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golthin · 2009-10-02, 11:23

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Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzzy

They were probably losing ratings at the middle and decided to go on a different direction with the story. I still haven't watched the last 3 episodes, I felt the anime died already. I lost interest when the story lost its plot and no one really knows wth is going on with the anime anymore.

like many have said before, they had too many characters. Eclipse was forced into the story so they could have a lot of songs to market OST and they displaced all the other characters. It seemed to me like the show was more about Eclipse than about Basquash at the end.

Deathkillz · 2009-10-02, 11:37

Well it turned out to be a "meh" ending afterall and was within expectations. This really was a series gone bad from the initial "awesome" few episodes...a shame really :/
The plot was all over the place and in the end I can't do much but laugh at the stupidity of it...hah...

Well at least the music for the series was great and I am currently looping the "idol attack" album

Midonin · 2009-10-02, 11:48

Overall, it still turned out to be one of my favorites from these past two cours. I thought the concept of "giant robot basketball" not worth watching at first, but the show's cast of characters and the way it went through with its concept were overall handled pretty well. The music was excellent, and even if they ended up stealing the show, Eclipse were still fun to watch.

Spoiler for Though I will say the image of:

Kiyosuki · 2009-10-02, 20:18

That's it huh?

Spoiler for the whole series maybe. Not really, I left it vague but I'm playing it safe.:

miroku2192 · 2009-10-05, 16:54

I just watched episodes 22-24 in like 10 minutes. WTF is going on lawl. I lost interest in this anime a while back, but was curious as to how they were going to end it...and seriously? Wtf happened? This isn't the same basquash that i enjoyed at the beginning of the season. How'd they screw it up so hard? Plus, the last few episodes have sucked so much that i don't know what to say to this at all.....*sigh* Everything feels stupid or rushed or something, i can't find the right description for it. It just...sucks.

golthin · 2009-10-05, 18:52

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Originally Posted by miroku2192

I just watched episodes 22-24 in like 10 minutes. WTF is going on lawl. I lost interest in this anime a while back, but was curious as to how they were going to end it...and seriously? Wtf happened? This isn't the same basquash that i enjoyed at the beginning of the season. How'd they screw it up so hard? Plus, the last few episodes have sucked so much that i don't know what to say to this at all.....*sigh* Everything feels stupid or rushed or something, i can't find the right description for it. It just...sucks.

I see that even though there are a few people that are ok with the the way the show went, the consensus of the majority is disppointment of how a show with such a brilliant start went down hill. This is an example of how a show can go wrong when the main premise of the show is to be a big commercial for a shoe and promotion for the OST.

Kiavik · 2009-10-05, 19:13

I don't see why everyone is so negative about the last part of the show. I found it to be as zany and entertaining as the very first part set in Rolling Town. Except this time there was, you know, a PLOT, one that actually has been foreshadowed since like... more than half of the series. And perfectly in tune with the overall mood of the series, it was batshit insane, but original and awesome in a way. Maybe everyone is disappointed since they didnt expect THIS much crazyness. I don't know.

miroku2192 · 2009-10-05, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Kiavik

I don't see why everyone is so negative about the last part of the show. I found it to be as zany and entertaining as the very first part set in Rolling Town. Except this time there was, you know, a PLOT, one that actually has been foreshadowed since like... more than half of the series. And perfectly in tune with the overall mood of the series, it was batshit insane, but original and awesome in a way. Maybe everyone is disappointed since they didnt expect THIS much crazyness. I don't know.

There's a fine line between "good craziness" and "border-line retarded craziness"...the beginning of the series was "good craziness", something you can take. The most recent crap was just boring, predictable, stupid, rushed yet slow,...everything was just executed badly.

What i probably mean to say is, there was TONS of potential in this anime. However, the way they directed certain scenes just made the whole series go to shit. The latter portion (and don't even give the excuse of there being a "plot") of this series is so different from the beginning (again not because of plot) in terms of direction and how things are portrayed.

Though animation does not matter as much as the direction of the anime, the inconsistencies in the drawings reallllly ticked me off too.

I really want to see the ending now, not because it's good, but just so i can close this damn series...there have been far too many series this season that started out really good with loads of potential, only to have a fail ending during the last few episodes (lawl @ phantom)...except Basquash went to shit earlier than Phantom.

Kiavik · 2009-10-06, 02:09

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Originally Posted by miroku2192

There's a fine line between "good craziness" and "border-line retarded craziness"...the beginning of the series was "good craziness", something you can take. The most recent crap was just boring, predictable, stupid, rushed yet slow,...everything was just executed badly.

What i probably mean to say is, there was TONS of potential in this anime. However, the way they directed certain scenes just made the whole series go to shit. The latter portion (and don't even give the excuse of there being a "plot") of this series is so different from the beginning (again not because of plot) in terms of direction and how things are portrayed.

Though animation does not matter as much as the direction of the anime, the inconsistencies in the drawings reallllly ticked me off too.

