[Summer 2017] Nanoha The MOVIE 3rd

[4th Dimension]

There is showing different sides of the same character, and there is replacing the character with a different but similar one for the purposes of a joke. The first is fine, and is what happens in Vivid. But the second is the case in Vivid Life. Now we can either treat all of this as having happened in one continuity, and that the charcters are simply schizophrenic and change depending on what kind of "camera" is watching them or we can treat content that uses these altered (not those that simply show another side of their character) characters as taking part in a AU 0,5 universes off from the main one.

Anyway I'm unilaterally dropping this in future because I have abused this thread with this enough.

[NiwaDaisuke]

Originally Posted by 4th Dimension

There is showing different sides of the same character, and there is replacing the character with a different but similar one for the purposes of a joke.

That is the same process one level higher, it can be said its a cheap script to make easy jokes, exaggerating characters for humor and using facets more fit to comedy, the characters are the same but now with more than one dimension, their new traits shouldn't make you make fun of them accusing them of a serious disorder like schizophrenia, instead you should laugh with their humor and not think very seriously.

And have a happy new year everyone.

[4th Dimension]

Considering that movie will deal with Amitie and Kyrie from Gears of Destiny games and that many people might not have played them (because they don't know Japanese, don't own the game or PSP or donl't like this genre of games), I'm among them, it would be nice if there is some way to find out what ws the story behind Gears of Destiny and Amitie and Kyrie's involvement in it.

Well for your enjoyment I trawled the old GOD thread and found that one user there did a synopsis of every stage of the game. For a game there is quite a bit of story coming with it so without further ado he following is a synopsis of the Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's PSP game Gears of Destiny:

Sequence 1 - https://forums.animesuki.com/showthr...60#post3919060
Sequence 2&3 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1191
Sequence 4 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1211
Sequence 5 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1215
Sequence 6 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1288
Sequence 7 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1306
Sequence 8: Part 1 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1414
Sequence 8: Part 2 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1448
Sequence 9 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1450
Sequence 10 - http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1524
Sequence 11: Part 1 - https://forums.animesuki.com/showthr...32#post3938232
Sequence 11: Part 2 - https://forums.animesuki.com/showthr...29#post3939729
Sequence X (epilogue) - https://forums.animesuki.com/showthr...66#post3944666

Also on youtube the following sequences or parts of them have been subbed in English:
Sequence 1 - only the introductory part
Sequence 9 in it's entirety

Gears of Destiny subtitled version - an ongoing effort

Even what little is available in English, if the character don't change, should give you an idea of the new characters. Basically Amitie behaves as if she has been transplanted from Guren Lagan (everything is about fighting spirit) while her sister and probable antagonist is a smug edge lord.

In the game they mention that there are other Gears of less than human variety so that might be where the mecha/robot army is coming. The conflict in GOD largely stemmed from the fact that Kyrie wanted to get her hands on the crystal Examia that was part of the defense system of the Book of Darkness (there is more on that in the synopses) and Materials in the end played a big role on avoiding it's complete activation. In the movie it's possible that they'll keep the crystal as a point of contention between the protagonists and the antagonists and ditch all the rest of the lore about Unbreakable Dark and Materials.

[Stark700]

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[Nachtwandler]

I wonder if we'll have to wait for BDs 10-11 montshs as it was wioth previous movies.

[4th Dimension]

Okay, Kyrie and Amita, they are not uprising. The motherly figure might be since in GoD they weren't human, but she might not be their mother. But who is the younger girl with Kyrie? I don't think it's Yuri, she is a blonde.

Also Tron Amita

[Key Board]

I don' think Yuri and Materials exist in this timeline

[JINNSK]

Originally Posted by 4th Dimension

Okay, Kyrie and Amita, they are not uprising. The motherly figure might be since in GoD they weren't human, but she might not be their mother. But who is the younger girl with Kyrie? I don't think it's Yuri, she is a blonde.

