2011-05-25, 13:04 | Link #22 |
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hmm, i was hoping for the actual reveal of the killer...
given the set up it could be almost anyone which was obviously the point but i was hoping for clear hints at least... probably some chekove's gun i missed somewhere... random note, that cookie with the fish person is awesome =)
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2011-05-25, 13:05 | Link #23 |
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Yup, this was a great chapter, all right. I especially loved the Decken scenes (he's actually kinda starting to remind me of Buggy, somewhat ). And yes, the princes were awesome, too. Otohime's death was quite the touching scene, though the identity of her killer still remains a mystery.......
Anyways, going back to the sea king argument, I feel kinda silly having to point this out again, but it was specifically said that sea kings can literally be as big as entire islands. Furthermore, there's a pretty damn huge advantage to having an underwater island being guarded by those titanic beasts. Now true, we've seen some individuals who are capable of destroying islands themselves (Whitebeard (and Blackbeard now that he has his power), Eneru, and I suppose any of the admirals), but the seawater weakness (and heck, just the water pressure alone) would work against those guys. So again, making Shirahoshi the island's new guardian would actually work out quite well! In fact, something just occurred to me: If the island truly does get destroyed, why not move the entire population on top of the biggest sea king(s) that Shirahoshi can find? It could work because that would allow for a mobile island that can travel to and from the surface as often as the residents please. It would also be a neat way for Otohime's dream for human/merfolk relations to finally become realized...... Edit: Oh, and that's a neat catch with that fish-lady! Now we just need an octopus-man who resembles that shipwright doodle that Luffy made at Water 7...... |
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I'm putting my money on Hodi at this point as the killer.
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the Anti-sea-king coating helps the ships avoid detection but it is far from perfect. If you recall when the Vice admiral went to see Boa Hancock, He pointed out that even though they are avoiding detection, if they just sit in one place the sea king would eventually take notice. And they DID as he had to kill atleast one sea king to to protect this ship... I doubt that tech will be all that useful underwater espeically with Shirahoshi pointing out and ordering the seakings to attack What makes matters so bad is that even the admirals will have difficulty protecting themselves as the ship coating is very fragile... one good attack from either side and can pop the bubble and sink them. Quote:
Though its odd seeing how he doesn't seem to bare much resembalance to one unlike other fishmen... like what does he have 4 legs?
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2011-05-25, 13:09 | Link #25 | |
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Props to Oda on that one
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2011-05-25, 13:26 | Link #26 | |
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Let me put it this way - a blockade of sea-kings backed up by tight fishman patrol wouldn't stop the WG making an assault (and probably winning even), if they absolutely had to. But the risk for expensive casualties, including hard-to-replace top tiers, makes me think they would generally leave fishman island alone as long as they didn't stir up resistance elsewhere. Agreed. As we saw during Luffy's encounter with the Kraken, the major worry is the bubble breaking. The sea kings don't have to kill a top-tier one on one, they just have to damage the ship enough. |
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2011-05-25, 14:00 | Link #27 | |
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2011-05-25, 14:37 | Link #31 | |
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^Actually, I was sorta thinking that the casket might be referring to Bonney's devil fruit. After all, Oda has a policy about keeping non-DF related magic out of the series......
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No offense, but to me, this post just screams "HUURRRR, MORE PLOT??? ME WANT ACTION NOW". Yes, I knew Naruto would jump right to people's minds as as soon as I brought up that suggestion. However, what I actually had in mind when I made that post was Crocus chilling out in Laboon's belly, believe it or not. I still think living on top of a giant sea monster isn't all that implausible, however..... |
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2011-05-25, 15:10 | Link #35 | ||
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Yeah sure, let's end this storyline already! Nevermind the decade+ long amount of buildup it had, or loose ends like Tiger and Arlong's legacy, Otohime's dream, the poneglyph, Shirley's prediction, the world nobles, or..... y'know, the huge ongoing racial conflict between humanity and fish-people. Nope, all of that stuff's irrelevant because all that's important is that pretty-pretty princess will become NEXT NAKAMA! Ahem.... anyways, the flashback might not be over yet (though it's obviously very close to ending). I could see Jinbei elaborating on some more recent events like the formation of the new merman pirates (since he still has yet to explain why he doesn't want Luffy and Hody to clash), or even Big Mom's offer to protect the island in Whitebeard's place. We also still don't know the whereabouts of other former Sun pirates like Aladdin...... Quote:
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2011-05-25, 15:58 | Link #36 | |
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Beside a brief shot of Otohime's funeral, and a few reaction pages of growing racism now that she is dead, there isn't much left to cover (unless Oda wants to reveal something about Hodi during this flashback and not a later briefer one) in order to catch up to the current storyline. |
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2011-05-25, 16:05 | Link #37 |
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I wonder if we'll find out who Otohime's murderer is in the final stages of the flashback, or during the present timeline.
But yeah, i ;_____;. Hahaha brilliant. I wish i could give Oda a pat on the back for this.
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2011-05-25, 17:37 | Link #39 |
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Even though I knew it was coming, Otohime's death still felt kind of... abrupt. So, who might her killer be? VDD (unlikely)? Hodi? A former member of the Sun pirate (I like the idea that it's Aladdin)? Someone working for the government (CP9 or whatever)? The list of suspects is huge, considering how many people on both sides would never accept peace between fishmen and humans.
Hahaha oh wow
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2011-05-25, 23:39 | Link #40 |
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Y'know... I'm starting to think about the whole "Shirahosi joining the Strawhats" thing. Oda seemed to draw alot of attention to that machine that changes young fishmen to mature fishmen...
I'm thinking maybe something will happen that will put that into reverse, causing her to shrink. Haven't thought through the details yet~
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