I really want to see the ending now, not because it's good, but just so i can close this damn series...there have been far too many series this season that started out really good with loads of potential, only to have a fail ending during the last few episodes (lawl @ phantom)...except Basquash went to shit earlier than Phantom.

I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe you found stuff like episode 22 executed badly. I found the directing and animation of that episode really excellent. The showdown between Dan and Rouge was really perfectly made, IMHO. And no, it was not different from the beginning episodes in term of direction. It really paralleled the climax in episode 7, for example. But to each its own. You said you watched 3 episodes in 10 minutes, you must've skipped all the good parts

golthin · 2009-10-06, 02:40

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Originally Posted by Kiavik

I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe you found stuff like episode 22 executed badly. I found the directing and animation of that episode really excellent. The showdown between Dan and Rouge was really perfectly made, IMHO. And no, it was not different from the beginning episodes in term of direction. It really paralleled the climax in episode 7, for example. But to each its own. You said you watched 3 episodes in 10 minutes, you must've skipped all the good parts

one or two episodes well done, don't excuse the rest of the crap. If you look in a big pile of trash your are bound to find something good.

Now, don't get me wrong, I liked the show in the early episodes, I just think that they deviated too much from the early vision of the show and it was not for the better.

Zhaozhou · 2009-10-06, 13:29

There is one thing to specify: the sponsors of Basquash are Sankyo and Pony Canyon. The sponsors of an anime are visible on the raws after the op. Nike just allowed Basquash creators to use the design of their shoes, but since they aren't a sponsor they don't have any creative control over Basquash. Romain said on Catsuka people of Nike were actually positively impressed with the first episodes of Basquash. It is not Nike that ruined Basquash. In fact, the shoes were more noticeable in the first part of the anime than in the latter.

That said, while the first director, Itagaki, knew nothing of basket, at least he decided to put a lot of basket action in the his episodes. The new director, Sato, seems to have decided to do things differently in this department.

Kiyosuki · 2009-10-06, 15:54

The ending's not bad. A bit anime cliche but not bad. It pretty much cements that Eclipse stole the show (and not in the great way particularly) but it wasn't a bad conclusion. It's just the meandering, nothing direction of the rest of the series. An incredible beginning, then 18 or so episodes out of a 26-er where the show just wanders with minimal growth, then an okay ending. It was just too late. A decent ending riding on the shoulders of glorified filler episodes is almost irrelevant.

In retrospect it's not a bad series, it's just so disappointing because it's only a fraction of how good it looked like it was shaping up to be.

blewin · 2009-10-09, 04:24

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Originally Posted by Kiyosuki

The ending's not bad. A bit anime cliche but not bad. It pretty much cements that Eclipse stole the show (and not in the great way particularly) but it wasn't a bad conclusion.

haven't watched episode 26 yet but I agree how Eclipse seems to have taken the spotlight, overshadowing Dan and everything else. I still don't get how that spaceship came into being.... awakened by Eclipse's song? really, I thought the girls aren't the legend? That was just so random.

golthin · 2009-10-09, 06:10

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Originally Posted by blewin

haven't watched episode 26 yet but I agree how Eclipse seems to have taken the spotlight, overshadowing Dan and everything else. I still don't get how that spaceship came into being.... awakened by Eclipse's song? really, I thought the girls are the legend? That was just so random.

it seems that having Dan in the spotlight was not working for them , so they brought Eclipse.
It reminds me of how Sharyl in macross frontier took a different path (i think for the better) and made the show much better by changing the original vision of the character. I think this time, it backfired on them.

Ashlotte · 2009-10-09, 17:52

Well it was a good....half of an anime atleast, which is more then I can say for alot of things last season.

*joins DKZ in listening to the Albums again*

miroku2192 · 2009-10-09, 20:11

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Originally Posted by golthin

it seems that having Dan in the spotlight was not working for them , so they brought Eclipse.
It reminds me of how Sharyl in macross frontier took a different path (i think for the better) and made the show much better by changing the original vision of the character. I think this time, it backfired on them.

Ugh i hated that end though. No conclusion? No Sheryl x Alto?

golthin · 2009-10-09, 21:06

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Originally Posted by miroku2192

Ugh i hated that end though. No conclusion? No Sheryl x Alto?

that is a differrent issues that has nothing to do with my example here.

durack · 2009-10-09, 21:35

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Originally Posted by golthin

it seems that having Dan in the spotlight was not working for them , so they brought Eclipse.

I liked Dan - yeah, he is dumb, but he is realistically dumb (as opposed to stereotypically dumb shonen hero).

blewin · 2009-10-09, 23:09

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Originally Posted by durack

I liked Dan - yeah, he is dumb, but he is realistically dumb (as opposed to stereotypically dumb shonen hero).

hey, can you elaborate more? How's he realistically dumb?

ac195 · 2009-10-10, 06:57

Hahaha @ the last episode.

Yeah, it must have been the shoes.

Wanna save the world kids? Well then you better get your Nikes ready... they really had to whore themselves up for the last episode huh?

