2012-03-02, 02:09 | Link #261 |
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The problem is the current story arc isn't that interesting. The monthly releases don't help as the story has really slowed to a crawl, especially since the 'main' story was put on hold to develop the current arc. I wonder if Yagi himself is unsure how to continue the Claire/Priscilla story arc, and is just buying time trying to flesh out the next step in the story.
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2012-03-02, 03:39 | Link #262 |
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The problem is easy to find for me. The battle Histerya vs Miria is lengthening unnecessarily showing a claymore can fight with a abysal in an absurd way.
The fact that Miria can fight her and even overcome Histerya, (it seems that this will happen) nobody likes. That is the big issue of this arc. The only thing I really like is the history and Roxane Battle and Cassandra. I hope able to continue seeing more of this confrontation without having to interrupt Miria. |
2012-03-02, 05:36 | Link #263 | |
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Imo one of the causes is the fact that Yagi decided to have the story very frammented exactly when the MC was away. |
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2012-03-02, 10:38 | Link #264 |
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You know, wanting Clare back doesn't in any [logical] way mean the story is going be magically better or more interesting, though it'd probably make it more bearable (I for instance wouldn't complain that much if Teresa was somehow in the story right now).
It just seems like Yagi's capacity to surprise us has...declined. |
2012-03-02, 10:52 | Link #265 |
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Well, to be honest I would argue that the majority of surprises (aside from deaths maybe) in this series have resulted from two characters, Claire and Priscilla. Miria, Deneve, and Helen have been rather straight forward as characters, but Claire and Priscilla are rather chaotic.
Anyways, bring the Clairebear and Pristroll back. |
2012-03-02, 11:23 | Link #266 | ||
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2012-03-02, 11:34 | Link #267 | |
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Histerya without awakened was equal or better to Miria. Now that she has awakened, ¿how she can not kill easily Miria? As much as you defend it, that makes no sense. Would have been different if Miria was much better than Histerya claymore, but that was not the case at all. |
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2012-03-02, 12:01 | Link #269 | |
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Like it or not, there are a lot of things going on in Claymore,but at the end of the day Claymore is basically Claire's story,so it's not a big surprise that taken away the focus on her,this arc feels "less personal" and it's difficult for the other characters to create the same tension as before,not because they are bad characters,but because of the way this manga is built. And honestly,the whole climax for this arc is severely damaged by the fact that in the other situation with Prissy and Claire the climax is 100 times stronger. Stupid example: It's like a group of people that love football are watching at the TV an objectively important football match.....but they also know that at the same in another channel there could be the final of the world championship but for some reason they can't watch it. No wonder the "objectively important" football match that they are watching feels a lot less interesting in that situation. And YES,being able to change channel and look at the final would be LOGICALLY a lot more interesting,lol. |
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2012-03-02, 12:04 | Link #270 | |
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2012-03-02, 12:22 | Link #271 | |
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Clare's example I simply argument the inner potential, (as Priscilla), though it may seem very simple, that is my honest opinion. |
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2012-03-02, 14:25 | Link #273 |
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I would say this arc needs to end quickly as of now. While Yagi is trying to make our characters win with trickery and teamwork rather than powerlevels against, I do not think he has made it all that engaging or at least it is not working.
Well, this is dead. Might as well give up on subforum. If you still want to actively talk about Claymore and stick with some of regulars there is still a community site on Manga Helpers. edit: Since this thread has already been heavily edited of posts, I'll repeat, if you are still looking for raw/translation alerts and/or other claymore related discussion, Manga Helpers still has monthly chapter threads on their forum. That means updates on chapters if your interested. Last edited by Nixl; 2012-03-03 at 00:25. |
2012-03-02, 15:00 | Link #275 |
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See Kairin's posting...
I just can't wait to see what Roxanne is saying this chapter... I'm assuming Cassandra talks about shit some more though and Deneve explains what the warriors are about to do... I just wish Yagi could have had someone else be his mouth piece, like I don't know Anastasia since it is her hair about to be used.
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2012-03-02, 15:41 | Link #277 |
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It just also goes to confirm my theory that a large number of poeple are losing interest in the current Claymore Arc.
Between the uuuultra slow arc (started in chapter 106 - so 18 chapters so far, and with what I'm reading it 'll take another 2 or 3 chapters to wrap it up. For reference the entire Pieta arc was 12 chapters), and the absence of both Clare and Priscilla, not only are the rankings down in Japan but the forums slow here. The tankobons might still sell, but the growing disinterest in the monthly story tells me one thing: People are entering "collection" mode. They are more interested to finish their collection than actually following the manga. Wake up Yagi! I just hope that it won't get so bad that the publisher will say: "Well, it's been fun. You now have 6 chapters to wrap it up." (ending at volume 23). P.S for Djorel: We must not have been reading the same manga, because I do not remember Galatera "wiping the floor " with Dauf. Quite the contrary in fact, once her little trick was found out. |
2012-03-02, 15:48 | Link #278 |
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Well, for the record I have no intention of quitting this thread. I do already have another account on two other threads that talk about Claymore and might end up redistributing where I talk a bit based on who moves where, but I like it here and there is always a billion to one shot we might get a season 2 so the thread can return (tries to fool himself it can still happen ).
I don't blame the mods, nor anyone else. Even in light of recent events... I've been fearing this for sometime after the thread post counted started dying once this most recent arc started (around ch 108/9). I just didn't say much since about it since I didn't want it to happen. Other threads where hit too... but I'm not going to argue well why didn't this one get hit vs mine or why that one too... it's too late whats done is done. I still post on narutoforums's Claymore thread (not even subforum) all the time and am fine with it... I'm just glad we've got a separate image thread and one continuous thread for posting anything manga related... the other still open threads are just bonuses. Hopefully people will accept this in time... Anyways, Xellos-_^ your comment made me think of the expression "It just takes one bad apple ruins it for everyone" and this just popped in my head. So now I had to post it. Spoiler for pics:
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About why Duff wasn't unable to kill Claire easily, one of the reason is because Claire's ability to read youki so she could predict Duff's attack, and the other one is because Duff was stuck in the tunnel thus gave Claire the advantage. Well, not for long but she was saved by Galatea later. And he one-shot said above average awakened being when the said above average was off guard. Quote:
Btw, Histerya sure was number one at her time, but Miria's no 6 was before the time skip so I think her rank should be higher up now. And Claire, yeah I kinda agree with you. Perhaps because of her potential and because she has Theresa inside of her, since from what the organization said we know that Theresa was extraordinary.
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