Coronavirus 2020-22

[ramlaen]

https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/...t-chinese-lab/

NEWLY RELEASED DOCUMENTS provide details of U.S.-funded research on several types of coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. The Intercept has obtained more than 900 pages of documents detailing the work of EcoHealth Alliance, a U.S.-based health organization that used federal money to fund bat coronavirus research at the Chinese laboratory. The trove of documents includes two previously unpublished grant proposals that were funded by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, as well as project updates relating to EcoHealth Alliance’s research, which has been scrutinized amid increased interest in the origins of the pandemic.

[Sugetsu]

Two great new videos by the amazing investigative journalist Kin Iversen, regarding the latest leak on the handling of this pandemic by the US government.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/-UlIz7tVG5o

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The research done on this second video regarding comparisons between AIDS and COVID, and the subsequent reaction by the cohosts is well worth a watch.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/ezKb_AFvU4g

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[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/...t-chinese-lab/

If you think having coronavirus research done at BSL3 instead of 4 is shocking well.....you'll be stunned what else is done at BSL3. And this is an international standard BTW

[MeoTwister5]

My high risk 92yo grandma and her two caregivers just tested positive. Everyone in the house is waiting for results in our swabs early this morning. Everyone is asymptomatic. If I end up positive I'll have to contract trace everyone exposed to me in the 2 hospitals I work in. That's close to 50 people.

Sigh.

[MeoTwister5]

Well it finally happened. I finally got COVID from probably one of my patients.

[Guardian Enzo]

Very sorry to hear that. You're vaxxed, are you not?

[MeoTwister5]

Yes but I'm 6 months out of the second dose and, of course, we don't have boosters shots available here for health care workers like me because it's all with western countries.

For whatever sins Tedros and the WHO have done, they're right that poor nations in the rest of the world need their shots, and HCWs in those countries need their boosters.

[Guardian Enzo]

Hopefully those antibodies are still kicking around in there, doing their job.

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

For whatever sins Tedros and the WHO have done, they're right that poor nations in the rest of the world need their shots, and HCWs in those countries need their boosters.

And to think than some do advocate for third shot in wealthy countries while such large part of the total population haven't got the second or even the first shot.

[MeoTwister5]

Originally Posted by ganbaru

And to think than some do advocate for third shot in wealthy countries while such large part of the total population haven't got the second or even the first shot.

Well you can't blame people for wanting extra protection, but they also don't realize that the extra degree it gives is far less than what it would do for an unvaccinated person, as well as wider vaccinations will reduce the likelihood of variants like Delta and Mu.

[ganbaru]

I don't blame member of the public to want as much protection as they can get (especially as the protection is said to be diminushing with time) even though than a wider vaccination could lead to less death and a reduction of the possibility to the emergence of other(s) variant(s).
What bother me much is than most of the voices calling for 3rd shot I did hear/read were advocate of the industry, not from the scientific community; I might be too cynical but it left me with more the impression of saleman wanting to sell more shots to countries than can afford it.

[barcode120x]

Just found out one of the patients I was taking care of last week ended up going through several cardiac arrests and is currently intubated and on an ECMO machine. He was a pretty positive fella when I had him for two nights. He even told me he regretted not getting the vax and told me that as soon as he gets outta of the hospital he was gonna tell all his family and friends to get vax'd. Seems though that may not happen any more, but hopefully his family understands COVID and the havoc it can do.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Well it finally happened. I finally got COVID from probably one of my patients.

Hopefully those Memory T Cells will kick in and this will be a two week vacations, don't forget to take everyday your vitamin D producing sunshine.

In my city, after three weeks with 50+ daily deaths due to covid19, last couple of days we were under fifty and hopefully numbers will start to go down in the weeks to come; that is, until Mu comes in winter, just in time for xmas :/ So it seems 2022 will be repeat of 2020 if said variant is immune to current vaccines, so big pharma will announce version 2.0 of the vaccines and we will see 1st world countries fight for them again. Someone please remind me of the reason why no new factories than can produce more of this state of the art vaccines has been built in the last twelve months.

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by mangamuscle

Someone please remind me of the reason why no new factories than can produce more of this state of the art vaccines has been built in the last twelve months.

The bestish argument I heard so far was than the issue was actually the quantity of what they need to produce the vaccine, not too sure if that's true. As the russian vaccine, it seem than they have issue with quality control.

[Sugetsu]

Well guys, it is official. The vaccines wear off, and the virus will keep on mutating for a long time to come.

The only real solution to this pandemic is proper treatment, but no organization in the world is promoting weight reduction and a healthy living lifestyle as ways to actively combat severe illness and death against this virus.
I only see patented vaccines and an artificially limited supply of them being promoted as the ONLY way to combat this virus.

Realizing how even in the mists of a worldwide crisis, the sociopaths that run the world will stop at nothing for personal gain is supremely disappointing and disheartening to me.

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by Sugetsu

Realizing how even in the mists of a worldwide crisis, the sociopaths that run the world will stop at nothing for personal gain is supremely disappointing and disheartening to me.

I will agree with the dishearthening but not the dissapointing; accumulating wealth and power is the only thing they are set to do and to expect them to do otherwise after the initial shock is maybe more than optimistic.

What I find dissapointing is all the ones on lower levels than don't really gain that much from the system but still help thoses ''sociopaths that run the world'' instead of doing what is supposed to be their job.

[Key Board]

Originally Posted by Sugetsu

Well guys, it is official. The vaccines wear off, and the virus will keep on mutating for a long time to come.

The only real solution to this pandemic is proper treatment, but no organization in the world is promoting weight reduction and a healthy living lifestyle as ways to actively combat severe illness and death against this virus.
I only see patented vaccines and an artificially limited supply of them being promoted as the ONLY way to combat this virus.

Realizing how even in the mists of a worldwide crisis, the sociopaths that run the world will stop at nothing for personal gain is supremely disappointing and disheartening to me.

Where's your data that warrants this reaction. Can you link a source?

No offense, but this sounds very new age / alternative medicine to me.

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[ganbaru]

New age/alternative medecine would be to promote healing cristals or essential oils as remedies. What he proposed sound more like (partial) preventive medecine. While being something than sould be more promoted more, its efficacity against a new pathogene (one than nobody have antibody against it) is discutable at best. There was a lot of ''very healthies'' patients than got Covid. Now than we have the vaccines (than cover partiallly against variant) preventive medecine is more useful.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Sugetsu

Well guys, it is official. The vaccines wear off, and the virus will keep on mutating for a long time to come.

The only real solution to this pandemic is proper treatment,

Which doesn't exist. Especially not for cheap.

but no organization in the world is promoting weight reduction and a healthy living lifestyle as ways to actively combat severe illness and death against this virus.

1. That's not a treatment.
2. Plenty of promotions for those even before the virus hit.

[MeoTwister5]

The only current and real effective way out of this mess is mass vaccination.

And until everyone gets on board the damn train, our job as healthcare workers remain hellish.