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Old 2013-01-17, 22:03   Link #361
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^Heck even the guy (was it the president can't remember?) even wanted to have sex with him/her....err...whatever, when he was gonna rescue him.

Also in MGS3 he was some sort of a joke time traveling and getting beaten up. So they take the serious route, but I can't stop looking at the high heels.
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Old 2013-01-17, 22:13   Link #362
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^Heck even the guy (was it the president can't remember?) even wanted to have sex with him/her....err...whatever, when he was gonna rescue him.

Also in MGS3 he was some sort of a joke time traveling and getting beaten up. So they take the serious route, but I can't stop looking at the high heels.
I believe the president mistook Raiden for Olga, probably because both of them has white hair.

Speaking of white hairs, all of the cyborg ninjas so far are white-haired (maybe excluding Kyle Schneider?). From that, I kinda knew that Raiden will succeed Gray Fox and Olga ever since Snake gave him the HF blade. Not to mention there was two VR missions of him wearing Gray Fox's suit with the blade.
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Old 2013-01-17, 22:21   Link #363
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About the high heels. How is Raiden supposed to walk if he lost his real legs? They are actually useful when Raiden holds a sword with his feet.

The point of Raiden in Solid 2 is that Kojima thought people overrated Snake and he wanted to create more relatable and realistic characters so that the player could connect with the story. Raiden was just an average guy viewed from an Eastern perspective. However, from a Western perspective he was looked out of place. His knowledge about the story mirrored how most fans did not know about Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear: Solid Snake. His work in the end involved "virtual reality" so that he could have Solid Snake's abilities to the point he defeats 20 Metal Gears and kills Big Boss' perfect clone.

Similarly in Solid 3, Kojima created young Big Boss who was potrayed as more human Snake and was also relatable to with the player. In Solid 4, Snake was made into an old man possibly so that he could be viewed more as a human than a weapon. It looks like Kojima prefers relatable characters rather than Snake's appearance in Solid 1 which is viewed as the type of person everybody wants to be. Even in Solid 2, Snake was shown more caring that in the prequel.
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Old 2013-01-18, 02:36   Link #364
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About the high heels. How is Raiden supposed to walk if he lost his real legs? They are actually useful when Raiden holds a sword with his feet.
Which is why I'm okay with the heels. Since they're at least useful. Besides, it's like a design language for the "cyborgs" in MG universe. (The FROGS soldiers and Vamp).

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Old 2013-01-18, 02:56   Link #365
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That's actually a lot more exciting than the 7:00min trailer earlier this week Good to see the other bosses in action, there's only so many times I can watch Bladewolf

And I can tell that Monsoon is going to be a major pain >_>
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Old 2013-01-18, 03:07   Link #366
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Is it only me or the fights look far more intense than with the ones we've already seen?

The Samuel fight taking place on an open field.... kinda gives me the vibe of the final fight vs The Boss in MGS3.
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Old 2013-01-18, 03:16   Link #367
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Notice how they didn't show any in-game footage of the boss fight with Sam? They want us flying blind for that mission. Can't wait to take them all down. PG already said we'll be able to use enemy weapons after we beat them. However the only one we have seen in action being used by Raiden is Mistral's. I hope they don't pull a fast one and leave others out.

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Old 2013-01-18, 03:21   Link #368
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Notice how they didn't show any in-game footage of the boss fight with Sam?
Sam = Vergil (DMC3) ?
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Old 2013-01-18, 03:49   Link #369
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I'm a sucker for vocal theme songs, that trailer was awesome. I really really really hope this catches on with people and sells loads of copies.
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Old 2013-01-18, 04:23   Link #370
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I wish I had work... so I can do first day pick-ups.
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Old 2013-01-18, 18:33   Link #371
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Old 2013-01-18, 18:48   Link #372
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That music is really something.
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Old 2013-01-18, 18:59   Link #373
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Sorry Kojima in MGS2 I don't see myself as Raiden. I want to be SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!
Wasn't 'wanting to be Snake' more or less what Raiden was like in that game? :P
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Old 2013-01-18, 19:12   Link #374
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Wasn't 'wanting to be Snake' more or less what Raiden was like in that game? :P
Screams *Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake*

Well at least we don't have to see a disturbing gameplay like this anymore.

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Old 2013-01-18, 19:30   Link #375
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LOL the thumbnail XD Wish that was in the game.
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Old 2013-01-18, 20:08   Link #376
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Well at least we don't have to see a disturbing gameplay like this anymore.
That was one of the funniest things I've seen in gaming besides some Persona 4 scenes.

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Wasn't 'wanting to be Snake' more or less what Raiden was like in that game? :P
I think Raiden considered Snake a legend or hero and wanted to have such big determination in contrast to him who is ashamed of Jack the Ripper. Snake reacts pretty much like Kojima and says that he is just a soldier and that he can choose what to do about him. The Patriots really wanted him to become a replica of Snake during Solid 2 through Big Shell but after that they made him a cyborg so that he would be like Gray Fox.

I've no idea what was the Patriots' idea when kidnapping Raiden and turning him into a cyborg but the Metal Gear database says he was left to die by the Patriots and Big Mama/Eva saved him.
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Old 2013-01-18, 20:18   Link #377
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I've no idea what was the Patriots' idea when kidnapping Raiden and turning him into a cyborg but the Metal Gear database says he was left to die by the Patriots and Big Mama/Eva saved him.
I believe Patriots just tortured him by severing his body. I also don't know why they grafted cyborg body into him, though.... probably as an experiment for them / or act as a short-term "life support" for him (since all was left of him was the head and spine, minus his jaw) so they can continue to torture him.

Later, it was Dr. Madnar who made him into a proper cyborg. I believe it's to save his life too + Raiden's willingness to continue fighting (otherwise, he could just use a human cyborg body like his MGS4 ending)
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Old 2013-01-19, 02:54   Link #378
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It is also known to Raiden at that time Campbell and Rose had an "Affair" which Rose left Raiden aka Jack. This was done secretly to protect Raiden's family from the Patriots.
Poor Raiden had to endure such a fate. Heck even in MGS4 he was fighting w/out arms. Wonder if we will see that in MGR.
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Old 2013-01-19, 04:12   Link #379
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I'm hoping this game isn't cut scene heavy. Like Metal Gear Solid 4 was.
But because this is a spin-off and the gameplay looks really fun, we'll see.
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Old 2013-01-19, 07:14   Link #380
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Can anyone give me an opinion why rising isn't gettung as much flak as DmC? Just out of pure curiosity of what the two games did intheir development that makes their reception so wildly different from each other.
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