterman show.

No, that was Girls Generation plugging their first US album release. Murray seemed unimpressed, but they made Regis blow his whistle!

I think they needed a bigger stage.

DragoZERO · 2012-09-02, 12:13

This is bad. The NA anime industry is dying. Let's hope it remains afloat long enough for the economy to recover because that is the root of this.

Vexx · 2012-09-02, 12:20

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO

This is bad. The NA anime industry is dying. Let's hope it remains afloat long enough for the economy to recover because that is the root of this.

That would be the heart... you have to have a sufficient pile of teens and 20-somethings with lots of disposable income because there aren't many people in my age bracket making up the difference

And that's one thing we're severely lacking for the last 5 years - young people who can find income. Imagine....

2012-01-08, 12:18	Link #41
Cal-Reflector Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	This is not good. If you look at Bandai Namco's financial statements, revenue from the US (incl. toy-hobby, contents (video games, anime), etc) has plummeted by 50% in the past five years. US operations have generated three straight years of losses; last year US operations lost more than 70 million dollars, by far the worst performing market globally. To put that in further perspective, company wide profits were about 200M USD last year, so if they got completely out of the US they could improve profits by 35%. If I were a responsible CEO looking at these results I'd probably have done the same thing. __________________

2012-01-09, 00:47	Link #43
Ledgem Love Yourself Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeast USA Age: 38	There's a lot that may contribute to this. I get the sense that there's a sort of "media fatigue" among consumers - it feels like it was only a few years ago when DVD players were new, and now we have Blu-Ray. Whereas DVDs took over VHS tapes fairly quickly, Blu-Ray isn't replacing DVDs so readily. To top it off, Apple is leading a pretty aggressive campaign to make physical media a thing of the past. I have a few anime DVDs. I used to dream of having bookshelves filled with DVDs, similar to what Chris Beveridge of Anime on DVD had going. Now, even though the entire box sets from my favorite series can be had for bargain-basement prices, I'm not buying. I like the idea of having a physical product and nice box art, but in practice I find myself using Apple's model more often (pure digital). I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction that we're headed. __________________

2012-08-31, 21:27	Link #44
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...ga-novel-sales Well no more Bandai after next year time to get some dvds when I still can I just hope some one picks up the Lucky Star manga __________________

2012-09-01, 05:59	Link #46
Roloko vi Britannia The Dark Empress Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Battleship Hyperion Age: 33	Sucks for us Gundam and Code Geass fans who are pretty much going to get forced to import now. -___- I'm going to have to get CG R1/R2, the last half of Zeta, 08th MS team, and 00 series for anime and Code Geass Knight and Queens for manga. Wing I can watch online and I want to import SEED remaster. I don't want to waste money on G since I can stream that too and SEED Destiny isn't worth $40~$80. I wonder how long its going to take for used DVDs from Bandai titles to skyrocket in price on Amazon? xD I'm not worried about the other titles since those can be rescued. Sentai will rescue K-On! since they already have the second season. __________________

2012-09-01, 06:18	Link #47
ttdestroy Hardcore meets Casual Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Age: 35	The State of anime in America is terrible, pretty much importing everything now. I thought Bandai was an anime titan what with all the popular series they licensed. I feel really shitty now, I need to be alone with my collection of Bandai dvds. __________________ They say you don't grow up You just grow old, It's safe to say I haven't done both.

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Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	I've gotten to where I always buy the japanese manga. It may be torturous to translate (or find scanlations) but at least I'm far more likely to have a complete series. I'm wary of even mentioning publishers I like any more. (looks over at his complete japanese editions of ARIA and Tsukuyomi Moon Phase versus the several restarts of english ARIA and the dropped-without-explanation two books before finish TMP). __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2012-09-01, 13:09	Link #49
Kirarakim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	I never bought Cowboy Bebop and I am thinking now might be a good time. But I'd be surprised out of all Bandai titles, Bebop doesn't get licensed rescued. Manga fans are probably more out of luck. This is why I hate that so much manga comes out notoriously slow here compared to its release schedule in Japan. __________________ Twitter MAL

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gsilver Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Crap. Everything will be going OOP, and I still need to see GitS:SAC and Wolf's Rain. ...Or just about any Gundam. __________________ ◕‿‿◕

2012-09-01, 20:58	Link #53
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	yeah, I don't know where this "korean wave overwhelms" comes from ... its barely a quirk on the North Am fan scene ... and j-pop is barely a bump. All very niche. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2012-09-01, 21:31	Link #55
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	I wonder what Adult Swim going to do with out CB, GITS and E7 witch I still need to pick up but ive watch CB so many time I dont need to and still need to pick up Funi to the rescue and put some in some into SAVE __________________

2012-09-02, 12:13	Link #59
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