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Yeah, that was in some the parts of the script that weren't translated yet. As far as I know, Hannyabal didn't use any defensive techniques.... he just stood there and took the rush head-on. The fact that he didn't use something like Tekkai is a testament to his strength right there..... Jet Gatling was what finished off Lucci (despite him using Tekkai), and before that he nearly got KO'ed by just one Gigant Pistol.
Actually, notice how the tougher opponents Luffy fought against in ID were able to take his attacks despite the fact that they didn't use Rokushiki. The ID staff's all-stars are definitely no joke, despite the the majority of them being taken out pretty quickly..... Edit: By the way, it looks like Hannyabal gave Luffy a pretty dramatic speech, as well. Something about how people will sleep better at night when all the big, bad criminals of the world are imprisoned, and that he won't let him move a single step forward. That actually reminds me a bit of that speech that T-Bone gave before being defeated by Zoro...... Oh, and it looks like Luffy just used Jet Gatling on Hannyabal after all. The bazooka thing was just referring to some bazooka troops who got sucked up in Blackbeard's black hole of something. Still, that doesn't change the fact that he withstood a Gear 2 assault. I really hope this guy gets his own ministory after this arc is over..... Last edited by marvelB; 2009-05-20 at 10:06. |
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2009-05-20, 11:52 | Link #23 |
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Pffft, most of us already knew Blackbeard and Shiryuu wouldn't scratch knuckles. Or Blackbeard casually dismissed Shiryuu making Shiryuu utterly useless but I doubt that.
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If you are going to use an or kind of statement to talk about possible scenarios, then why the need to make the first sentence look as if that is what happened, when you still have no clue as to what happened there. That falls to the category of deceiving people.
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IMO he should have just gotten that out of the way this chapter, for he forgets about it like he did with the Whitebeard vs Shanks fight. I'm really disappointed in Jinbei, going off what was translated. He didn't attack Blackbeard nor rage at him, If Blackbeard and Jinbei ever came face face, I always thought that would have been one of the triggers to get Jinbei raging like a seaking, for Blackbeard is the start of all this, and is an enemy towards the Whitebeard pirates, but I guess its Odas Lufyy obsession. Well at least croc is still some what boss after being threaten by that dame tranny. Guess I can only count on real big timer characters like Whitebeard and crew, Doflamingo, Shanks, Mihawk, Kuma, to get things rocking. Edit: Quote:
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2009-05-20, 16:26 | Link #26 |
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1 One piece chapter still measures over 5 Naruto chapters and 20 Bleach chapters in amount of content, excitment and story so I dont know what you are complaining excatly.
I wonder how did Blackbeard and Shiryuu meating went, also Hannibal showed up quite nice resolve believe Luffy being typical murdering pirate he was quite admirable in his resolve. I didnt quite expect to see Luffy and Blackbeard clash so early but its see battle will be inevabatle in this point when Luffy knows truth about Blackbeard (atleast partially). Iva is quite good looking as woman and I am quite anxious to see how he deals Sadi. Well these are just spoiler pictures and scripts so waiting to see full chapter. |
2009-05-20, 16:39 | Link #27 |
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By the way, there's one thing I'm a bit curious about: In the translations I've seen, Blackbeard says that Ace was "our" former commander instead of "my" commander. Did he really use that particular plural pronoun in the original script? If so, that would mean he's not the only one in his crew who was a former Whitebeard pirate. If so, who else left Newgate for Teach? I kinda doubt that Burgess and Auger were part of that crew, since they were both so quick to attack Ace at Banaro island (seemingly without prior knowledge of his powers). This leaves either Doc Q or Lafitte (while we know some of Lafitte's background, we still don't know what he did after leaving West Blue, so I believe it's possible that he briefly joined Whitebeard before joining with Teach). However, if the "our" is a translation error..... then just disregard this post.