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Midonin Last Engage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida	Overall, it still turned out to be one of my favorites from these past two cours. I thought the concept of "giant robot basketball" not worth watching at first, but the show's cast of characters and the way it went through with its concept were overall handled pretty well. The music was excellent, and even if they ended up stealing the show, Eclipse were still fun to watch. Spoiler for Though I will say the image of: Navi appearing on the moon with a giant Nike box to save the day was both hilarious and yet oddly fitting.

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Kiyosuki Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	That's it huh? Spoiler for the whole series maybe. Not really, I left it vague but I'm playing it safe.: Man I'm so disappointed in this series. It had such a powerful start, and despite its wacky...almost stupid premise it was looking like it was going to be something unique and bold. The fact it had a pretty prolific french animator working with a japanese studio on this was interesting too. But it just kind of meandered for 80% of the series and went into episodic, status quo hell. And you guys say that the director was changed in the middle as well? You can kind of tell, it had shades of pulling a SEED Destiny where certain characters disappeared...like certain blue haired characters getting replaced right when their backstory started to get good, certain qualities of characters changed subtly(like you know, getting thin then getting fat again in the span of like...a week. Maybe he eats all the time because he's hanging on for dear life, since he has a tragic affliction that gives him a hyper-metabolism. I dunno, it would have been more interesting than what was going on in the series at the time.), and story threads were either hurredly finished or forgotten entirely. It's not that noticable though because the series was just so lost by then. It had its moments and seemed like it was gonna come back a few times, but it just wasted so much time, characters that deserved heavy development like Miyuki and Coco got some to none, and to add salt to the wound the J-pop idols really did take over the series. The worst thing to me is I just don't understand how a series with such a sharp focus in the beginning, anti-establishment themed story about a kid athlete who wants to reach for the top, could have that focus blur so quickly and become a glorified Nike commercial with moe girls. It's just such a crying shame, it had so much potential. It started out boldly different, and ended like anime-vanilla with nonsensical sprinkling

2009-10-09, 17:52	Link #1175
Ashlotte Clockwork Join Date: Oct 2006	Well it was a good....half of an anime atleast, which is more then I can say for alot of things last season. joins DKZ in listening to the Albums again __________________ No matter what enemy. No matter what ally. Mowing everything down with maximum destructive power. That is... "The White Devil of the Administration Bureau"

2009-10-05, 16:54	Link #1165
miroku2192 Let's Puppystyle! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Best Place In The WORLD Age: 32	I just watched episodes 22-24 in like 10 minutes. WTF is going on lawl. I lost interest in this anime a while back, but was curious as to how they were going to end it...and seriously? Wtf happened? This isn't the same basquash that i enjoyed at the beginning of the season. How'd they screw it up so hard? Plus, the last few episodes have sucked so much that i don't know what to say to this at all.....sigh Everything feels stupid or rushed or something, i can't find the right description for it. It just...sucks.

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Kiavik Member Join Date: Jan 2009	I don't see why everyone is so negative about the last part of the show. I found it to be as zany and entertaining as the very first part set in Rolling Town. Except this time there was, you know, a PLOT, one that actually has been foreshadowed since like... more than half of the series. And perfectly in tune with the overall mood of the series, it was batshit insane, but original and awesome in a way. Maybe everyone is disappointed since they didnt expect THIS much crazyness. I don't know.

2009-10-06, 13:29	Link #1171
Zhaozhou Member Join Date: Jul 2008	There is one thing to specify: the sponsors of Basquash are Sankyo and Pony Canyon. The sponsors of an anime are visible on the raws after the op. Nike just allowed Basquash creators to use the design of their shoes, but since they aren't a sponsor they don't have any creative control over Basquash. Romain said on Catsuka people of Nike were actually positively impressed with the first episodes of Basquash. It is not Nike that ruined Basquash. In fact, the shoes were more noticeable in the first part of the anime than in the latter. That said, while the first director, Itagaki, knew nothing of basket, at least he decided to put a lot of basket action in the his episodes. The new director, Sato, seems to have decided to do things differently in this department.

2009-10-06, 15:54	Link #1172
Kiyosuki Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	The ending's not bad. A bit anime cliche but not bad. It pretty much cements that Eclipse stole the show (and not in the great way particularly) but it wasn't a bad conclusion. It's just the meandering, nothing direction of the rest of the series. An incredible beginning, then 18 or so episodes out of a 26-er where the show just wanders with minimal growth, then an okay ending. It was just too late. A decent ending riding on the shoulders of glorified filler episodes is almost irrelevant. In retrospect it's not a bad series, it's just so disappointing because it's only a fraction of how good it looked like it was shaping up to be.

2009-10-10, 06:57	Link #1180
ac195 Koh nara dekiru!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: August 17th - 31st	Hahaha @ the last episode. Yeah, it must have been the shoes. Wanna save the world kids? Well then you better get your Nikes ready... they really had to whore themselves up for the last episode huh?