Also Tron Amita

http://www.nanoha.com/character_iris.html
Iris(CV:Hikasa Youko).Kyrie's friend

[4th Dimension]

Thez shouldn't exist since Reinforce was sealed. So without the Darkness of the Book of Darkness rising again and making them in the image of the girs who defeated it, they don't exist.

@JINNSK I'm sure you meant "friend" given their chest ot chest scene in the PV.

[lyrical dark mage]

i can't wait for the movie it does seem interesting, Zafira will be back in his human form i hope chrono and Yuuno will also appear

[WarpObscura]

I don't believe it, Zafira actually got screentime!

[4th Dimension]

And in human form even...

[El Rue]

Despite its popularity, I am someone who has yet to see or get into any Nanoha stuff.

So my question to those fans who are deep into it already:
Are the movies a good/decent gate way & "shortcut" to get into the series as a whole? No major missable interesting plot or characterizations so far & stuff like that?

[4th Dimension]

Well Movie 1st is since it leaves out some of the early installation weirdness, but it also drops due to the time constraints some of the character building between the leads. So as an intro it probably is not bad, as long as you do see the first season at some point. Second season on the other hand was pretty tightly paced and is arguably the pinnacle of the show. It's movie therefore does not live up to the expectation IMO.
They never made the moves for any of the seasons after that, and this one is a thing of it's own.

So my recommendation would be go for the Movie 1st to give you a taste for Nanoha (only understand that there is more character stuff and plot in TV show) and then go for the A's TV season.

There is really no reason tu hurry since the things after StrikerS (and to some after A's) are not as good as the stuff that came before.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by El Rue

Despite its popularity, I am someone who has yet to see or get into any Nanoha stuff.

So my question to those fans who are deep into it already:
Are the movies a good/decent gate way & "shortcut" to get into the series as a whole? No major missable interesting plot or characterizations so far & stuff like that?

Start with the anime first, then try your hand at the movies. The first movie leaves a lot of Nanoha's characterization unexplained.

[Nachtwandler]

I personally think that Movie 1st is way better than the series. They cut most of unnecessary SoL parts but added so needed characterisation for Fate and Precia and it has better quality overall, so I personaly have similar opinion as 4th Dimension: watch the movie first and S1 later when you have time. I know a lot of people who watched S1, disliked it and dropped the franchise.

[lyrical dark mage]

I think you should probably watch the series first because while the movie is so much be it does get confusing if you haven't watched the anime itself, either you watch the anime first then the movie or you watch the first movie to get yourself into the series and watch the anime to understand more

[4th Dimension]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

I personally think that Movie 1st is way better than the series. They cut most of unnecessary SoL parts but added so needed characterisation for Fate and Precia and it has better quality overall, so I personaly have similar opinion as 4th Dimension: watch the movie first and S1 later when you have time. I know a lot of people who watched S1, disliked it and dropped the franchise.

I would just like to clarify that I don't think the movie is better. Movie 1st lacks kind of the twist that it's not a traditional magical girl show and lacks repeated interactions between the leads. But it also gets to the core of the thing a lot quicker, and it seemed OP wants something short so watcheing entire season is out. Also the movie should prime him to watch the great part in NON movie form (seriously don't watch the Movie 2nd as your initial exposure to the second season). Oh and since the movie is newer than the original series the action is that much better when it gets going.

[Archon_Wing]

Originally Posted by El Rue

Despite its popularity, I am someone who has yet to see or get into any Nanoha stuff.

So my question to those fans who are deep into it already:
Are the movies a good/decent gate way & "shortcut" to get into the series as a whole? No major missable interesting plot or characterizations so far & stuff like that?

That really depends on how much patience you have. If there was somehow a counterpart to me atm that never saw the series, I'd go with the first movie, and probaly suggest A's (TV) next. I think the first season is rather dated honestly and not really worth it unless you're into magical girl shows, but you may want to check it out if you end up liking the movie.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Stark700

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Can't believe I missed this PV through my ME:A romp

Somehow, this PV seems kinda lacking in comparison to the previews for the 1st and 2nd movies, though at least we know what to expect now.

Also, is that Nanoha's Fortress Mode from Force in action there?