Anyways, I doubt that Blackbeard will stick around, so him and the rest of his guys will probably just mosey on along to level 6 or whatever after their little chat with Luffy next chapter. I'm still crossing my fingers for at least the level 6 guys' silhouettes at that time. Also, the inevitable rematch between Luffy and Magellan will probably start next chapter, as well. Hopefully, this will be the battle where we start to see Luffy utilize Haki in his attacks..... |
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Ace is 2nd division commander and Blackbeard was not under his direct leadership. I dont think any other members of Blackbeard pirates has any history in Whitebeard crew, otherwise they would been assumed participant in 4th commanders murder and Ace/whitebeard would mentioned them. |
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and Please don't try to down play Naruto and Bleach to pump up Next week I mean One piece. Quote:
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2009-05-20, 17:30 | Link #30 |
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^Ah, nearly forgot about that. Well, that just leaves Doc Q and his horse, Stronger. They always struck me as being the most suspicious in the crew, anyhow (I'm still interested in their past, whether they were former Whitebeard pirates or not).....
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The line in Japanese is as follows: おれも驚いたぜェ、お前が我が隊長エースの弟だったとはな One possible translation: I was surprised as well - that you turned out to be the younger brother of commander Ace. But this leaves out the "waga" bit (in bold) which can mean both "my" and "our". I think the reason he used "waga" is because Ace wasn't the commander to only Blackbeard - Ace was the commander of many, so it would be grammatically wrong to imply otherwise, which is why he didn't say "my" instead. This distinction feels a bit stronger in Japanese to me, though I'm not certain about it. If he wanted to say "our" in the sense of his current group, he'd probably have used "ore-tachi" instead of "waga". Or putting it another way, it's "our" in the generic sense not the "of me and my friends'" sense. Quote:
Well, we'll see. (Still got to see the full chapter for this week first!)
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2009-05-20, 19:04 | Link #33 |
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None of Blackbeard's crewmates were former members on Whitebeard's crew. Not only that, but Blackbeard was Ace's only target in his search. Only he was the one who committed the murder of the 4th division commander, and if his crewmates were really former Whitebeard pirates that conspired this whole mess with him, they too would've been on Ace's hit list, but they weren't. Hence, it's not possible that they were on Whitebeard's crew before. Ace didn't even know any of them when he finally found Blackbeard.
@Prestige - Yes, Blackbeard was under the direct leadership of Ace. Ace mentioned that Blackbeard used to be a member of the Whitebeard Second Corps division and that he was his subordinate (Chapter 159 - Page 15).
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Lol. Swordsman has nothing on darkness lol. BB probably owned his ass. BB gonna get Haki owned by Luffy.
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2009-05-20, 19:16 | Link #35 |
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You're joking right? Luffy can't do anything to Blackbeard. He stands absolutely no chance against him right now. I'm 100% certain Luffy would lose miserably.
The fact is that Ace didn't even know who they were when he met them, so how could they have been on Whitebeard's crew before?
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2009-05-20, 19:38 | Link #36 |
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Thanks for clearing that up, kari-no-sugata. I just wanted to make sure, since all the translations I read said "our", as I noted before. I wasn't really all that certain about anyone aside from Blackbeard himself being a former Whitebeard crewmember, myself......
Heh, I wonder what poor ol' Buggy and Mr. 3 are up to? Since it looks like Magellan is on his way to Luffy's location, I suppose that they'll be looking for a way to clear Magellan's poison blockade. Seeing as the two of them put so much ingenuity in sneaking all the way back to level 2, I wonder if they'll be able to handle this new obstacle.....? |
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BTW, We'll see what your precious Luffy will choose! Hell or try and rescue Ace [He ain't gonna make it That's Whitebeards job]. Last edited by Phenomenal; 2009-05-20 at 23:56. |
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^The most likely outcome is Blackbeard simply leaving after maybe htting Luffy once. Whatever the case, neither Blackbeard nor Luffy have time, so I doubt any actually serious fighting will occur, at most only a brief scuffle before Blackbeard tosses Luffy aside, and then mocks Luffy before leaving...
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